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stevarius
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1394 Posts
November 10 2011 02:31 GMT
#2741
On November 10 2011 11:24 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
I expect Rick Perry to announce his dropping out of the running. The man is a train wreck.


How the hell was he even elected as a Governor? That's my question.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
November 10 2011 02:32 GMT
#2742
Is Rick Perry on drugs... what the hell is he trying to say.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
jeeeeohn
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States1343 Posts
November 10 2011 02:36 GMT
#2743
Rick Perry basically filibustering through that question, holy shit.

Newt Gingrich and Ron Paul fighting!

But seriously, I'm taking notes on this for a paper, and I can't believe how many times I've written their answers then realized they had nothing to do with the question. But I do like Newt and Ron. ^.^
If you can't jam with the best, then you have to slam with the rest.
aksfjh
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4853 Posts
November 10 2011 02:36 GMT
#2744
On November 10 2011 11:31 stevarius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2011 11:24 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
I expect Rick Perry to announce his dropping out of the running. The man is a train wreck.


How the hell was he even elected as a Governor? That's my question.

I didn't vote for him. Though, to be fair, Governors in Texas have very little power. The Lieutenant Governor is actually widely regarded to have more of an impact in Texas affairs than the Governor.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
November 10 2011 02:44 GMT
#2745
Sometimes I think Bachmann just talks in hopes something semi intelligent comes out.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
November 10 2011 02:46 GMT
#2746
This debate is yet another hilarious example of a bunch of liberals moderating a republican debate. Maria Bartiromo in particular has been absolutely atrocious.
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
November 10 2011 02:48 GMT
#2747
And this question about "restoring faith in public markets" is sheer hogwash. Markets are speculative. You can't guarantee investment results.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
November 10 2011 02:51 GMT
#2748
Capitalism... no bailouts. Thus Crony Capitalism.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
wswordsmen
Profile Joined October 2007
United States987 Posts
November 10 2011 02:51 GMT
#2749
On November 10 2011 11:36 jeeeeohn wrote:
Rick Perry basically filibustering through that question, holy shit.

Newt Gingrich and Ron Paul fighting!

But seriously, I'm taking notes on this for a paper, and I can't believe how many times I've written their answers then realized they had nothing to do with the question. But I do like Newt and Ron. ^.^

I thought it was common knowledge that questioning politicians went something like this:

Questioner: Asks question.
Politician: Well that is a very good question, [insert generic dodge], [insert whatever the **** the politician actually wants to say, that more often than not, is completely irrelevant to the question.]
jeeeeohn
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States1343 Posts
November 10 2011 02:51 GMT
#2750
One of my notes:

Herman Cain - How to restore faith in markets for little guy? By restoring faith in business; volatility is being driven by uncertainty; grow the economy; almost mentions 9/9/9. Have to provide certainty--avoiding question.

Seriously, he answered every question with 9/9/9, ffs.
If you can't jam with the best, then you have to slam with the rest.
Pillage
Profile Joined July 2011
United States804 Posts
November 10 2011 02:52 GMT
#2751
Happy Birthday CCSB!

@xDaunt : I've been hella busy for the past few weeks and haven't been following this at all. Who seems to be the GOP frontrunner now? You can answer this after the debate of course.
"Power has no limits." -Tiberius
Signet
Profile Joined March 2007
United States1718 Posts
November 10 2011 03:01 GMT
#2752
Cain has been the front runner for several weeks. Romney still stuck in second. Gingrich is climbing the polls.

Intrade still favors Romney, and his price increased while Cain's fell due to a) the harassment allegations b) him not really helping himself with the pressers on that. For whatever you think those markets are worth.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
November 10 2011 03:02 GMT
#2753
Already happening. Perry's debate is being compared to Ford, Stockdale etc.

He's through.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-10 03:07:20
November 10 2011 03:03 GMT
#2754
My thoughts:

Cain: "The 999 plan is the solution to everything" strategy is getting a little stale. Cain's going to need a develop a little more depth. I did like the Princess Nancy remark -- especially because it was off-color and grossly inappropriate given the current allegations against him. The guy has balls.

Romney: Another technically superb debate performance. No mistakes, and a few exemplary answers -- especially when he dismantled the loaded question about Romney's position on the auto industry bailout.

Gingrich: Gingrich was masterful tonight. I really enjoyed watching him tear apart the stupid moderators. If he keeps having performances like this one, he's going to continue to draw more support.

Paul: Very nice debate performance. Paul does well on these economic issues.

Perry: wtf? You can't even name the three federal agencies that you want to eliminate?

Huntsman: Huntsman had a pulse tonight! He came out looking very good during the first 30 mins. He looked focused and polished. However, he unraveled as the debate rolled along and lapsed into vintage Huntsman form. Apparently there were some topics that he didn't prep very well for.

