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Beyonder
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands15103 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-10-01 23:30:47
October 01 2004 23:28 GMT
#1
Sucky for WC3, mTw and for the undead race. This guy was a rising star with plenty of potential.

It's not really a big deal, I just got bored of the game after ESWC. This has nothing to do with the new patch, or any problems really, if anyone is wondering. Plus, this year's schoolwork is heavier and piles upon the college application process," Aether says.


Full article: http://www.wcreplays.com/ - very interesting read!
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SoleSteeler
Profile Joined April 2003
Canada5449 Posts
October 01 2004 23:32 GMT
#2
aw =[
hasuwar
Profile Joined April 2003
7365 Posts
October 01 2004 23:33 GMT
#3
Better to retire as a king, than quit as a n00b
Diablo3 ID: Exalted#1710 -------R.I.P. http://hasuwar.isgsa.org. Much love to Toptalent
BroOd
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Austin10833 Posts
October 01 2004 23:34 GMT
#4
Seemed like a cool guy. I met him @ NY/NJ WCG. The one thing that surprised me was how supportive his parents were of his gaming. There were there, cheering him on, talking to him between games. I don't know two much about the WC3 scene, but he seemed like a big-time player.
ModeratorSIRL and JLIG.
chicken`
Profile Joined January 2004
Germany3478 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-10-01 23:41:00
October 01 2004 23:35 GMT
#5
who fucking cares about w3 >>

[Bey: Who cares about you as a poster, see you!]
jeremy clarkson = god
Beyonder
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands15103 Posts
October 01 2004 23:37 GMT
#6
His achievements are listed on the site, he was good, but imo more importantly a growing player with potential. His skills against Human were very strong! mTw will miss him bigtime.

He looks Asian, so something tells me he has Asian parents. That must explain the full support :D
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Maynard
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States889 Posts
October 01 2004 23:38 GMT
#7
I find it somewhat arrogant and ridiculous when someone announces their "Retirement" from gaming. I'm sorry i just do..
Frits
Profile Joined March 2003
11782 Posts
October 01 2004 23:47 GMT
#8
Never even heard about him, but well ... if it's bad for the wc3 community I feel pretty bad about it.
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
October 01 2004 23:48 GMT
#9
Heh, if Boxer quit I'd like to know.

Same if anyone I know would quit or if some prominent player quits.. Instead of wondering where did they go etc. Reduces threads with that theme too~~
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
Beyonder
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands15103 Posts
October 01 2004 23:50 GMT
#10
On October 02 2004 08:38 Maynard wrote:
I find it somewhat arrogant and ridiculous when someone announces their "Retirement" from gaming. I'm sorry i just do..


It's a good point, but you got to realise that WC3 is a BIG THING and certain gamers are tiny celebrities with fanboys who would really want to know such a thing. That and sites want to cover such stuff, people like to be heard, etc etc!
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Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
October 01 2004 23:51 GMT
#11
No it is a horrible point
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
Pob
Profile Joined February 2004
880 Posts
October 01 2004 23:52 GMT
#12
On October 02 2004 08:38 Maynard wrote:
I find it somewhat arrogant and ridiculous when someone announces their "Retirement" from gaming. I'm sorry i just do..


Agreed
Beyonder
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands15103 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-10-01 23:54:21
October 01 2004 23:53 GMT
#13
On October 02 2004 08:51 FrozenArbiter wrote:
No it is a horrible point


OK perhaps it isnt. Though I understand it, I don't agree :D Especially if you see what gaming has become!
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OhThatDang
Profile Joined August 2004
United States4685 Posts
October 02 2004 00:04 GMT
#14
like sc players announcing their retirement :D just dissapear we will find out later
troi oi thang map nai!!!
SweeTLemonS[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
11739 Posts
October 02 2004 00:11 GMT
#15
Unless it's a huge name progamer, such as Boxer, then announcing a "retirement" is pretty dumb.
I'm never gonna know you now \ But I'm gonna love you anyhow.
Beyonder
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands15103 Posts
October 02 2004 00:14 GMT
#16
On October 02 2004 09:11 SickofLife wrote:
Unless it's a huge name progamer, such as Boxer, then announcing a "retirement" is pretty dumb.

