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MajorityofOne
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada2506 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-08 06:49:26
April 08 2011 06:49 GMT
#1121
On April 08 2011 15:47 Turo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2011 15:45 ISighZ wrote:
Wow.. what the? I can't believed the poll..
It's 288..It's basic math..
I can understand the poll of the second math question because it can really go both ways depends on how you view it. There's better ways of writing that math. As for the first math problem Seriously!?!?!? I think there should be a poll with US resident, voted 288/US resident voted 2 and Not US resident, voted 288/Not US resident, voted 2. From the couple page I glance at, the people say 2 are from another country.


I wish I had a report button for people like you. TL is an international site, and you're a jerk.


....yeah, the insinuation here is not particularly flattering. Not sure if it's banworthy, but I agree. He's a jerk.
Runaground
Profile Joined February 2010
Moldova36 Posts
April 08 2011 06:49 GMT
#1122
48÷2(9+3) = 48÷ 2 * 12 = 288.
That's it.

For those, who think it's 2:
Then it should've been:
48÷2÷(9+3) = 24 ÷ 12 = 2. But we have (*) not (÷) in front of brackets.
udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
April 08 2011 06:49 GMT
#1123
I wonder how the voting distribution would look like if OP added an additional poll for whether the person voting has ever used spreadsheet software regularly or not.
E-Sports is competitive video gaming with a spectator fan base. Do not take the word "Sports" literally.
Robstickle
Profile Joined April 2010
Great Britain406 Posts
April 08 2011 06:49 GMT
#1124
On April 08 2011 15:47 BluePanther wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2011 15:45 Robstickle wrote:
Out of curiosity.

How would most people here interpret 3^3^3?

Is it 3^27 or 27^3?


27^3


Not that there's any difference...


Not that there's any difference?

27^3=19683
3^27>7trillion

Cutlery
Profile Joined December 2010
Norway565 Posts
April 08 2011 06:49 GMT
#1125
On April 08 2011 15:46 HULKAMANIA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2011 15:44 Cutlery wrote:
On April 08 2011 15:41 HULKAMANIA wrote:
The way I see it there are 2 ways of viewing this thread:

1) The answer to this question is simple. There are intelligent people on one side of the debate and morons on the other. Anyone who does not get the same answer that you did obviously struggles with middle-school math or can't read text on a screen or is missing some key portion of his or her brain or is in some other way a highly deficient human being and an embarrassment to the rest of the species.

or

2) The answer to this question is not so simple. There are rational, intelligent, and well-educated individuals who have come down on either side of the debate or who have come down on no side at all—instead suggesting that there is an certain ambiguity in the way that the notation is written. Someone who did not get the same answer that you did might have had a perfectly reasonable thought process behind his or her choice.

...
...
...

Now I admit it. I admit it: the second option is nowhere near as fun as the first option because it doesn't allow you to give yourself a big pat on the algebraic back and denigrate the mental capacities of everyone who disagrees with you.

Nevertheless, I think it's probably the more compelling choice.


I view the thread as how statistics do complete turn arounds based on small details and how people argue that they're right either way while others are in the wrong (Y). It's fascinating

You lost me there. Is that like a math and/or programming joke? Because to be honest I'm more on the liberal arts side of campus.




this is a poll, not a math quiz. the trick lies in the division sign which was carefully changed halfway through the poll
Turo
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada333 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-08 06:50:27
April 08 2011 06:50 GMT
#1126
On April 08 2011 15:47 BluePanther wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2011 15:45 Robstickle wrote:
Out of curiosity.

How would most people here interpret 3^3^3?

Is it 3^27 or 27^3?


27^3


Not that there's any difference...


3^27 = 7.62559748 × 10^12 -> a HUGE number.

27^3 = 19 683

There is a difference.
BluePanther
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2776 Posts
April 08 2011 06:50 GMT
#1127
On April 08 2011 15:49 chonkyfire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2011 15:47 BluePanther wrote:
On April 08 2011 15:46 chonkyfire wrote:
On April 08 2011 15:43 BluePanther wrote:
It's both, depending on the notation standard you are using.

Basic algebra rules will give 288.

Basic computer languages will give 2.

