EPTU.S. Midterm Elections 2010 - Page 21
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
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angelicfolly
United States292 Posts
On November 03 2010 14:10 Romantic wrote: I am saying Democrats have done and will do more to reign in the deficit than Republicans ever have  kk, think all you want if you will. So was not what I was responding to.... | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
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Romantic
United States1844 Posts
On a personal note, Washington's 8th district Reichert (R) vs DelBene (D) is a Reichert win, 54 to 46 %. Maybe next time. | ||
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bbq ftw
United States139 Posts
and the House will be much less likely to give it to them. One senses some divine justice in this. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
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crayhasissues
United States682 Posts
On November 03 2010 14:10 Romantic wrote: I am saying Democrats have done and will do more to reign in the deficit than Republicans ever have Spend 5 trill, reign in the deficit. Thats how it gets done now. How about, spend less than you tax. | ||
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Losticus
United States62 Posts
Side note: I don't get the cynical comments about D and R's being the same, hating the two-party system, etc. First of all, I agreed with you. I am an independent and I was just as angry at the Repubs as I was the Dems. But guess what? This election was a direct rebuke to that status quo. The Tea Party movement is basically a libertarian conservative one that took back the GOP. If you lean in that direction at all, I'm not sure how you can remain critical. The GOP establishment are scared shitless, and for good reason. The TP proved, despite endless ridicule and smear, that you can in fact make a difference, and you can change the political dynamics in this country. Regardless of whether you agree with their ideals, this impact and exercise in democracy is laudable. I know the O'Donnell and Angle types get the most attention (of course), but that's not representative of the movement at all. Marco Rubio, Allen West, Ron Johnson, Paul Ryan (policy proposals linked in previous page by another poster) -- that is the Tea Party -- and you better believe they are determined to make a difference and NOT be more of the same. Because if they are, they'll be gone next. The American people have finally spoken, and we want fiscal responsibility. Your move, Obama. | ||
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Nitrogen
United States5345 Posts
On November 03 2010 13:27 NovaTheFeared wrote: I got through on that site, 16% reporting. Gavin Newsom (Dem) 959,637 46.8% Abel Maldonado (Rep) 887,000 43.3% Jim King (AI) 39,942 2.0% James "Jimi" Castillo (Grn) 24,332 1.1% Pamela J. Brown (Lib) 115,707 5.7% C.T. Weber (P&F) 24,017 1.1% thanks, i've only been able to get through to that site like once t.t | ||
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Chaoz
United States507 Posts
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Nitrogen
United States5345 Posts
On November 03 2010 15:07 Chaoz wrote: Where can I find Prop. results for California? http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2010/results/state/#CA | ||
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Mindcrime
United States6899 Posts
On November 03 2010 15:03 Losticus wrote: I know the O'Donnell and Angle types get the most attention (of course), but that's not representative of the movement at all. Marco Rubio, Allen West, Ron Johnson, Paul Ryan (policy proposals linked in previous page by another poster) -- that is the Tea Party -- and you better believe they are determined to make a difference and NOT be more of the same. Allen West should be in prison. | ||
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crayhasissues
United States682 Posts
For keeping you safe? Pretty sure our enemies aren't giving us any mercy. | ||
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Mindcrime
United States6899 Posts
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OneOther
United States10774 Posts
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NovaTheFeared
United States7229 Posts
Colorado: Bennett (D): 708,661 Buck (R): 714,808 +6,147 Washington: Murray (D): 721,742 +14,261 Rossi (R): 707,481 | ||
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TOloseGT
United States1145 Posts
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I_Love_Bacon
United States5765 Posts
On November 03 2010 13:30 Iodem wrote: Preferential voting would be awesome. It's a shame it'll never happen, and for that reason, 3rd parties will be viable in the US. + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://randomoverload.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/9118a56c30arties.jpg.jpg) or this, and just have everyone run as independents.Adams was a bigger opponent of democratic parties, but your point stands I suppose. I don't recall an election in my lifetime where I was happy with the outcome. All it does is remind me how ridiculous this country is when it comes to politics... Although I shouldn't judge America so harshly. Politics are ridiculous everywhere. | ||
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Mindcrime
United States6899 Posts
On November 03 2010 15:40 I_Love_Bacon wrote: Adams was a bigger opponent of democratic parties, but your point stands I suppose. If you mean Adams was an opponent of the Democratic-Republicans, then yeah. He certainly wasn't an opponent of his own party. | ||
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I_Love_Bacon
United States5765 Posts
On November 03 2010 15:45 Mindcrime wrote: If you mean Adams was an opponent of the Democratic-Republicans, then yeah. He certainly wasn't an opponent of his own party. He was about as a very moderate Federalist. Lemme' find the quote... “There is nothing which I dread so much as a division of the republic into two great parties, each arranged under its leader, and concerting measures in opposition to each other. This, in my humble apprehension, it to be dreaded as the greatest political evil under our Constitution.” Obviously he wasn't some naive idiot who knew the Republicans were getting ready to form against him, but he had spoken out against democratic measures a lot because of the divisions and strife it would cause. Washington largely spoke out against political parties due to his own Federalist leanings (Hamilton's whispering from behind) and his absolute hatred (and hypocritical view) of the democratic-republican parties after the Whiskey Rebellion. Generally speaking, his largest argument against him was on his way out of his office... and the time for partisan talk is always at the start or end of one's presidency. I suppose I could actually argue myself in circles around this subject. I don't think many deep thinkers are in favor of political parties, but all see them as a means to an end and while on the cusp of power, are always quick to embrace any edge that might be granted to them. | ||
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