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Half
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2554 Posts
September 29 2010 00:24 GMT
#21
Related

http://hipsterhitler.com/
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caelym
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6421 Posts
September 29 2010 00:24 GMT
#22
On September 29 2010 09:19 choboPEon wrote:
How to tell there's a damn good chance you are a hipster: you feel it necessary to write an entire article about the "hipster phenomenon". Seriously, the majority of people who I see saying they hate hipsters are obnoxious people themselves, either matching the hipster stereotype exactly or are the type of people who can't go a day without making snickering remarks about generalized stereotypes.

IE people who get off on snark. My god, there are trends and people wear skinny jeans! So fucking what.

lol you mad?

it's amusing to poke fun at how counter-culture is becoming mass culture
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EndlessRain
Profile Joined July 2009
140 Posts
September 29 2010 00:27 GMT
#23
Seriously, I hate them as much as you do but of all the things hipsters are something you think is disturbing about US culture? Hipsters exist in practically all developed nations so it's hardly an isolated US thing. What IS disturbing is the fact that the majority of Americans are fat and don't believe in evolution but that's for another thread.
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Murderotica
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Vatican City State2594 Posts
September 29 2010 00:28 GMT
#24
On September 29 2010 09:10 Kennigit wrote:
Hipsters are the reason i think we need mandatory military service immediately after high school. That or labor camps.


Maybe just a better education system and more stringent social standards.
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keynest
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States57 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-29 00:35:23
September 29 2010 00:31 GMT
#25
On September 29 2010 09:10 Kennigit wrote:
Hipsters are the reason i think we need mandatory military service immediately after high school. That or labor camps.



Haha...

Yeah but it's not really funny when I actually do have to do that 2 years of mandatory military service.

I wish I had the luxury of being a slacker who pretends to be rebeilious and be against the mainstream in a totally conforming way. Sadly, I got a dynastic Communist country to worry about. Curse you! Kim Jung-il and Kim jung-un

I am telling you these suburban middle-income white kids don't know how good they have it.
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The_Pacifist
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States540 Posts
September 29 2010 00:31 GMT
#26
Hipsters in the US tend to be middle class teens and young adults. Despite having no full time jobs (are students), they are financially well off (parents pay for their lifestyle) and have plenty of disposable income. They also have very few responsibilities (no families to care for) and way too much free time. Sound familiar? Because this is about the same demographic as TL.

The hipsters decide to spend all that spare time and extra resources keeping up with the latest in youth culture. In the end, they are not that different from many of us on TL who are also young adults or teens with way too much free time and comfort. The difference is that we invest it in video games while the hipsters invest that time in whatever happens to be trendy that week. Like them, we waste time on something that ultimately has no actual return value (unless you go pro, playing Starcraft all day is just as unfruitful as going 'hipster.')

But the part I think that pisses people off the most is the attitude of hipsters: the way they talk, classify people, try to be as exclusive as possible, etc.

In reality, the hipsters are really no different than we TLers for the most part. And to look down on the hipsters for their elitist attitudes and fruitless lifestyles is to be hypocritical and do exactly what we despise the most in the "hipsters."

The only real difference is perspective.
shieldbreak
Profile Joined February 2010
United States406 Posts
September 29 2010 00:32 GMT
#27
Ahh yes...Idiots. I know them well. Can't live with em but they won't get the hell out, so just deal with it for now.
Many a sleepless nights were spent doing absolutely nothing.
LegendaryZ
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1583 Posts
September 29 2010 00:32 GMT
#28
The only hipsters I have a problem with are the kids in their freshman year of college who decide that they want to be self-righteous, arrogant, asshats that feel that they are entitled to judge the rest of the world and tell them how they should live because they happened to hear something they think was incredibly insightful in Philosophy 101 or something...

I couldn't care less about someone deciding to dress like an idiot because that's his/her own business, but I have a problem with a pothead that parties all day and night on mommy and daddy's money giving me crap because I don't drive a hybrid, buy organic, or because I don't mind shopping at WalMart if it will save me some money.
chobopeon
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States7342 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-29 00:35:09
September 29 2010 00:33 GMT
#29
On September 29 2010 09:24 caelym wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2010 09:19 choboPEon wrote:
How to tell there's a damn good chance you are a hipster: you feel it necessary to write an entire article about the "hipster phenomenon". Seriously, the majority of people who I see saying they hate hipsters are obnoxious people themselves, either matching the hipster stereotype exactly or are the type of people who can't go a day without making snickering remarks about generalized stereotypes.