Was that clear enough?



wouldn't the correct way to express it in algebra be

48/2(9+3)=

48/2(12)=

48/24=2

???


no, it's strict order of operations, and therefore 288.


yeah strict order

2(12) comes before 48/2 in 48/2(12)

P for... parenthesis


i'm pretty sure parenthesis refers to whats INSIDE parenthesis.
Andymoo
Profile Joined March 2011
United States110 Posts
April 08 2011 06:50 GMT
#1128
On April 08 2011 15:26 Ruyguy wrote:
I think we can all agree that typing math formulas on a keyboard is stupid.


No. It just proves how over-using parenthesis is never a bad thing.
BluePanther
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2776 Posts
April 08 2011 06:50 GMT
#1129
On April 08 2011 15:49 Robstickle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2011 15:47 BluePanther wrote:
On April 08 2011 15:45 Robstickle wrote:
Out of curiosity.

How would most people here interpret 3^3^3?

Is it 3^27 or 27^3?


27^3


Not that there's any difference...


Not that there's any difference?

27^3=19683
3^27>7trillion



may bad, but i'm blaming that one on the windows calculator.
HULKAMANIA
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States1219 Posts
April 08 2011 06:50 GMT
#1130
On April 08 2011 15:49 Cutlery wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2011 15:46 HULKAMANIA wrote:
On April 08 2011 15:44 Cutlery wrote:
On April 08 2011 15:41 HULKAMANIA wrote:
The way I see it there are 2 ways of viewing this thread:

1) The answer to this question is simple. There are intelligent people on one side of the debate and morons on the other. Anyone who does not get the same answer that you did obviously struggles with middle-school math or can't read text on a screen or is missing some key portion of his or her brain or is in some other way a highly deficient human being and an embarrassment to the rest of the species.

or

2) The answer to this question is not so simple. There are rational, intelligent, and well-educated individuals who have come down on either side of the debate or who have come down on no side at all—instead suggesting that there is an certain ambiguity in the way that the notation is written. Someone who did not get the same answer that you did might have had a perfectly reasonable thought process behind his or her choice.

...
...
...

Now I admit it. I admit it: the second option is nowhere near as fun as the first option because it doesn't allow you to give yourself a big pat on the algebraic back and denigrate the mental capacities of everyone who disagrees with you.

Nevertheless, I think it's probably the more compelling choice.


I view the thread as how statistics do complete turn arounds based on small details and how people argue that they're right either way while others are in the wrong (Y). It's fascinating

You lost me there. Is that like a math and/or programming joke? Because to be honest I'm more on the liberal arts side of campus.




this is a poll, not a math quiz. the trick lies in the division sign which was carefully changed halfway through the poll


Oooh! Wait a second they flipped the script on everyone?
If it were not so, I would have told you.
chonkyfire
Profile Joined December 2010
United States451 Posts
April 08 2011 06:51 GMT
#1131
On April 08 2011 15:50 BluePanther wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2011 15:49 chonkyfire wrote:
On April 08 2011 15:47 BluePanther wrote:
On April 08 2011 15:46 chonkyfire wrote:
On April 08 2011 15:43 BluePanther wrote:
It's both, depending on the notation standard you are using.

Basic algebra rules will give 288.

Basic computer languages will give 2.

Was that clear enough?



wouldn't the correct way to express it in algebra be

48/2(9+3)=

48/2(12)=

48/24=2

???


no, it's strict order of operations, and therefore 288.


yeah strict order

2(12) comes before 48/2 in 48/2(12)

P for... parenthesis


i'm pretty sure parenthesis refers to whats INSIDE parenthesis.



I really don't know anymore.

if 2(9+3)=24 then 2 is apart of the parenthesis.

If you do 18 + 6 = 24
Just when I thought that I saw I ghost, I realized that it was the endo smoke
BluePanther
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2776 Posts
April 08 2011 06:51 GMT
#1132
On April 08 2011 15:50 BluePanther wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2011 15:49 Robstickle wrote:
On April 08 2011 15:47 BluePanther wrote:
On April 08 2011 15:45 Robstickle wrote:
Out of curiosity.

How would most people here interpret 3^3^3?

Is it 3^27 or 27^3?


27^3


Not that there's any difference...


Not that there's any difference?

