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dyonehara
Profile Joined June 2010
United States69 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-16 20:19:18
March 04 2011 22:41 GMT
#1
I've been feeling a bit guilty lately as I've been using TL for quite a while but never contributed anything to the community as far as posts or content, so I thought I might share some work I've created on my spare time. I did a search and noticed most fanart postings were either blogs or in General, so if this isn't the place to post this type of content I apologize.

Can I buy one from you?
No. I apologize for not being able to supply the community with my fan art but it would be a breach of TL forum policy as well as infringe upon Blizzards intellectual property rights. If that changes in the future I will post up here.

Please refrain from PMing me about purchasing one. I'd love to oblige your offers but I simply can't. My hands are tied.

DXF/DWG files to make your own!

www.yospeed.com/upload/starcraft-2-logos-in-cad-dwg-format.dwg

www.yospeed.com/upload/starcraft-2-logos-in-cad-dwg-format.dxf

About the piece(s):
The logo is machined from a solid piece of 6061-T651 Billet Aluminum using a Bridgeport CNC machine. The surface is brushed to give it a semi-reflective finish, and the edges are all left as a machined finish give it a mirror look. It runs about 9 inches from head to tail and I tapped two holes in the back, so could mount it onto something. I haven't really figured out what to mount it to yet.

About the creator:
I'm a college student, like 99% of you out there, but my family operates a small machine shop, so on my spare time I make parts and other pieces of interest. I've always been a huge fan of Starcraft since it's inception over a decade ago, but I've really grown attached to SC2 as a whole. A month or so ago I really wanted to create something that I could send in to one of my favorite casters but wasn't sure how to go about it. I ended up creating this piece and I want to make one more for him.

I was curious if anyone knew what the legal implications were of doing so. This would be a gift, and I don't plan on making any more after these two, but I realize that Blizzard aggressively pursues anyone who creates content based on any of their copyright material. A long as it's not creating any legal complications, I might end up doing a Terran and Protoss logo later to show off here as well.

I look forward to the feedback of TL's community, and thank you all for viewing!

Where can I find that cool TL wallpaper?

Available here in 4:3 and 16 aspect ratio:
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=182413

Update 11/16/2011: Major League Gaming National Championship Trophies

These were a fun project to work on. You can read the full write up MLG did here: MLG Blog Post

TL;DR - They're machined from 6061-T651 billet aluminum, are composed of over 20 individually machined and hand finished pieces and weight in at over 12 pounds each.

Here are some photos of the MLG National Championship trophies during the build process:

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Update 10/28/2011: Team Evil Geniuses Logo
(I'm hoping I can get this signed by all the team members the next time they visit California)

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Update 8/1/2011: Grand Masters Banner - Autographed!

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Added some new photos [4/3/2011]:

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More Terran photos coming soon.

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Enderbantoo
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States465 Posts
March 04 2011 22:44 GMT
#2
This is sweet. How did you find time to do this is college? im impressed.
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Oriatis
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Austria57 Posts
March 04 2011 22:44 GMT
#3
wow! that really looks awesome! you did a great job there!
Xeteh
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States589 Posts
March 04 2011 22:44 GMT
#4
That is really awesome, I want one on my desk!
OmniscientSC2
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States713 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-04 22:47:43
March 04 2011 22:45 GMT
#5
Wow! That's so awesome. I'd love to see a Zerg and Protoss one as well! Also, where'd you get that teamliquid background?

I think Blizzard mainly has an issue with people who try to sell stuff they has Blizzard images (like the hydralisk bong). I really hope for the sake of you creating more of these that simply gifting/creating them is no problem.
"Did you know about Day and the Wicker Basket?" - Harem "Hi, I'm from Texas." -TLO
xbankx
Profile Joined July 2010
703 Posts
March 04 2011 22:45 GMT
#6
Man, I wish I can get one of these of course with the toss icon. But yea not sure law wise but this looks sick.
dyonehara
Profile Joined June 2010
United States69 Posts
March 04 2011 22:49 GMT
#7
That was quick! Thank you all for the positive feedback.

On March 05 2011 07:44 Enderbantoo wrote:
This is sweet. How did you find time to do this is college? im impressed.


It only takes about 20 minutes to machine, and it took me about an hour to program. Thankfully I'm not in some insanely difficult college like Harvey Mudd or maybe I wouldn't have had time for this.

On March 05 2011 07:45 OmniscientSC2 wrote:
Wow! That's so awesome. I'd love to see a Zerg and Protoss one as well! Also, where'd you get that teamliquid background?


I did a search for "TL wallpaper". It was in the blogs section, and they had both 16 and 4:3 aspect ratio versions of it.

I realize I can't sell these or offer to make them for others, but if there are other machinists out there with access to CAD/CAM software and machinery, I'd be happy to share the design so you can make your own!
HeIios
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2523 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-04 22:58:00
March 04 2011 22:56 GMT
#8
Looks like the kind of object I could slip on and slice off a testicle on.
Pretty rad, good work.
StayFrosty
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada743 Posts
March 04 2011 22:57 GMT
#9
Holy fuck thats awesome. Would you consider selling them? If so, please PM me, I'd be very interested in buying one.
Swwww
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Switzerland812 Posts
March 04 2011 23:00 GMT
#10
Looks amazing, man I'de love one of them :D
"What is this TeamSupportGroup?" - mahnini.
Arckan
Profile Joined September 2010
243 Posts
March 04 2011 23:04 GMT
#11
That thing is gorgeous, to say the least. I'm pretty sure as long as you aren't selling your product you should be fine.
Rokusha
Profile Joined January 2011
United States207 Posts
March 04 2011 23:06 GMT
#12
It looks sick but looks dangerous haha. I can imagine one slip up and off goes your hand. Good job though!
Archas
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6531 Posts
March 04 2011 23:09 GMT
#13
Wow. This is stunning. I wish I could make one myself, but alas, I wouldn't know the first thing about doing so. Incredible work, though.
The room is ripe with the stench of bitches!
thesideshow
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
930 Posts
March 04 2011 23:13 GMT
#14
The wonders of CNC machining ^^

looks like it can be used as a shuriken, but nonetheless, looks awesome dude! :D
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Xapti
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2473 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-04 23:18:35
March 04 2011 23:18 GMT
#15
Looks almost like it could be used as a brass-knuckles style weapon, lol. Zerg's rage quit fury. Looks great.
"Then he told me to tell you that he wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire" — "Well, you tell him that I said that I wouldn't piss on him if he was on Jeopardy!"
Eleaven
Profile Joined September 2010
772 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-24 04:41:48
March 24 2011 04:41 GMT
#16
so fugging jealous.

I would pay a lot for something that nice looking.

Blizzard make this guy official producer ^_^ Make sick profit for blizzard and give this guy some sick business ;D

Edit, nobody can touch you for doing things non profit i believe.

Triscuit
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States722 Posts
March 24 2011 04:44 GMT
#17
This thing is beautiful.

I wonder what the person who makes those baneling plushies had to do to get the rights to do that.

If you got the go-ahead from Blizzard to sell these things would it be something you'd consider?
FuDDx *
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States5008 Posts
March 24 2011 04:48 GMT
#18
Amazing work!!

Many Ice carvers have gone to using CnC machines. Ice T Ice Art is 100% hand carved beat that lol.Joking

I want a protoss one.

Here is an article touching on copyrighted material dealing with balloons but may give you some info on making things like this.
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Is it Legal to Create Balloon Versions of Popular Characters?

Copyright law is the body of laws that give authors exclusive rights to their creations for a limited time.
- Todd Neufeld

By Todd Neufeld
A quick look at recent video releases and various promotional material shows that many balloon artists are making balloon versions of everyone's favorite characters. Disney characters, Looney Tunes, Pokemon - are all being twisted, sculpted, and transformed into latex. The practice is popular, but is it legal? Should balloon artists continue to make balloon versions of characters regularly seen on television?