IE people who get off on snark. My god, there are trends and people wear skinny jeans! So fucking what.

lol you mad?

it's amusing to poke fun at how counter-culture is becoming mass culture


It was amusing a few years ago, maybe for the first 3 million wink-and-jokes, but now it's a word which has virtually no meaning or purpose except to facilitate making snide remarks. It's dumb. There's a reason respected newspapers and other media outlets are actively trying to remove the use of the word hipster from their work. It's because it doesn't mean shit except that some snide remark is about to follow.

I admit I'm coming across as 'mad' but I live in Brooklyn, apparently the hipster capital of the universe, and I've been hearing these annoying jokes from every direction for years and years. Trust me, you don't know what it's like. If you had to hear the same people make the same tired jokes about the punching bag hipsters and think 'god damn I am clever', you'd go a little loopy too.

Just read this thread. The word has no specific meaning. Almost every post has a different definition and it's all vague and it all comes down to one thing: Young person I'd like to insult? Hipster.
:O
KurtistheTurtle
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1966 Posts
September 29 2010 00:34 GMT
#30
On September 29 2010 09:27 EndlessRain wrote:
Seriously, I hate them as much as you do but of all the things hipsters are something you think is disturbing about US culture? Hipsters exist in practically all developed nations so it's hardly an isolated US thing. What IS disturbing is the fact that the majority of Americans are fat and don't believe in evolution but that's for another thread.

well to this end, the title I wanted was "Hipsters"

but I needed a longer one so I typed in " -- A disturbing look at US culture" or whatever I said
“Reject your sense of injury and the injury itself disappears."
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-29 00:38:08
September 29 2010 00:35 GMT
#31
On September 29 2010 09:31 The_Pacifist wrote:
Hipsters in the US tend to be middle class teens and young adults. Despite having no full time jobs (are students), they are financially well off (parents pay for their lifestyle) and have plenty of disposable income. They also have very few responsibilities (no families to care for) and way too much free time. Sound familiar? Because this is about the same demographic as TL.



How are you so sure this is the makeup of TL? A website with a large number of long term posters and young adults on their own.

On September 29 2010 09:33 choboPEon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2010 09:24 caelym wrote:
On September 29 2010 09:19 choboPEon wrote:
How to tell there's a damn good chance you are a hipster: you feel it necessary to write an entire article about the "hipster phenomenon". Seriously, the majority of people who I see saying they hate hipsters are obnoxious people themselves, either matching the hipster stereotype exactly or are the type of people who can't go a day without making snickering remarks about generalized stereotypes.

IE people who get off on snark. My god, there are trends and people wear skinny jeans! So fucking what.

lol you mad?

it's amusing to poke fun at how counter-culture is becoming mass culture


It was amusing a few years ago, maybe for the first 3 million wink-and-jokes, but now it's a word which has virtually no meaning or purpose except to facilitate making snide remarks. It's dumb. There's a reason respected newspapers and other media outlets are actively trying to remove the use of the word hipster from their work. It's because it doesn't mean shit except that some snide remark is about to follow.

I admit I'm coming across as 'mad' but I live in Brooklyn, apparently the hipster capital of the universe, and I've been hearing these annoying jokes from every direction for years and years. Trust me, you don't know what it's like. If you had to hear the same people make the same tired jokes about the punching bag hipsters and think 'god damn I am clever', you'd go a little loopy too.

Just read this thread. The word has no specific meaning. Almost every post has a different definition and it's all vague and it all comes down to one thing: Young person I'd like to insult? Hipster.



I live in Brooklyn also but my encounters with the Hipster culture is very limited. I'm not even sure what classifies a person as being a Hipster aside from their choice of fashion.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
No_Roo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States905 Posts
September 29 2010 00:36 GMT
#32
On September 29 2010 09:31 The_Pacifist wrote:
Like them, we waste time on something that ultimately has no actual return value (unless you go pro, playing Starcraft all day is just as unfruitful as going 'hipster.')
The only real difference is perspective.


I completely disagree with the premise that regular playing of Starcraft or strategy games in general offers "no actual return value". There are numerous quantifiable benefits to be had without winning money, such as improving dexterity, mental focus, multitasking, critical thought, crisis management, and many many others. These attributes are applicable to many important aspects of daily life.
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muta_micro
Profile Joined February 2010
United States183 Posts
September 29 2010 00:36 GMT
#33
On September 29 2010 09:10 Kennigit wrote:
Hipsters are the reason i think we need mandatory military service immediately after high school. That or labor camps.