why?
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OhThatDang
Profile Joined August 2004
United States4685 Posts
October 02 2004 00:18 GMT
#17
if boxer announces retirement its kinda good cause he can use his old age for better things in life other then getting a red spot on his wrist
troi oi thang map nai!!!
Gryffindor_us
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
United States5606 Posts
October 02 2004 00:21 GMT
#18
I hereby retire from Fastest Money map :D.
Remember 11-12-04. 이윤열 ~. |||| ZerO, IriS, JangBi, Stork, BackHo! Mah Jae Yoon is no longer a feared entity.
Ack1027
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States7873 Posts
October 02 2004 00:23 GMT
#19
On October 02 2004 09:21 Gryffindor_us wrote:
I hereby retire from Fastest Money map :D.


Oh no! My gold.
NeverTheEndlessWiz
Profile Joined November 2003
Singapore827 Posts
October 02 2004 00:27 GMT
#20
starhunter retired too many times hahaa...........
Retired Brood War player / WCG SG Top 8 for 2002, 2003, 2004, retired, then made minor comeback to Top 8 at 2008. 2009 = bleh xD
St3MoR
Profile Joined November 2002
Spain3256 Posts
October 02 2004 00:28 GMT
#21
aether was good, even if i dont follow w3 now, its sad when good players who have provided me such a good moments through replays retire

gl Aether
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Asta
Profile Joined October 2002
Germany3491 Posts
October 02 2004 00:31 GMT
#22
aether is posting here, right? maybe he just realized wc3 was boring when he heard ppl talk about bw. =)

and i don't think it's silly to announce when you retire from gaming as long as there are ppl who care (which is definately the case here).
SweeTLemonS[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
11739 Posts
October 02 2004 00:37 GMT
#23
On October 02 2004 09:14 Beyonder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2004 09:11 SickofLife wrote:
Unless it's a huge name progamer, such as Boxer, then announcing a "retirement" is pretty dumb.

why?


Because of the unimportance of people to the game. If one guy who has absolutely no accomplishments announces his retirement from a game, it's pretty stupid.
I'm never gonna know you now \ But I'm gonna love you anyhow.
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
October 02 2004 00:41 GMT
#24
Wait.. One second ago you said huge progamer name like boxer now you say if the person has any accomplishments it is okay..?

Drone isn't a huge name (compared to boxer), would you care if he quit?
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
Beyonder
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands15103 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-10-02 00:54:13
October 02 2004 00:52 GMT
#25
On October 02 2004 09:37 SickofLife wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2004 09:14 Beyonder wrote:
On October 02 2004 09:11 SickofLife wrote:
Unless it's a huge name progamer, such as Boxer, then announcing a "retirement" is pretty dumb.

why?


Because of the unimportance of people to the game. If one guy who has absolutely no accomplishments announces his retirement from a game, it's pretty stupid.


He has plenty of accomplishments & fans, he's a member of one of the best teams out there (They won WC3L last season)

That and a person doesnt need accomplishments to be a big shot in a gaming community
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SweeTLemonS[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
11739 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-10-02 00:58:17
October 02 2004 00:57 GMT
#26
On October 02 2004 09:41 FrozenArbiter wrote:
Wait.. One second ago you said huge progamer name like boxer now you say if the person has any accomplishments it is okay..?

Drone isn't a huge name (compared to boxer), would you care if he quit?


I said, "if a guy has absolutely no accomplishments... it'd be stupid." That's not the same as saying a guy who has any accomplishments can announce a retirement.

I wouldn't care in the least if Drone stopped playing BW.

EDIT: Bey, in case there was confusion, I wasn't saying this guy shouldn't have announced his retirement, as I don't follow the WC3 community.
I'm never gonna know you now \ But I'm gonna love you anyhow.
TvP On Guillo
Profile Joined April 2004
Denmark646 Posts
October 02 2004 00:59 GMT
#27
On October 02 2004 09:14 Beyonder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2004 09:11 SickofLife wrote:
Unless it's a huge name progamer, such as Boxer, then announcing a "retirement" is pretty dumb.

why?