This is a tricky question because it involves the interplay of various legal protections with many individual situations. As a balloon artist, you must understand the legal framework, and then make an informed decision on how you should act. Unfortunately, some artists have turned to the balloon mailing list for legal advice. Do not rely on an entertainer's forum to answer your legal questions. You will get bad advice. Please find a good local intellectual property or media attorney who can address your specific needs. This article is a collection of my thoughts and my approach to creating balloon characters.

The Bottom Line

Creating a balloon version of a popular character probably constitutes both copyright and trademark infringement. It is copyright infringement because it is copying the expression of another without permission. It is trademark infringement because it is use of a registered mark without permission.

As balloon artists, we should be comfortable talking about copyrights and trademarks because they are an essential part of our world. Every time you create a new sculpture, you are eligible for copyright protection. Every time you interact with the public, you should be thinking about trademarks.

What is a Copyright?

Copyright law is the body of laws that give authors exclusive rights to their creations for a limited time. It protects original works of authorship including literary, dramatic, musical, and artistic works such as poetry, novels, movies, songs, computer software and architecture for the life of the author plus 70 years. The most important thing to remember is that copyright law protects the expression of an idea, not the idea itself. The purpose behind the law is to encourage creative expression by granting authors and their heirs the exclusive right to profit from their work for a limited time. That means more than just copying books. It means that nobody can reproduce, transform, perform, or display works without permission during the life of the copyright. After the copyright expires, the work enters the public domain and can be freely copied. My favorite application of public domain law is the Gutenberg Project promo.net/pg, which has made thousands of ebooks available online.

An intrusion on any of the rights granted to authors is called infringement. The penalties for copyright infringement vary with each situation. If your infringement is not making any money, then you might receive a nasty letter telling you to stop. You can, however, also be sued and forced to give the copyright owner all of your profits from the work. In some instances you may have to pay additional fees, which can be quite hefty. In addition, some types of copyright infringement are felonies, which means you go to jail!

The Unites States is a party to a number of international treaties (i.e. GATT and NAFTA). These treaties have set up a system of reciprocity between nations enabling copyright owners to pursue infringement claims across borders.

The internet is a valuable resource for information about copyright law. A good starting point is the U.S. Copyright Office www.loc.gov/copyright.

What is a Trademark?

A trademark is any word, name, symbol, or device used to identify and distinguish the goods of one manufacturer or seller from goods manufactured or sold by others, and to indicate the source of the goods. In short, a trademark is a brand name. A service mark is identical to a trademark, but it identifies the source of a service instead of a product. The terms "trademark" and "mark" are used interchangeably for trademarks and servicemarks.

Anything that links a company to its products or services is a called a mark. Names, slogans, and logos are the most common. Examples are all around you: The golden arches is linked to McDonald's, the phrase 'just do it' is linked to Nike, and the name 'Starbucks' is linked with the coffee shop giant. Marks are not just limited to names, slogans, and logos. The bright pink color used in insulation is also a mark (remember the Pink Panther in those commercials?). Even certain smells have been granted trademark protection. Anything that associates a company with a product/service is a likely candidate for a mark.

Not surprisingly, the Trademark Act www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/15/ch22.html> governs most trademark law in the United States. The US Patent and Trademark Office www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/15/ch22.html> handles the registration of trademarks. Most companies choose to register their marks with the government. This gives the company the legal recourse to stop anyone else from infringing on its mark and free-riding on its image.

Trademark infringement occurs when an individual or company uses someone else's mark inappropriately. A classic example of trademark infringement occurs when there is a 'likelihood of confusion' about the origin of goods or services. For example, if my business card proclaimed 'The Greatest Show On Earth,' potential customers might think that I was affiliated with the famous circus. There would be confusion about the origin of the show, is it me or Feld Entertainment?

You have to have both legal and business savvy to deal with trademarks. You might be able to use a similar name, word, or slogan if you are in a different market. But if the owner of the mark is very famous, you won't be able to touch it. A few years ago a hotel called itself McSleep. McDonalds took them to court. Even though the hotel company is in a different market, the court found they could not use the 'Mc' prefix because of the strength of McDonald's name recognition. In my office I have products from three companies named Apple: a broken laptop from Apple Computer, a CD from Apple Records, and t-shirt from Apple T-shirts. They each share a name, but not a market. Therefore, nobody is confused. Compare that to the number of people calling themselves 'The Balloon Man' in our small entertainment market - now that's confusion!

If you are using someone's mark without permission you can be forced to stop. In some instances you will have to pay the owner any profit you derived from using the mark, and possibly other expenses as well.

The world of trademark law is more complicated and interesting that these few paragraphs can capture. If there is enough interest I will write a more in depth column. In the meantime you can surf the internet for more trademark law resources. I recommend starting with 'Greg Guillots page www.ggmark.com.

Cartoon characters and the law

As you may have guessed by now, the popular cartoon characters on TV are protected by both copyright and trademark laws. First, because they are artistic works, they fall under the category of things-that-can-be-copyrighted. The copyright on the famous TV characters has not yet expired, so they are not in the public domain. Second, the cartoon characters instantly identify the company that makes them, so they are trademarks. Mickey Mouse is forever associated with Disney. The peacock is similarly associated with NBC Television. There are many obscure cartoon characters that are not marks, but they are still copyrighted.

The important thing to understand is that the Disney version of Donald Duck is what is protected. It is protected because Disney created it (copyright protection) and because it is identified in the market as a Disney product (trademark protection). If you create a completely original sailor duck that does not conjure up Donald or Disney then you have you not infringed on Disney's rights.

Balloon characters and the law
This is my favorite topic. Lately there has been a flurry of discussion on this topic in the entertainer forum. Most recently, it was brought up by Mary Wrzesinski marywrz.balloonhq.com in the context of creating a balloon version of a University mascot. The robust thread touched on many of the points that I want to address. Thanks Mary!

Myth: Nobody cares about balloon artists so we are safe
Or, to quote the mailing list,

If it's ever happened, I figure we'd "ALL" know by now.

This is partially correct -- if it has ever happened some of us would know. I do know that several Orlando-based balloon twisters have been stopped from making Disney-style cartoon characters. They were not dragged into court. Rather, they were nicely asked to stop, and then promptly complied. One artist in particular had to remove a wonderful picture from his BalloonHQ portfolio before being able to show the site to clients. This tells us that the people who manage the intellectual property of the big media companies are aware of our community. Currently, however, we are not a threat to them. We are still a small community, and we do not have any legitimate "national stars" who get media attention for creating balloon characters. I like to think that community-based entertainers reinforce the branding of characters rather than harm them. After all, a balloon Mickey Mouse encourages the kids to buy more Disney products! This is probably why none of us have been sued yet. Avoid the temptation to think that Disney, and other companies, are oblivious to our community. Just be grateful that we have not crossed them yet.

Myth: It is not copyright infringement because it is a balloon

Or, as someone said,

Copyrighted material you need to change it by 10%, in order for there not to be a problem.

This is just plain wrong. There is no bright-line rule for copyrighted material. Clearly if you copy something exactly you are infringing. What is not generally understood is that transforming a work into something else is also not allowed. A copyright holder has the exclusive right to all "derivative works." Congress defined a derivative work as "[A]ny other form in which a work may be recast, transformed, or adapted." If you don't believe me you can check the Copyright Code caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/casecode/uscodes/17/chapters/1/sections/section_101.html> yourself.

This notion of derivative works is what we need to be concerned with. As balloon twisters we are essentially transforming a drawn or plush character into inflated latex. The fact that the copyright owner does not twist balloons is irrelevant. The fact that the owner is not losing money is likewise irrelevant. The fact that we are such a minimal market force is also irrelevant. We are still treading on their rights.