This. Hipsters, scene kids, goths, and stupid athletes are the scum of the earth. In fact anybody who isn't a nerd or a chill dude or a pothead or something, I immediately consider to be less than human.
You know when you see a planet and you see that light, that planet isn't even there thats just a light, that's just your neighbor shining a flashlight into your backyard looking for coons.
LegendaryZ
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1583 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-29 00:39:43
September 29 2010 00:38 GMT
#34
On September 29 2010 09:33 choboPEon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2010 09:24 caelym wrote:
On September 29 2010 09:19 choboPEon wrote:
How to tell there's a damn good chance you are a hipster: you feel it necessary to write an entire article about the "hipster phenomenon". Seriously, the majority of people who I see saying they hate hipsters are obnoxious people themselves, either matching the hipster stereotype exactly or are the type of people who can't go a day without making snickering remarks about generalized stereotypes.

IE people who get off on snark. My god, there are trends and people wear skinny jeans! So fucking what.

lol you mad?

it's amusing to poke fun at how counter-culture is becoming mass culture


I live in Brooklyn, apparently the hipster capital of the universe


Umm... San Francisco? (Or anywhere in California for the matter...) Seriously, like the only part of BK that's anything like that last time I checked was like WB....
chobopeon
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States7342 Posts
September 29 2010 00:38 GMT
#35
On September 29 2010 09:36 muta_micro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2010 09:10 Kennigit wrote:
Hipsters are the reason i think we need mandatory military service immediately after high school. That or labor camps.


This. Hipsters, scene kids, goths, and stupid athletes are the scum of the earth. In fact anybody who isn't a nerd or a chill dude or a pothead or something, I immediately consider to be less than human.


haha
:O
The_Pacifist
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States540 Posts
September 29 2010 00:38 GMT
#36
On September 29 2010 09:35 Ace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2010 09:31 The_Pacifist wrote:
Hipsters in the US tend to be middle class teens and young adults. Despite having no full time jobs (are students), they are financially well off (parents pay for their lifestyle) and have plenty of disposable income. They also have very few responsibilities (no families to care for) and way too much free time. Sound familiar? Because this is about the same demographic as TL.



How are you so sure this is the makeup of TL? A website with a large number of long term posters and young adults on their own.


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=119751

This is a poll of TL conducted for this year. As you can see, the vast majority of TLers fall within the teen/young adult age group.
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
September 29 2010 00:38 GMT
#37
On September 29 2010 09:10 Kennigit wrote:
Hipsters are the reason i think we need mandatory military service immediately after high school. That or labor camps.



Or concentration camps.
HelterSkelter
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada11 Posts
September 29 2010 00:38 GMT
#38
Hipsters in the US tend to be middle class teens and young adults. Despite having no full time jobs (are students), they are financially well off (parents pay for their lifestyle) and have plenty of disposable income. They also have very few responsibilities (no families to care for) and way too much free time. Sound familiar? Because this is about the same demographic as TL.

The hipsters decide to spend all that spare time and extra resources keeping up with the latest in youth culture. In the end, they are not that different from many of us on TL who are also young adults or teens with way too much free time and comfort. The difference is that we invest it in video games while the hipsters invest that time in whatever happens to be trendy that week. Like them, we waste time on something that ultimately has no actual return value (unless you go pro, playing Starcraft all day is just as unfruitful as going 'hipster.')

But the part I think that pisses people off the most is the attitude of hipsters: the way they talk, classify people, try to be as exclusive as possible, etc.

In reality, the hipsters are really no different than we TLers for the most part. And to look down on the hipsters for their elitist attitudes and fruitless lifestyles is to be hypocritical and do exactly what we despise the most in the "hipsters."

The only real difference is perspective.


MIND = BLOAN
keynest
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States57 Posts
September 29 2010 00:39 GMT
#39
Inaunthetic counter cultures, defanged rebels, Hippies just in it for dope and parties....

They are gonna be around. So are people who are mad about them and make a sweeping criticism.

I suppose this discussion isn't so productive.
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LunarC
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States1186 Posts
September 29 2010 00:39 GMT
#40
Well, there are trash culture fads and then there are actual counterculture movements such as the USSR-occupied East Germany underground punk culture and the more recent English South Asian club culture. Each was a declaration of identity and was dissent against the established norms of government and society, be it the oppressive USSR policies or social discrimination against South Asians in England.

The crucial things hipsters lack are a clear reason to do what they do and the willingness to take pride in it. Obviously, this is due to the fact that the "hipster" movement is neither a productive nor meaningful endeavor to do anything nor does it have a clear message.
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