Bachmann: Yawn.

Santorum: At least once in every debate, this guy throws out an answer that goes like this: "Why is no one supporting me? I have had all of these great ideas since 1992!" I think the answer is that people get that Santorum is kind of an asshole. However, he apparently took his medicine before this debate and didn't go after anyone like he typically does.


The moderators: This was easily the worst moderated debate so far. The questions were rambling and outright hostile. And what the fuck was with Kramer suggesting that corporate profits and job creation are mutually exclusive? He, of all people up there, should know better. This is CNBC, FFS. As for Bartiromo ... all that I am going to say is that she needs to be put out to pasture. That said, I laughed when it looked like she was going to cry after the audience booed her for bringing up the sexual harassment issue. What a cunt.
Falling
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada11398 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-10 03:08:12
November 10 2011 03:05 GMT
#2755
On November 10 2011 11:51 wswordsmen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2011 11:36 jeeeeohn wrote:
Rick Perry basically filibustering through that question, holy shit.

Newt Gingrich and Ron Paul fighting!

But seriously, I'm taking notes on this for a paper, and I can't believe how many times I've written their answers then realized they had nothing to do with the question. But I do like Newt and Ron. ^.^

I thought it was common knowledge that questioning politicians went something like this:

Questioner: Asks question.
Politician: Well that is a very good question, [insert generic dodge], [insert whatever the **** the politician actually wants to say, that more often than not, is completely irrelevant to the question.]


Well, I think these last set of debates have been particularly bad. I think Perry outright said in the CNN debate, when Cooper tried to get an on topic answer "No, you get to ask the question and I'll answer it however I want." Politicians are pretty good at dodging questions but these guys aren't even trying.

I played our last Canadian election debate immediately after a live primary debate and the contrast was stark. Oh they dodged questions alright, but they at least pretended and sometimes more then pretended.
Moderator"In Trump We Trust," says the Golden Goat of Mars Lago. Have faith and believe! Trump moves in mysterious ways. Like the wind he blows where he pleases...
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
November 10 2011 03:06 GMT
#2756
On November 10 2011 11:52 Pillage wrote:
Happy Birthday CCSB!

@xDaunt : I've been hella busy for the past few weeks and haven't been following this at all. Who seems to be the GOP frontrunner now? You can answer this after the debate of course.


Honestly, I think it's up in the air. Romney hasn't moved an inch for 9 months. Cain is hanging in there despite the sexual harassment allegations. Interestingly, it looks like Gingrich might be getting ready to take off in the polls. I expect a significant bump in his numbers after tonight.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
November 10 2011 03:10 GMT
#2757
Ray Sullivan is stacking the sand bags as best as he can.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Falling
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada11398 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-10 03:11:30
November 10 2011 03:10 GMT
#2758
Gingrich over Romney doesn't make sense to me. Isn't the main problem with Romney is that he is the establishment guy? How much more establishment can you get then Gingrich? (Except maybe Gingerich doesn't have the too-slick-for-his-own-good feel.)
Moderator"In Trump We Trust," says the Golden Goat of Mars Lago. Have faith and believe! Trump moves in mysterious ways. Like the wind he blows where he pleases...
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
November 10 2011 03:14 GMT
#2759
On November 10 2011 12:10 Falling wrote:
Gingrich over Romney doesn't make sense to me. Isn't the main problem with Romney is that he is the establishment guy? How much more establishment can you get then Gingrich? (Except maybe Gingerich doesn't have the too-slick-for-his-own-good feel.)


They're both establishment republicans. The difference is that Gingrich has more conservative conviction than Romney does.
Wegandi
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2455 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-10 03:33:16
November 10 2011 03:29 GMT
#2760
On November 10 2011 12:14 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2011 12:10 Falling wrote:
Gingrich over Romney doesn't make sense to me. Isn't the main problem with Romney is that he is the establishment guy? How much more establishment can you get then Gingrich? (Except maybe Gingerich doesn't have the too-slick-for-his-own-good feel.)


They're both establishment republicans. The difference is that Gingrich has more conservative conviction than Romney does.


Really?



Gingrich has no conservative conviction. Furthermore, it was in a few debates ago he even admitted freely that he was for an individual mandate (and has said it is our duty to pay for Nationalized healthcare), and he has appeared numerous times with Nancy Pelosi in support of carbon taxes and other schemes. I could go on and on down the list. The man is a complete and total fraud.
Thank you bureaucrats for all your hard work, your commitment to public service and public good is essential to the lives of so many. Also, for Pete's sake can we please get some gun control already, no need for hand guns and assault rifles for the public
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