Take a moment to read about the legal troubles that our favorite sculptor, Jeff Koons www.balloonhq.com/highlights/koons, got into. Mr. Koons took a photograph of some cute puppies from a greeting card and used them as a model for sculptures. He was sued and lost. Would Mr. Koons have been sued if he made the sculptures out of latex instead? I bet if those balloon figures sold for $367,000 (like the puppies did) he would still have landed in court! A nice short summary of derivative works and Mr. Koons' case is online www.artslaw.org/DERIV.HTM>. If you want to read the original case I will send it to you. Just ask.

There is a world of difference between inspiration and knock-off. It is okay if a cartoon character inspires you to make "cartooney" balloons. It is not okay if it inspires you to make a cartooney black mouse with a round face, white hands, red shorts, yellow buttons, that is a dead ringer for Mickey.

Generally, balloon twisters try to make their balloon characters as detailed and impressive as possible. Each added detail brings you closer to the original and closer to copyright infringement. If you try to twist a Mickey and it actually looks like Mickey then two things have occurred: You are a darn good twister and a darn good copyright infringer.

Myth: Some famous characters are in the public domain
Occasionally I hear twisters say that certain characters are 'in the public domain' so we can copy them. They are wrong. You do not have to place a copyright notice on a work in order to protect it. Therefore, even if I do not end this article with the words, "Copyright 2002 Todd A. Neufeld" you would still be forbidden to copy it without my permission. So if you have a video tape, poster, CD or hat with a character do not think that it is in the public domain because the copyright notation is missing. Understand that copyright protection attaches the moment the author finishes making the work. So as soon as I hit the 'save' button I have effectively 'copyrighted' this article, with or without the copyright notation.

The bottom line is that the popular cartoon characters have not expired yet. Mickey was supposed to expire next year, and Donald in 2009. However, Disney & Co. effectively lobbied Congress to extend the life of their lucrative characters. The result was the Sonny Bono Copyright Term Extension Act which adds an additional twenty years to the life of a copyright. That law is going to be examined by the Supreme Court this year, and I will be following the case very carefully. If you go back to the official copyright law you will see that Mickey Mouse and friends will live with Disney for 95 years:

Copyrights in Their Renewal Term at the Time of the Effective Date of the Sonny Bono Copyright Term Extension Act. - Any copyright still in its renewal term at the time that the Sonny Bono Copyright Term Extension Act becomes effective shall have a copyright term of 95 years from the date copyright was originally secured."

As you might imagine, this new law has many friends as well as many foes. I recommend that you read about it. Start with this nice AP article www.law.asu.edu/HomePages/Karjala/OpposingCopyrightExtension/commentary/ChiTrib10-17-98.html>. Then check out the 'Opposing Copyright Extension' www.law.asu.edu/HomePages/Karjala/OpposingCopyrightExtension/default.htm> web site that hosts it.

Please, do not be mislead into believing that your favorite Disney cartoons are in the public domain. If the Supreme Court overturns the Sono Bono act it will be on the front page of every newspaper. We can all celebrate it by hitting the streets and twisting our favorite Mickey knock-offs!

Myth: if they like you, you will not be sued

Also expressed as,

Knowing the kind of work you do it seems like they should be flattered.

If you stop and think about it, the more successful you are the less flattered the copyright owner will be. I do not want my TV stolen, even by a really talented cat burglar. I don't care if the thief is hungry, poor, talented, or insane. I do not want to lose my TV. I don't even want him sneaking into my house when I'm on vacation to watch it. I have the exclusive right to control who watches my TV, when they watch it, and how.

As a community entertainer you are below their radar, and not a threat to their income. However, if you are good enough to sell your sculptures for lots of money (like Jeff Koons), then you are good enough to be stopped.

Likewise, if you are good enough to come across their radar, then you are good enough to ask permission. Which brings me to the next point . . .

Truth: You can receive permission to twist famous characters

In Mary's case, someone on the mailing list suggested she obtain permission to sculpt the University's logo. She said,

Go to the school's president

This suggestion puts you on the right track. Just like the legitimate hat and t-shirt makers you should get permission to sell your products. It is easy to prepare a licensing agreement but not always easy to get it signed by the proper entity. However, it can be done. I believe that Marvin Hardy received permission from the late Charles Schultz to make his classic Snoopy. Royal Sorell obtained permission from the wife of Theodor Suess Geisel to make his Cat-In-A-Hat. Walt Disney World does employ balloon artists and they have express permission to make balloon versions of Disney characters. Unfortunately, you and I do not.

If you want to act without trampling any rights find the right person and ask. I do not recommend bothering the University President or a CEO. Presidents do not deal with small licensing agreements. Find out which office handles the company's image and media. You can probably find the proper office by clicking on a logo link from their web site or checking out the page with legalese from their site map. If you do have a personal relationship with the president or another important company official then use them as a reference when you approach the media office for permission.

Myth: A non-profit will not sue you, or, Logos do not matter

On the Entertainer Forum, someone felt that a University would not zealously protect their logo. The quote is:

They're not a for-profit organization and Bucky isn't their chief money maker

It does not matter that the school is a non-profit entity. It does not matter that your tax dollars help fund it. A non-profit corporation is a legal entity that can own, license, sue, and more. Universities take their logos VERY seriously. They make a lot of money from selling T-shirts and other licensed material. If you don't believe me just walk into the campus bookstore on Parent's Weekend and watch the merchandise move out the door.

Please do not think that your local University will ignore you.

The changing landscape of Trademark Law

As I pointed out above, all companies take their logos and protected images very seriously. After all, the marks are how their customers identify them. A conglomerate of companies went so far as to get Congress to extend the life of their works. (The 'Sonny Bono Copyright Amendment' discussed above). If the big companies care enough about their works to change the law, they care enough to send a couple of balloon artists cease-and-desist letters.

Here is the murky area: Instead of being accused of confusing customers, an artist can now be accused of merely using a mark without permission. With the Federal Trademark Dilution Act of 1995 the media companies no longer have to prove a likelihood of consumer confusion, only that their marks were used. Let me repeat that: Trademark owners no longer have to prove that we confused any of their consumers. Just using their trademark inappropriately is enough to violate their rights. That is a very low threshold. A good summary of the law can be found online here www.bitlaw.com/trademark/dilution.html>.

This revised version of the law was designed to target cyber-squatters. Those are the people who buy domain names of famous marks and try to sell it to the trademark owner. They are frequently sued. The new law only applies to 'famous' marks. What is famous? I don't know, but I bet Mickey Mouse is one of them.

The Fair Use loophole

Now that you understand the law, I am going to touch on the convoluted exceptions. The most important is the notion of Fair Use. This is a part of copyright law that allows you use an author's work without permission in limited circumstances. What are those circumstances? There is no bright-line rule, rather, Congress has established a balancing test. The factors to balance include (1) the purpose and character of the use, (2) the nature of the copyrighted work, (3) the amount and substantiality of the work used, and (4) the effect of the use on the market value of the original.

The first factor is the most important. The Supreme Court has said that copies made for commercial or profit-making purposes are presumptively unfair. ['Heres the: case file, look at page 449.] They later elaborated in a famous case concerning President Nixon's memoirs. They explained (on page 562 of the case) that the crux is 'whether the user stands to profit from exploitation of the copyrighted material without paying the customary price." That means if your use of the copyrighted work is more likely to be fair use if you are not making money. Well, that makes sense. Use of a work to teach, write a review, practice, or quote is generally acceptable.

Think about this in terms of your business as a balloon artist. It is not fair use to sculpt a Mickey Mouse balloon and sell it as a centerpiece decoration. It is probably fair use to sit in your living room and practice your balloon skills by copying Mickey Mouse. The first is definitely an exploitation of Mickey. Further, the guests seeing the Mickey centerpiece will probably think it is a licensed Disney product. The client might have even wavered between using a plush Mickey Mouse centerpiece or a balloon one. There is a good chance that the centerpiece both confuses customers and takes a sale away from Disney. Compare that to the second instance. The second use was in private and for artistic growth. You are not making any money in the second situation. Do you see the difference? Context matters.