Because mediocre players are "retiring" all the time.
Deeply earnest and thoughtful people stand on shaky footing with the public - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
Beyonder
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands15103 Posts
October 02 2004 01:01 GMT
#28
OK, sorry. Am not totally following everything as I'm getting ready for a party and am about to be picked up

I still stand by that you can be a big shot even if you don't really have any accomplishments though, even as a gamer. If a person has people that want to know when and why he quits, then why not write it.
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InsanitY
Profile Joined March 2003
Germany352 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-10-02 01:04:38
October 02 2004 01:04 GMT
#29
pretty crappy for mTw .... wizard leaves and plays for SK.int, now aether gives up playing, the only foreign guy they have left is ghostridah and that guy suxx like hell ...
wtfwjd
Profile Joined April 2004
United States226 Posts
October 02 2004 01:09 GMT
#30
i'm like 0-5 vs ghostridah, I guess I should just announce my retirement since I really suck =[
The magnitude of your illegitimate rise will parallel that of your fall
HeMaN
Profile Joined October 2002
275 Posts
October 02 2004 01:11 GMT
#31
Aether is not mediocre.

Him retiring should definitely be recognized. Also, wcreplays.com had been doing article series with him for a time, even more the reason to announce his retirement.
PanoRaMa
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States5069 Posts
October 02 2004 01:12 GMT
#32
i posted about this like 6 days ago in an obscure post on the MaDFroG thread.. no one noticed ^^

Anyway.. most top american players agree this game is dying. And a lot of people are quitting too, Aether [...]


Poor Aether..does he still post here under requiem?
oPtioNaLk
Profile Joined September 2004
Korea (South)564 Posts
October 02 2004 01:54 GMT
#33
Aether is one of if not the best player in the US. He climbed the wc3 ladder quickly, but he's a senior now and the college process is taking up a lot of his time.

I asked him the other day if he'd go back to wc3 when he's done with high school [me and him go to the same school] and he said he wasn't sure. It's not a no so for all you Aether fans cross your fingers.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
October 02 2004 01:58 GMT
#34
gL Jeff with whatever you're going to do now. ^^
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requiem
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
United States268 Posts
October 02 2004 08:24 GMT
#35
heh, i didn't want to post anything about it, but my manager rax informed kidarctica (the person who runs the news on wcreplays.com) and then she pretty much got some statements outta me. they reasoned that there might me people asking questions about where i disappeared off to all the time, so i thought alright i'll confirm it for them then.
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Make7UpYours
Profile Joined October 2003
893 Posts
October 02 2004 08:30 GMT
#36
On October 02 2004 08:37 Beyonder wrote:
His achievements are listed on the site, he was good, but imo more importantly a growing player with potential. His skills against Human were very strong! mTw will miss him bigtime.

He looks Asian, so something tells me he has Asian parents. That must explain the full support :D


I'm pretty sure he's Chinese. That was also what kept him from going to WCG USA finals since he doesn't have US citizenship.
Na[12]Sil
Profile Joined June 2003
United States192 Posts
October 02 2004 08:38 GMT
#37
man i guess that sux for wc3 o well BW for life!
I bust mine so I can kick yours Tough times dont last forever Tough people do. AKA on USwest: ObscureLogic
mindspike
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Canada1902 Posts
October 02 2004 09:00 GMT
#38
On October 02 2004 17:24 requiem wrote:
heh, i didn't want to post anything about it, but my manager rax informed kidarctica (the person who runs the news on wcreplays.com) and then she pretty much got some statements outta me. they reasoned that there might me people asking questions about where i disappeared off to all the time, so i thought alright i'll confirm it for them then.


good luck in school
too bad e-sports is nowhere near big enough to support pro-gaming
zerg/human - vancouver, canada
SpuniasauR
Profile Joined September 2003
Australia1500 Posts
October 02 2004 23:55 GMT
#39
On October 02 2004 18:00 mindspike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2004 17:24 requiem wrote:
heh, i didn't want to post anything about it, but my manager rax informed kidarctica (the person who runs the news on wcreplays.com) and then she pretty much got some statements outta me. they reasoned that there might me people asking questions about where i disappeared off to all the time, so i thought alright i'll confirm it for them then.


good luck in school
too bad e-sports is nowhere near big enough to support pro-gaming


agreed gl dude. btw i loved "ask aether"

and for anyone who doesnt know, very big player, not in korea. but id say he's top10 non-korea in terms of warcraft. thats achievement enough, seeing that korea doesnt have the monopoly on gosu's when it comes to warcraft : ) .
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