27^3=19683
3^27>7trillion



may bad, but i'm blaming that one on the windows calculator.


i'm also slightly intoxicated.
RandomAccount139135
Profile Joined January 2011
40 Posts
April 08 2011 06:51 GMT
#1133
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VIB
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Brazil3567 Posts
April 08 2011 06:52 GMT
#1134
On April 08 2011 15:50 Andymoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2011 15:26 Ruyguy wrote:
I think we can all agree that typing math formulas on a keyboard is stupid.


No. It just proves how over-using parenthesis is never a bad thing.
Yes, if you're typing formulas, you're probably programming. And it's an old taught good practice standard in any programming environment to simply abuse parenthesis to make it perfectly clear what you're trying to do.
Great people talk about ideas. Average people talk about things. Small people talk about other people.
BluePanther
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2776 Posts
April 08 2011 06:53 GMT
#1135
On April 08 2011 15:51 chonkyfire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2011 15:50 BluePanther wrote:
On April 08 2011 15:49 chonkyfire wrote:
On April 08 2011 15:47 BluePanther wrote:
On April 08 2011 15:46 chonkyfire wrote:
On April 08 2011 15:43 BluePanther wrote:
It's both, depending on the notation standard you are using.

Basic algebra rules will give 288.

Basic computer languages will give 2.

Was that clear enough?



wouldn't the correct way to express it in algebra be

48/2(9+3)=

48/2(12)=

48/24=2

???


no, it's strict order of operations, and therefore 288.


yeah strict order

2(12) comes before 48/2 in 48/2(12)

P for... parenthesis


i'm pretty sure parenthesis refers to whats INSIDE parenthesis.



I really don't know anymore.

if 2(9+3)=24 then 2 is apart of the parenthesis.

If you do 18 + 6 = 24


2(9+3) is def 24. 9+3 =12, then 2(12) which is 24.
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
April 08 2011 06:53 GMT
#1136
Woot I learned maths on TL, thanks <3

I totally wanted it to be 48/(2(2+3))

Cus then it'd give 2
In the woods, there lurks..
mcc
Profile Joined October 2010
Czech Republic4646 Posts
April 08 2011 06:54 GMT
#1137
On April 08 2011 15:47 BluePanther wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2011 15:45 Robstickle wrote:
Out of curiosity.

How would most people here interpret 3^3^3?

Is it 3^27 or 27^3?


27^3


Not that there's any difference...

?? 3^27 >>>>>>> 27^3
Cutlery
Profile Joined December 2010
Norway565 Posts
April 08 2011 06:54 GMT
#1138
On April 08 2011 15:50 HULKAMANIA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2011 15:49 Cutlery wrote:
On April 08 2011 15:46 HULKAMANIA wrote:
On April 08 2011 15:44 Cutlery wrote:
On April 08 2011 15:41 HULKAMANIA wrote:
The way I see it there are 2 ways of viewing this thread:

1) The answer to this question is simple. There are intelligent people on one side of the debate and morons on the other. Anyone who does not get the same answer that you did obviously struggles with middle-school math or can't read text on a screen or is missing some key portion of his or her brain or is in some other way a highly deficient human being and an embarrassment to the rest of the species.

or

2) The answer to this question is not so simple. There are rational, intelligent, and well-educated individuals who have come down on either side of the debate or who have come down on no side at all—instead suggesting that there is an certain ambiguity in the way that the notation is written. Someone who did not get the same answer that you did might have had a perfectly reasonable thought process behind his or her choice.

...
...
...

Now I admit it. I admit it: the second option is nowhere near as fun as the first option because it doesn't allow you to give yourself a big pat on the algebraic back and denigrate the mental capacities of everyone who disagrees with you.

Nevertheless, I think it's probably the more compelling choice.


I view the thread as how statistics do complete turn arounds based on small details and how people argue that they're right either way while others are in the wrong (Y). It's fascinating

You lost me there. Is that like a math and/or programming joke? Because to be honest I'm more on the liberal arts side of campus.




this is a poll, not a math quiz. the trick lies in the division sign which was carefully changed halfway through the poll


Oooh! Wait a second they flipped the script on everyone?


yyyy, when ÷ is used, a smaller majority gets 288, when / is used a larger majority gets 2 for the answer.

Annoying
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada34 Posts
April 08 2011 06:55 GMT
#1139
http://www.purplemath.com/modules/orderops2.htm

check example 5 and it's explanation!

thread?
RandomAccount139135
Profile Joined January 2011
40 Posts
April 08 2011 06:55 GMT
#1140
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