The Parody Exception

Lately, balloon artists have begun calling their work 'parodies.' I am a big proponent of this, because a parody is one form of fair use. Do not think, however, that the label makes the difference - it is the context that counts. If you are accused of copyright/trademark infringement for your work, and you can prove that is a parody of the original, then you are home free!

So what is a parody?

The court in the Koons case said it best:

Parody or satire, as we understand it, is when one artist, for comic effect or social commentary, closely imitates the style of another artist and in so doing creates a new art work that makes ridiculous the style and expression of the original. Under our cases parody and satire are valued forms of criticism, encouraged because this sort of criticism itself fosters the creativity protected by the copyright law. 960 F.2d 301, 309 (1992).

It is difficult to give a formula for creating parodies. Generally, in a parody you can use more of the original work than in other fair use instances (such as a book review). But the audience must understand that there is an original and separate expression, attributable to a different artist. Therefore, the copied work must be publicly known or somehow acknowledged by the parodist in connection with the parody. Id at 310. Also, you can profit from a parody and it is still considered fair use.

Please realize that a parody is more than just a funny presentation. It should include social or political commentary. It should include criticism and ridicule of the original work. It should push the bounds of your audiences' expectations. It should make them laugh and think. It should be the performance that they talk about over breakfast the next day. As stated by the Second Circuit Court of Appeals:

[I]n order to constitute the type of parody eligible for fair use protection, parody must do more than merely achieve comic effect. It must also make some critical comment or statement about the original work which reflects the original perspective of the parodist--thereby giving the parody social value beyond its entertainment function. Elsmere Music, Inc. v. National Broadcasting Co., 623 F.2d 252, 253 (2d Cir. 1980).

Once again, context matters. A balloon cartoon character that copies the original and is sold in your gift shop is not a parody, no matter what label you stick on it. However, that same balloon sculpture, created as you deliver a witty, insightful, and sarcastic presentation, is a parody.

Why does the context matter? If you stop and think about it, your parody is bringing valuable ideas and expression to the public. You are giving them insights, opinions, and information that is not normally associated with the cartoon character. There is no chance your audience would confuse you with the originator of the character, because your presentation is so original and mocking. You are starting with the original cartoon and using it as a vehicle for social commentary. You are not stealing customers from the originator, you are creating an entirely original product.

Creating parodies is not easy. But the effort is worth it!

What should you do?

But the big question still remains: Should you continue to make balloon versions of famous characters? If so, will you be sued?

I cannot answer that question for you. What are the risks? Are you visible enough in the market to attract their attention? What will you do if you are asked to stop?

From the perspective of a huge media company, a few balloon twisters around the world are not a problem. If one gets too close to home (perhaps near Walt Disney World) they can 'swat them' with a nasty letter. Are they willing to go to court to stop the balloon artist? Perhaps. But are you willing to be a test case? It may take tens of thousands of dollars in legal fees just to prove if you are right or wrong. Do you have those resources?

Are you more likely to be noticed if you work near the copyright/trademark owner? Probably. Who knows? Maybe they won't bother you. Maybe the publicity will be good for you -- you'll get on the local news. Maybe it will scare off your corporate clients who don't want to be associated with an infringer. If you land a large TV contract to twist balloons you will probably be stopped if you made character balloons without permission. But there is a huge sea of gray between being a community entertainer and a national TV star. Where do you fall?

The Twistin' Todd approach

As both a balloon entertainer and attorney, I am very sensitive to these issues. I do not want to be in the business of copyright/trademark infringement, and yet I want to offer my clientele the best balloons that I can make.

First, I try not to twist famous cartoon characters at gigs. I do make a number of balloon cartoons, but they are rarely balloon versions of Mickey, Goofy, Pooh, or other cartoon celebrities. I make fun cartoon ducks, chickens, bears, and others. When 'forced' to make a cartoon celebrity I make a balloon version that takes as little from the original as possible. For example, a red circle with white eyes and an orange nose looks nothing like Elmo from Sesame Street. Yet somehow, the combination of those colors makes little kids scream out 'Elllll Moeee'. I do not understand why or how. The balloon lacks arms, hands, legs, feet, a body, a round head, fur, etc. But it still gets the funny response.

So instead of copying the original, I am merely referencing it. It is a subtle distinction, but very important. If you look at the list of fair use factors, you will note one of them balances the amount that you copied. Obviously, the less you copy, the less likely you are to be an infringer. Similarly, the further away you are from the company logo, the less the likelihood of confusion.

Second, I try to twist character hats, not the characters themselves. I explain, 'no, I can't twist a balloon Goofy for you, Goofy is an actor on TV. But I can give you a goofy-looking hat and you can pretend to be the TV star!' Note the double meaning attached to the word 'Goofy'. I then create a hat with a cartoon face that minimally evokes the famous character. I put it on the person's head, and tell them to become the TV star - they will start to act silly and use funny voices. I move the focus away from my skill in copying to the experience of wearing a hat with character. What if they insist on having a balloon doll just like the cartoon? I refuse. First, I do not have time to twist one of those, and second, I do not want to infringe on any copyright/trademark.

Third, when I want to impress a client, I make something else. I make a caricature of a person at the event, not a caricature of a cartoon. I show them a balloon magic trick. I set up a balloon game. I use the balloons to tell a story. I use the balloons to transform an audience member into a fantasy figure. Everyone has seen cartoon characters - but not original balloon sculptures.

Fourth, I create a humorous presentation imbued with social commentary. Once of my favorites is to mock the influence of television on educating our youth.

Finally, I only twist detailed characters for practice or for free. When I am not busy I will go to my favorite street performing venue and practice. I practice to try out new techniques and create new presentations. Some of the sculptures look like characters on an audience members t-shirt. Some do not. As a street performer, I do not charge for my work. My hat is filled if my audience likes me - none of that one-dollar-for-a-balloon-thing. I know that I can take what I learn in my practice sessions and apply it to my own original work. Some of it will result in original sculptures, others in original presentations, and a small percentage might become a parody of a famous work

The end

If you have read this far then you know more about balloons and intellectual property law then most people do. Make an informed choice. Be original. And try not to get sued!

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lac29
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1485 Posts
March 24 2011 04:53 GMT
#19
Really nice stuff ... when you say you machined it ... that's by hand right? Or are there automachining machines out there?
dyonehara
Profile Joined June 2010
United States69 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-24 05:01:41
March 24 2011 04:58 GMT
#20
Triscuit, I would, but there are many other machine shops who are equipped to handle a task like this more efficiently and could easily undercut me. If Blizzard wanted these made they could achieve it without my help.

Thanks for the long, but interesting read, Fudd!

Much like the balloon entertainer/attorney, I suppose I won't be making any for commercial use. I will however be making a few more for personal use. I'll try to post up more works as they come. I'm on Spring break right now so I should have the time to make a Protoss or Terran logo soon.

lac, you can google CNC machining to see what type of work was involved in making this piece.

I hope this doesn't count as advertising, but this company does incredible work. Way beyond my scope of understanding CNC machining. They machine a motorcycle helmet out of a block of solid metal. Just to clarify, I'm not affiliated with them in any way. This is just to illustrate how CNC machining works:

Jonas :)
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States511 Posts
March 24 2011 05:31 GMT
#21
That machine is insane, that has to cost at least +100, 000 dollars. Damn man, way to put technology to good use =D
Murkinlol
Profile Joined August 2010
United States366 Posts
March 24 2011 05:37 GMT
#22
Wow that piece is absolutely stunning. I would easily pay for something like that. I could picture the three races hanging in a framed piece on my wall, would be beautiful!!! Keep up the good work, I would really love to have one of those.
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echO [W]
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1495 Posts
March 24 2011 05:43 GMT
#23
I am not a lawyer, so now that that's out of the way.

