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blomsterjohn
Norway476 Posts
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DwD
Sweden8621 Posts
On August 19 2012 22:24 blomsterjohn wrote: uuuhm, did assange just say that UK special forces tried to enter the embassy? He sure did. He said they were in the fire escape stairs. | ||
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zeru
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Kukaracha
France1954 Posts
On August 19 2012 22:05 one-one-one wrote: Mods. I have not been blessed with a report button , but for the sake of this discussion I would like someone to take a look at the last 5-10 pages. The problem is that the same false claims and irrelevant points are being brought up time and time again. [...] It is getting very tiresome and it definitely lowers the quality of TL as a discussion forum if this ignorance is allowed to prevail. It doesn't work because either sides don't use the same premises, and those are never adressed as the last... well, all the pages have been factual talk. DIfferent perspectives will give different interpretations, thus talking about facts will only result in a back-and-forth conversation where the camera rapidly pans from right to left and from left to right. Now, this doesn't mean anyone here is "ignorant", but let's ignore this because well, accusations of ignorance are internet debates 101 material. My suggestion is that you stop posting because a) forums will be forums (a "real" conversation in real life is already hard to have), b) posting too much in "General" is often a waste of time (and if you see the character of those who do you'll feel bad for taking part in it), c) you're not achieving anything. I know I was (or am?) guilty of b) and I feel bad.  The only use for internet debates is to learn and shape your opinion in contact of others. Going further is useless. | ||
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one-one-one
Sweden551 Posts
On August 19 2012 22:18 blomsterjohn wrote: Though, it would be quite interesting to see what would happen if he went to sweden, got extradited on some thin lapdog reasoning, and sentences to life in prison (or even death), in terms of what kind of protests that would lead to could be a pretty insane martyr Or if he went to Sweden for questioning, the prosecutor closes the case and Julian goes to enjoy his "freedom" in Ecuador while the Wikileaks servers are still up and running on Swedish soil. | ||
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blomsterjohn
Norway476 Posts
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DwD
Sweden8621 Posts
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one-one-one
Sweden551 Posts
On August 19 2012 22:29 blomsterjohn wrote: ye but that would just be boring now wouldnt it, sillypants Boring? It would be anything but boring. I would laugh so hard and probably be giggling nervously everywhere I went for a good couple of days | ||
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blomsterjohn
Norway476 Posts
On August 19 2012 22:30 DwD wrote: It's quite odd to hear Assange praise countries which are doing things he is trying to fight. Free press etc. Shit like this doesn't exist in these countries. You should have a look into the progressive movements in latin and south america, there's quite some things going on there from what I read | ||
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zeru
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one-one-one
Sweden551 Posts
USA confirming that there are no charges against him is actually a neat solution. | ||
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zalz
Netherlands3704 Posts
Talk about no-charisma. It doesn't really show in interviews, but his delivery is just dead. | ||
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LunaSea
Luxembourg369 Posts
On August 19 2012 22:32 blomsterjohn wrote: You should have a look into the progressive movements in latin and south america, there's quite some things going on there from what I read It's not odd at all. When there are difficult times, you're taking every help you can get. We don't know if he sincerely supports Ecuador. In some ways he has to thank / praise the Ecuadorian officials for helping him. You can't go to the Ecuadorian embassy and then shit on how the country isn't free or doesn't have free speech / free press. | ||
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LunaSea
Luxembourg369 Posts
On August 19 2012 22:37 one-one-one wrote: USA confirming that there are no charges against him is actually a neat solution. The delusion is strong in you. | ||
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accela
Greece314 Posts
On August 19 2012 22:30 DwD wrote: It's quite odd to hear Assange praise countries which are doing things he is trying to fight. Free press etc. Shit like this doesn't exist in these countries. As has nicely been said on twitter: "Ecuador is imperfect - Sweden is imperfect - the US and the UK are imperfect. Who took steps today to improve things? Ecuador." | ||
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one-one-one
Sweden551 Posts
??? That is what he asked for himself, no ? | ||
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LunaSea
Luxembourg369 Posts
On August 19 2012 22:46 one-one-one wrote: ??? That is what he asked for himself, no ? It is, but the USA didn't confirm anything. | ||
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one-one-one
Sweden551 Posts
On August 19 2012 22:52 LunaSea wrote: It is, but the USA didn't confirm anything. Dude, it is like 20 minutes since his demand  | ||
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LunaSea
Luxembourg369 Posts
On August 19 2012 22:53 one-one-one wrote: Dude, it is like 20 minutes since his demand Yeah I watched it you know. And the keyword in your answer is "demand". It's a demand. It isn't confirming anything like I said before. | ||
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zalz
Netherlands3704 Posts
On August 19 2012 22:43 accela wrote: As has nicely been said on twitter: "Ecuador is imperfect - Sweden is imperfect - the US and the UK are imperfect. Who took steps today to improve things? Ecuador." A thief is a criminal. A murderer is a criminal. Ergo, all criminals are the same. By covering up gross human rights violations under the denomination "imperfect," the writer attempts to make you ignore just how terrible Ecuador's stance on, for example, free-journalism is. http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/08/29/us-ecuador-journalist-idUSTRE77S5AI20110829 But, you know: Sweden is imperfect, North-Korea is imperfect, so what is the difference, really? | ||
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