If you were to get in trouble for machining the Zerg emblem out of metal, wouldn't Blizzard have to end up going after everyone who creates fan art? People drawing Blizzard stuff, people baking Blizzard related goods, people making stuffed Blizzard animals (DIY).

There is so much community created stuff art wise not for profit. I think you should be fine, but as I've said, I'm not a lawyer.
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CPTBadAss
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States594 Posts
March 24 2011 05:44 GMT
#24
You're kinda my hero. You managed to combine machining and starcraft in one amazing post. Mad props sir
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AnxiousHippo
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia1451 Posts
March 24 2011 05:47 GMT
#25
I love it. Sorry, I don't know about the legal stuff. I presume that you'd be allowed to gift it if you're not getting money off it.
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nichan
Profile Joined December 2010
United States158 Posts
March 24 2011 06:00 GMT
#26
Nice I want the protoss one now
SonuvBob
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Aiur21549 Posts
March 24 2011 06:33 GMT
#27
Wow. You could murder someone with that.

And then you wouldn't even want to throw it in a river because it's so cool, though you'd probably clean it real well and wipe your fingerprints off because it wouldn't look good dirty and smudged, but you'd still leave it in plain view because it's pretty sweet and you want people to see it but chances are you wouldn't get all the microscopic bits of blood off because let's face it you're not that good at cleaning things, usually just a once over is good enough for you because who can tell the difference, but well, the cops can cause they have fancy labs and stuff, so they'd catch you and you'd end up going to prison for a decade or two, maybe out on parole sooner for good behavior but then you've got a felony on your record and you'll never get a good job so your life is pretty much over and also you killed someone which can't feel too good either and no one will ever love you because, well, look at you, you're a mess, and also a murderer, so at this point your life is pretty much over.

I hope you're happy, OP.
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Kallehoe
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden67 Posts
March 24 2011 07:32 GMT
#28
not at all far fetched sonuv... :D

on another note, damnit! i want one! make a stand on it so i can have it on my desk!
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FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
March 24 2011 07:34 GMT
#29
This looks like such a cool ninja weapon ahah nice job
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R0YAL
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States1768 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-24 07:46:45
March 24 2011 07:44 GMT
#30
That looks so badass! Me want!
On March 05 2011 08:13 thesideshow wrote:
The wonders of CNC machining ^^

looks like it can be used as a shuriken, but nonetheless, looks awesome dude! :D


Hah thats exactly what I was going to say xD

On March 24 2011 15:33 SonuvBob wrote:
Wow. You could murder someone with that.

And then you wouldn't even want to throw it in a river because it's so cool, though you'd probably clean it real well and wipe your fingerprints off because it wouldn't look good dirty and smudged, but you'd still leave it in plain view because it's pretty sweet and you want people to see it but chances are you wouldn't get all the microscopic bits of blood off because let's face it you're not that good at cleaning things, usually just a once over is good enough for you because who can tell the difference, but well, the cops can cause they have fancy labs and stuff, so they'd catch you and you'd end up going to prison for a decade or two, maybe out on parole sooner for good behavior but then you've got a felony on your record and you'll never get a good job so your life is pretty much over and also you killed someone which can't feel too good either and no one will ever love you because, well, look at you, you're a mess, and also a murderer, so at this point your life is pretty much over.

I hope you're happy, OP.


What a hysterical tangent
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LazyMacro
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
976 Posts
March 24 2011 08:04 GMT
#31
I want to buy one of the Protoss emblem. I'm serious. PM me.
Gokey
Profile Joined November 2006
United States2722 Posts
March 24 2011 08:08 GMT
#32
That is so unbelievably awesome.
Kontemptuous
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia132 Posts
March 24 2011 08:12 GMT
#33
So cool! I want one
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Skrammen
Profile Joined October 2010
Norway195 Posts
March 24 2011 08:12 GMT
#34
Excellent job. What is the thickness of that thing?
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Kojaimea
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom277 Posts
March 24 2011 08:16 GMT
#35
This is really cool. I hope Blizz don't have anything to say.
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Electric.Jesus
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany755 Posts
March 24 2011 14:13 GMT
#36
On March 24 2011 16:34 FinestHour wrote:
This looks like such a cool ninja weapon ahah nice job


Just my thought as I saw this awesome piece of fanart! I love how creative some people on tl.net are. Way to go, man, way to go.
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Sheekthief
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States267 Posts
March 24 2011 14:20 GMT
#37
Anybody up for some Frisbee? I throw first!

Seriously though, that is epic and I am totally jealous :<
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Manimal_pro
Profile Joined June 2010
Romania991 Posts
March 24 2011 14:21 GMT
#38
these would be very nice to be offered as awards at tournaments for the winners

Can't you ask for blizzard's permission to sell these?
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starcraft911
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Korea (South)1263 Posts
March 24 2011 14:27 GMT
#39
You could totally cut someones head off with that thing.
Clearout
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway1060 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-24 15:02:43
March 24 2011 14:46 GMT
#40
Holy awesome, thats really cool! On another note, where did you get that desktop?

Edit. I can't read.
really?
Tennet
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1458 Posts
March 24 2011 14:53 GMT
#41
On March 24 2011 23:46 Clearout wrote:
Holy awesome, thats really cool! On another note, where did you get that desktop?

read the first 6 posts...
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Clearout
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway1060 Posts
March 24 2011 15:02 GMT
#42
On March 24 2011 23:53 Tennet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2011 23:46 Clearout wrote:
Holy awesome, thats really cool! On another note, where did you get that desktop?

read the first 6 posts...
Oh I suck, thanks though
really?
Roeder
Profile Joined July 2010
Denmark735 Posts
March 24 2011 15:02 GMT
#43
Super cool! I'd be willing to buy a protoss one, if they were made.
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Crais
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada2136 Posts
March 24 2011 15:07 GMT
#44
Wow so awesome.
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Karn3
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom134 Posts
March 24 2011 15:16 GMT
#45
I would kill, probably with that, to get a protoss one to hang on my wall!
Hypemeup
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden2783 Posts
March 24 2011 15:18 GMT
#46
That looks... Awesome :o
mikehall683
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States159 Posts
March 24 2011 15:21 GMT
#47
This is reeeaaally cool. That thing looks dangerous lol. But doesn't this belong in sc2 general?
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Zealotdriver
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1557 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-15 17:42:19
March 24 2011 15:52 GMT
#48
Turn off the radio
Blacktion
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom1148 Posts
March 24 2011 16:07 GMT
#49
Incredible stuff.
dyonehara is there any way you can copy the file of CNC instructions so i could load it onto a computer and not have to program the design?
I have a friend with access to a machine but he wouldnt have the time to program it in, if he could just load the file and run it it will be perfect.
Also have you any plans for a terran and protoss one? Haveing all 3 hung next to each other would be baller.
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Tschis
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil1511 Posts
March 24 2011 16:19 GMT
#50
this thing is amazing :O

//tx
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TrueRedemption
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States313 Posts
March 24 2011 16:37 GMT
#51
Absolutely amazing work, thanks for the contribution! I really hope this motivates someone to make these available for purchase, I understand your hesitance to sell them though. Either way awesome job.
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Kojaimea
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom277 Posts
March 24 2011 16:55 GMT
#52
Interesting!

What 3D modelling software do you use? It wouldn't be PRO Engineer would it? My father works at PTC, and i'm sure he'd love to see this. Let me know!
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Wrongspeedy
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1655 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-24 17:13:31
March 24 2011 17:10 GMT
#53
+ Show Spoiler +
On March 05 2011 07:41 dyonehara wrote:
I've been feeling a bit guilty lately as I've been using TL for quite a while but never contributed anything to the community as far as posts or content, so I thought I might share some work I've created on my spare time. I did a search and noticed most fanart postings were either blogs or in General, so if this isn't the place to post this type of content I apologize.

About the piece:
The logo is machined from a solid piece of 6061-T651 Billet Aluminum using a Bridgeport CNC machine. The surface is brushed to give it a semi-reflective finish, and the edges are all left as a machined finish give it a mirror look. It runs about 9 inches from head to tail and I tapped two holes in the back, so could mount it onto something. I haven't really figured out what to mount it to yet.

About the creator:
I'm a college student, like 99% of you out there, but my family operates a small machine shop, so on my spare time I make parts and other pieces of interest. I've always been a huge fan of Starcraft since it's inception over a decade ago, but I've really grown attached to SC2 as a whole. A month or so ago I really wanted to create something that I could send in to one of my favorite casters but wasn't sure how to go about it. I ended up creating this piece and I want to make one more for him.

I was curious if anyone knew what the legal implications were of doing so. This would be a gift, and I don't plan on making any more after these two, but I realize that Blizzard aggressively pursues anyone who creates content based on any of their copyright material. A long as it's not creating any legal complications, I might end up doing a Terran and Protoss logo later to show off here as well.

I look forward to the feedback of TL's community, and thank you all for viewing!

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Someone might have already said this but as long as your not trying to make a profit off something that they have copyrighted (or trademarked) you should be in the clear. If I were you I'd send one to the blizzard offices as a gift and see if they give you any kind of response (at least something like "hey thanks for being a fan").
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Tschis
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil1511 Posts
March 24 2011 17:15 GMT
#54
How much did it cost for you to do that? I mean, how much $ in aluminium and other stuff, did you waste?

//tx
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blindsniper
Profile Joined July 2010
United States143 Posts
March 24 2011 17:36 GMT
#55
send pics to Blizzard! fanart section
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dyonehara
Profile Joined June 2010
United States69 Posts
March 24 2011 17:37 GMT
#56
I can post a DXF or DXG, but the program will vary by machine and usually needs to be generated independently because of the syntax differences. I used an older Bridgeport for this project, but I'm assuming your friend will have a HAAS. They're the "Toyota" of CNC machines, very reliable and very popular, but a bit out of my price range. My machine is akin to an old Ford - a bit outdated but bulletproof and will probably outlive me. I'm at work right now but when I get home I'll try to upload the file to my server. I've also got a Terran and Protoss logo. I'll post those up as well.

I used AutoCAD to generate the images, but I use Master Cam to create the programs. I've never heard of PRO Engineer, but since the files are proprietary most CAD software can read files regardless of what program generated them.

I really like the idea of a trophy. I'll be machining some work this weekend so if I have time, I'll try to create something worth sharing here.

I wouldn't say I wasted any aluminum in making this, but depending on the grade of aluminum used, the price can vary heavily. I used 6061-T651 grade aluminum for this. It's one of the most common aircraft grade aluminum alloys you can find at most metal dispensaries. The tooling and holding fixtures are where most of the sunken cost lies in making parts like this. Sorry for not being able to provide an exact figure.
dyonehara
Profile Joined June 2010
United States69 Posts
April 01 2011 19:15 GMT
#57
My first attempt at making a Protoss logo failed miserably. Attempt number two will be today! Hopefully I'll have something physical to share with everyone later tonight.

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Skrammen
Profile Joined October 2010
Norway195 Posts
April 01 2011 20:52 GMT
#58
If you have access to any kind of video equipment, you should definitly post it on the youtubes!
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DumEN
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden123 Posts
April 01 2011 21:09 GMT
#59
Hmm, how are you going to keep the 'floaty' part in the middle in place?`Are you going to keep a thin aluminium strip untouched? Looks great!
pinnacle
Profile Joined November 2010
United States86 Posts
April 01 2011 21:22 GMT
#60
Amazing, it also looks really sharp
MaxField
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2386 Posts
April 01 2011 21:22 GMT
#61
Wow bro can you make me one

On March 24 2011 15:33 SonuvBob wrote:
Wow. You could murder someone with that.

And then you wouldn't even want to throw it in a river because it's so cool, though you'd probably clean it real well and wipe your fingerprints off because it wouldn't look good dirty and smudged, but you'd still leave it in plain view because it's pretty sweet and you want people to see it but chances are you wouldn't get all the microscopic bits of blood off because let's face it you're not that good at cleaning things, usually just a once over is good enough for you because who can tell the difference, but well, the cops can cause they have fancy labs and stuff, so they'd catch you and you'd end up going to prison for a decade or two, maybe out on parole sooner for good behavior but then you've got a felony on your record and you'll never get a good job so your life is pretty much over and also you killed someone which can't feel too good either and no one will ever love you because, well, look at you, you're a mess, and also a murderer, so at this point your life is pretty much over.

I hope you're happy, OP.


On second thought, never mind, i am happy without having to kill anyone


That is so cool though! That video of the helmet is like amazing, Technology just blows me away!
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dyonehara
Profile Joined June 2010
United States69 Posts
April 04 2011 02:18 GMT
#62
Finished my second project piece! It came out better than expected, now I just need to figure out how to get a blue sphere to levitate in the center. I can't figure out which logo to do for Terran. I believe the official logo is akin to a shield ( terran dominion logo? ) but the more commonly seen one is a bird surrounded by a triangle.

I like the bird one more, but obviously the shield will be much easier to machine. The Zerg and Protoss logos both almost destroyed my cutters because of the complex sharp edges. We'll see I suppose.

Anyways, here are a few new photos. I hope you are enjoy!

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BroOd
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Austin10831 Posts
April 04 2011 02:22 GMT
#63
Nicely done. I think the bird version of the terran more fits in line with the other two.
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meep
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1699 Posts
April 04 2011 03:11 GMT
#64
Holy shit that looks awesome. I'd buy one.
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ThaZenith
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada3116 Posts
April 04 2011 05:34 GMT
#65
On April 04 2011 12:11 meep wrote:
Holy shit that looks awesome. I'd buy one.

QFT

I've never seen anything related to SC2 I've wanted to buy as much as this.

Those glass stands(?) you have them on look nice too.

I wonder which lucky caster is going to get them?

I'd say to start selling them, even if you think you'd get undercut. It wouldn't happen instantly, so you could make some profit before then. Although I guess I dunno how much of a profit blizzard would take.

Epic work regardless.
LordofAscension
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States589 Posts
April 04 2011 05:36 GMT
#66
Wow those look fantastic!!!

I definitely would love these - they are absolutely great!!

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Elegy
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States1629 Posts
April 04 2011 05:40 GMT
#67
Man these are so sick.

It'd be amazing to see the Terran bird, the design seems it'd be more difficult than the others, though?

Also, are these expensive to make?
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
April 04 2011 05:42 GMT
#68
That last image is sick, nice job!
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iPlaY.NettleS
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Australia4349 Posts
April 04 2011 05:43 GMT
#69
On March 25 2011 02:15 Tschis wrote:
How much did it cost for you to do that? I mean, how much $ in aluminium and other stuff, did you waste?

//tx

Wouldn't have thought more than $5 of material for each one , aluminium is pretty cheap.
Good job with these
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Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5711 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-04 05:58:53
April 04 2011 05:57 GMT
#70
I think it's better you didn't tell which caster is going to get these sick peices of art. We'll probably kill them in their sleep to get our hands on these.

Side note HOLY CRAP that is awesome. I would buy one of these in seconds if you ebay'd them or sold them omg. I need to find someone who knows how to do this with machines and get them to make me a couple now. I'm 100% serious too.

edit: Which caster is going to get these lol
Asato ma sad gamaya, tamaso ma jyotir gamaya, mrtyor mamrtam gamaya
iPlaY.NettleS
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Australia4349 Posts
April 04 2011 08:16 GMT
#71
Prizes for a TL SC2 tournament?
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0x64
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Finland4576 Posts
April 04 2011 13:22 GMT
#72
Teamliquid logo next
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HuggyBear
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia377 Posts
April 04 2011 13:30 GMT
#73
I would buy this.

Better yet. I would enter and win a tournament for this.
Screw prizes, this should be a trophy
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Lythox
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands161 Posts
April 04 2011 13:41 GMT
#74
OP to who are you sending them? :O

Here's secretly hoping Daynine gets them, if anyone deserves one of these it must be him ^^
heladocasero
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia87 Posts
April 04 2011 13:45 GMT
#75
Sick lighting in the photos man, they look hectic!
Looking forward to the Terran one :D
leviathan400
Profile Joined November 2006
United Kingdom393 Posts
April 04 2011 13:49 GMT
#76
Sweet work
:o
57 Corvette
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada5941 Posts
April 04 2011 13:52 GMT
#77
Do you have the measurements for the protoss one? I would be interested in making one for myself out of wood, and painting it.
Survival is winning, everything else is bullshit.
KaiserW
Profile Joined November 2010
United States87 Posts
April 04 2011 13:55 GMT
#78
Great work.
Well done on the pictures as well.

I sent you a PM.

Good luck with the Terran Emblem!
"We are all but shadows in the void." - Stalker
CaptainCrush
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States785 Posts
April 04 2011 13:59 GMT
#79
MUST have a terran emblem. These look incredible. Good work!
Hatsu
Profile Joined March 2010
United Kingdom474 Posts
April 04 2011 14:10 GMT
#80
Totally loving this, I would be willing to pay for a set of those. Is there any way I could get them manufactured or hire someone else to do it? So beautiful!
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Hans-Titan
Profile Blog Joined March 2005
Denmark1711 Posts
April 04 2011 14:14 GMT
#81
I have never seriously considered buying SC-related merhandise.

Until know.
Trying is the first step towards failure, and hope is the first step towards disappointment!
shell
Profile Joined October 2010
Portugal2722 Posts
April 04 2011 14:22 GMT
#82
Great work dude!
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Roeder
Profile Joined July 2010
Denmark735 Posts
April 04 2011 14:23 GMT
#83
Must.. have.. toss emblem.
Starcraft is a mix between chess, poker and a Michael Bay movie.
Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5711 Posts
April 05 2011 03:26 GMT
#84
Could you tell us a little more about what's needed to make these? Per say if I was wondering about asking some machine shops to make these. Also heard someone said it's only like $5 for the aluminum, given you're probably gonna pay mostly for labor if you get someone to make them for you.
Asato ma sad gamaya, tamaso ma jyotir gamaya, mrtyor mamrtam gamaya
CrazyF1r3f0x
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States2120 Posts
April 05 2011 03:29 GMT
#85
I could see that Zerg one being used as some sort of sick thrown weapon :O
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Kojaimea
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom277 Posts
April 06 2011 17:03 GMT
#86
Hey buddy, can you post the 3d DXF files? 2d will do, but 3d would be preferred.

Really like the protoss design! Looking forward to seeing the terran logo too.
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Strike_
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Netherlands704 Posts
April 06 2011 17:10 GMT
#87
SHUT UP AND TAKE MY WALLET
no seriously where can I buy
[Agony]x90
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States853 Posts
April 06 2011 17:16 GMT
#88
Sweet stuff! Although I'm curious as well, how sharp are those edges?

Also, If i provided you a factory, could you build me a siege tank?
JF dodger since 2009
DamnCats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1472 Posts
April 06 2011 17:17 GMT
#89
How awesome would it be to turn these into hubcaps for your car? I'd totally rock some zerg hubcaps. Baller shit.
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NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
April 06 2011 17:24 GMT
#90
i so want 1 :<.... i wish i hv access to the engineering faculty in my school :<
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TryThis
Profile Joined February 2007
Canada1522 Posts
April 06 2011 17:26 GMT
#91
wow....that stuff is so badass man.

amazing.
Dwell
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
April 06 2011 17:29 GMT
#92
Those are amazing.
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hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-06 17:33:44
April 06 2011 17:33 GMT
#93
Whoa! That looks absolutely amazing.

I kinda like how the edges look sharp as fuck and totally dangerous haha
Spekulatius
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany2413 Posts
April 06 2011 17:39 GMT
#94
Refined metal - raw talent. Those are beautiful!
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CyberPitz
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States428 Posts
April 06 2011 17:44 GMT
#95
I...I want one so bad.....

Good job, OP!!!
heheman3000
Profile Joined July 2010
United States4 Posts
April 06 2011 17:47 GMT
#96
What's the best way for you to share the CAD drawings? I have a machine shop with CNC mills at my school and this would make an awesome present for my starcraft buddies.
mike1290
Profile Joined January 2011
United States88 Posts
April 06 2011 17:55 GMT
#97
Hypothetically, if Blizzard sold these (for a reasonable price), would you still buy one?
HateRock
Raagruk
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada66 Posts
April 07 2011 00:09 GMT
#98
these look awesome, id buy a zerg one and a toss one
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FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
April 07 2011 00:18 GMT
#99
Have you considered making some for the other 2 races? That would be awesome.
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Bizarro252
Profile Joined January 2011
180 Posts
April 07 2011 00:21 GMT
#100
Must have, how much....drooooooolll
TALegion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1187 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-07 00:23:44
April 07 2011 00:23 GMT
#101
I thought it was just a computer picture at first; it looks to perfect.
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Reason.SC2
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1047 Posts
April 07 2011 00:23 GMT
#102
wow those are kickass.

I want one!!!!
Render
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States249 Posts
April 07 2011 00:25 GMT
#103
Gorgeous pieces. I will pay one million dollars. esport dollars.
Rose my color is and white, pretty mouth and green my eyes.
KevinIX
Profile Joined October 2009
United States2472 Posts
April 07 2011 00:27 GMT
#104
If you don't make a Terran one, you're racist.
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intrigue
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Washington, D.C9934 Posts
April 07 2011 00:30 GMT
#105
wow that looks amazing. the first pic especially, with the yellow TL banner in the background is gorgeous
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jinorazi
Profile Joined October 2004
Korea (South)4948 Posts
April 07 2011 00:30 GMT
#106
on a related note, is it illegal to sell these?

for example i were to make charms(silver/gold) of these emblems, would it be illegal to sell those?
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Lobotomist
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1541 Posts
April 07 2011 00:32 GMT
#107
That is super cool!

On the subject of mounting, I would suggest something black. The pictures look really cool partially because of the contrast between the aluminum and your dark background, so try to keep that. Maybe something similar to this:

black guitar stand

Those are probably a bit big, but something of similar form (tripod - post - mounting attachment) would look good.

Anyway, really nice. I'm jealous. As a collegiate mechanical engineer, I'm pretty tempted to liberate some spare aluminum and figure out the CNC machine myself.
Teching to hive too quickly isn't just a risk: it's an ultrarisk
Kojaimea
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom277 Posts
April 08 2011 18:44 GMT
#108
On April 07 2011 02:03 Kojaimea wrote:
Hey buddy, can you post the 3d DXF files? 2d will do, but 3d would be preferred.

Really like the protoss design! Looking forward to seeing the terran logo too.

Sorry to bump with a quote of myself, but i'd really like thsoe files!!
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SC2Chaos
Profile Joined January 2011
United States36 Posts
April 08 2011 20:49 GMT
#109
Where can I find the yellow TL background from the OP?
Vuistgevecht
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands77 Posts
April 08 2011 22:39 GMT
#110
i would buy one of those
dyonehara
Profile Joined June 2010
United States69 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-22 18:14:19
May 22 2011 18:06 GMT
#111
Sorry for taking so long with the files.

www.yospeed.com/upload/starcraft-2-logos-in-cad-dwg-format.dwg

www.yospeed.com/upload/starcraft-2-logos-in-cad-dwg-format.dxf

I should have a Terran logo later this week!

Edit: I posted a link to the TL wallpaper thread on the front page since so many people have been asking about it.
dyonehara
Profile Joined June 2010
United States69 Posts
May 24 2011 08:36 GMT
#112
Completed the set. Now I have all three races! :D

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OmniscientSC2
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States713 Posts
May 24 2011 08:41 GMT
#113
On May 24 2011 17:36 dyonehara wrote:
Completed the set. Now I have all three races! :D

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Sick. You should make them into ninja stars
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2on2
Profile Joined April 2009
United States142 Posts
May 24 2011 13:48 GMT
#114
Since the majority of us can only dream of owning these remarkable creations, can you take a hi-res pic of all 3 that we can use as wallpapers? They are that nice to look at, well done ^^
Xevious
Profile Joined February 2011
United States2086 Posts
May 30 2011 06:06 GMT
#115
Incredible stuff man, it's a shame you can't sell them :/
MaxField
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2386 Posts
May 30 2011 06:08 GMT
#116
Ya this is kinda a big deal. I wish so bad you could start a website and sell these bad boys off. I would order one no problem.
"Zerg, so bad it loses to hydras" IdrA.
PresenceSc2
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4032 Posts
May 30 2011 06:08 GMT
#117
i need 1 @_@
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Eluadyl
Profile Joined May 2010
Turkey364 Posts
May 30 2011 09:04 GMT
#118
Good work man.

Would it be rude if I stole your idea and make myself some?
Not enough energy
57 Corvette
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada5941 Posts
May 30 2011 14:01 GMT
#119
Damn, these are so awesome.

(If you don't mind me using your files to make my own) I am going to ask the woodshop teacher if I can come in some day during exams and cut these out on the CNC (out of wood ofc). I'd love a protoss one for myself.

Survival is winning, everything else is bullshit.
ampson
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2355 Posts
May 30 2011 14:21 GMT
#120
Ok, now do the xel naga, hot shot. (seriously though, great job)
dyonehara
Profile Joined June 2010
United States69 Posts
May 31 2011 16:42 GMT
#121
I can't for the life of me find a Xel Naga emblem, but I was thinking about making a Team Liquid shield and sending it in to the TL house as thanks for creating this community. That's going to have to until after finals week, though.

To anyone thinking about 'stealing my idea' or copying me, by all means please do. I don't have any intellectual property in this thread, as it's all owned by Blizzard. If anything I hope this fosters more creativity and fan art!
dyonehara
Profile Joined June 2010
United States69 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-01 23:32:19
August 01 2011 23:28 GMT
#122
Just got back from MLG Anaheim with this!

Thank you Idra, Machine, Huk, Naniwa, Jinro, TLO, Select, Ret, Destiny, Socke, Haypro and all the other pro-gamers for providing everyone at MLG Anaheim with such an amazing experience!

Special thanks to Mr. "Incontrol" Robinson. I was afraid I wouldn't get a chance to have you autograph my banner but one of the MLG staff offered to let me go into the players area to meet you. I was deathly afraid you'd turn me away but you were awesome! It was an honor and a pleasure meeting you, as well as all the other players!

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dyonehara
Profile Joined June 2010
United States69 Posts
September 28 2011 19:21 GMT
#123
Update 10/28/2011: Team Evil Geniuses Logo

I'm hoping I can get this signed by all the team members the next time they visit California. Hopefully I can do a few other team logos, get them all signed and mount them up for decoration in my office space. Go Team EG!

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feanor1
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1899 Posts
November 16 2011 18:29 GMT
#124
Wow the MLG National Championship trophies that you did are badass

http://twitter.com/?photo_id=1#!/MLGLee/status/136845657163055105/photo/1

http://www.majorleaguegaming.com/news/mlgs-national-championship-trophies-revealed

Sounds like they took a ton of work and it really shows
Diks
Profile Joined January 2010
Belgium1880 Posts
November 16 2011 18:32 GMT
#125
Awesome work bro !
That last EG piece is just..... wow
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
November 16 2011 18:36 GMT
#126
Dat MLG National Champ Trophies are the sickest fucking trophies I've ever fucking seen. Keep up the great fucking work.
liftlift > tsm
VirgilSC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States6151 Posts
November 16 2011 18:46 GMT
#127
I can't believe this thread hasn't gotten a ton of attention, or a spotlight. This is some incredible work! I'm honestly blown away by this.

The Grandmaster Banner is absolutely amazing, and the signatures make it a piece of artwork any Starcraft fan would love to get their hands on.

The Race Icons are masterfully designed, and look incredible, especially the Zerg one, it actually LOOKS deadly.

The EG Logo is very well done as well, and I wish you luck in acquiring the signatures for it!

I don't even think I need to say anything about the MLG Providence Trophies, they take it all to the next level, and I'm blown away. I really think you should add photos of that to this thread.

Excellent work, I hope this gets a community spotlight, it really deserves one.
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Scalepad
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden366 Posts
November 16 2011 18:49 GMT
#128
WHY HAVE I NOT SEEN THIS BEFORE

jesus fucking christ, that zerg logo thingy looks absolutely amazing.
Dekoth
Profile Joined March 2010
United States527 Posts
November 16 2011 18:54 GMT
#129
Indeed..that Zerg logo is impressive..

It is a shame TL can't work out something with this guy to take a small cut and make these awesome pieces available for sale. I would kill for one of those on my desk.
sc2pal
Profile Joined February 2011
Poland624 Posts
November 16 2011 18:57 GMT
#130
damn this is too cool i want it so much, very good work sir
VirgilSC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States6151 Posts
November 16 2011 19:08 GMT
#131
Does anyone know who would be able to Spotlight this? I really think this deserves a lot more attention.
Clarity Gaming #1 Fan | Avid MTG Grinder | @VirgilSC2
dyonehara
Profile Joined June 2010
United States69 Posts
November 16 2011 20:13 GMT
#132
Thanks for the kind words everyone, I really appreciate it!

Here are some photos of the MLG National Championship trophies during the build process:

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Dekoth
Profile Joined March 2010
United States527 Posts
November 17 2011 13:50 GMT
#133
MLG trophy..and something you can defend yourself with all in one. :D

TYJ.Aoy
Profile Joined March 2011
Brazil1265 Posts
November 18 2011 01:56 GMT
#134
Amazing.
Al Bundy
Profile Joined April 2010
7257 Posts
November 18 2011 02:00 GMT
#135
Absolutely beautiful. Thanks for sharing
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Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
November 18 2011 02:02 GMT
#136
Absolutely fantastic work. They all look rather sharp though ^^ hope you don't have an accident carrying them around!

I couldn't even imagine doing this myself. Props.
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Mysticesper
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1183 Posts
November 18 2011 02:02 GMT
#137
That is pretty sweet. Big props to MLG for allowing you the opportunity to show off your craft to the community & more.
Crownlol
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3726 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-25 12:56:23
April 25 2012 12:51 GMT
#138
These are very, very impressive- I can't believe I didn't know about them earlier!

I'm no intellectual property attorney, but "art inspired by" other art can tend to be a grey area. For example, you aren't claiming to be making "Official Blizzard Zergo Logos". You're making aluminum sculptures inspired by the Zerg logo- as long as you're not mass-producing or marketing them, I think you might be ok.

On that vein, will you take commissions to pay for your time and material cost, but not actually sell the sculpture?

I only ask because these are amazing and I want one! If you aren't comfortable with it, don't let us push you

*Edit* I like these so much I'd put one on my brand-new car. I totally would.
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Nuclease
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1049 Posts
May 07 2012 02:00 GMT
#139
So dope
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icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
May 07 2012 02:07 GMT
#140
that detail O_O
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imanoobcs
Profile Joined January 2012
184 Posts
May 07 2012 04:58 GMT
#141
Your work is truly amazing sir.
Demonhunter04
Profile Joined July 2011
1530 Posts
May 07 2012 05:07 GMT
#142
Lol when I saw the terran logo one I was reminded of Bruce Wayne crafting his bat-shuriken.
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