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1. This is not a "do my homework for me" thread. If you have specific questions, ask, but don't post an assignment or homework problem and expect an exact solution.
2. No recruiting for your cockamamie projects (you won't replace facebook with 3 dudes you found on the internet and $20)
3. If you can't articulate why a language is bad, don't start slinging shit about it. Just remember that nothing is worse than making CSS IE6 compatible.
4. Use [code] tags to format code blocks.
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17871 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-31 15:11:30
October 31 2014 15:06 GMT
#10801
On October 31 2014 23:32 Nesserev wrote:
EDIT2: Question to the C wizards in this thread. If nothing is returned in a non-void function (like in this case), no compiler warnings seems to be given. Why? And what does it return, null?



http://stackoverflow.com/questions/10858391/why-do-programs-in-c-compile-even-when-the-return-statement-is-missing
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
Blisse
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada3710 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-31 15:17:13
October 31 2014 15:10 GMT
#10802
On October 31 2014 23:32 Nesserev wrote:
EDIT2: Question to the C wizards in this thread. If nothing is returned in a non-void function (like in this case), no compiler warnings seems to be given. Why? And what does it return, null?


if you don't return anything, if there's an assignment for the expected return i think the default behavior is to return the address of the function and cast to the assignment type.

(edit: hey sweet i got it right almost? is it just 0 or the function?)
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Alzadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada5009 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-31 15:15:38
October 31 2014 15:11 GMT
#10803
s is a pointer, so it will have a non-zero value pointing to a memory cell somewhere.

!s is false unless s was NULL. So when your function is passed a pointer that points to an empty string, it doesn't fall into that if statement.

This is similar to your problem with the while loops in your strjoin, maybe refresh your understanding of pointers?
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Blisse
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada3710 Posts
October 31 2014 15:19 GMT
#10804
On October 31 2014 23:47 Alzadar wrote:
Your strlen can't deal with an empty string.


the first line of the while loop (while s1[index]) deals with empty string fine.
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spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-31 16:30:30
October 31 2014 15:22 GMT
#10805
You also should read up on the implicit <type> to bool casts C does, as frequently observed in if/while conditional statements. For example:

if(!s) implicity casts the pointer s to bool
equivalent to if(s == NULL)

if(!*s) implicity casts the char that s points to to bool
equivalent to if(*s == '\0')
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
Alzadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada5009 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-31 15:26:24
October 31 2014 15:24 GMT
#10806
On November 01 2014 00:19 Blisse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2014 23:47 Alzadar wrote:
Your strlen can't deal with an empty string.


the first line of the while loop (while s1[index]) deals with empty string fine.


Oh that's true actually, I misunderstood what the first check was trying to do and didn't really consider the loop. Never mind me, I'll go back to Tcl.

spinesheath I think you have some extra bangs there.
I am the Town Medic.
Cyx.
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada806 Posts
October 31 2014 15:31 GMT
#10807
On November 01 2014 00:10 Blisse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2014 23:32 Nesserev wrote:
EDIT2: Question to the C wizards in this thread. If nothing is returned in a non-void function (like in this case), no compiler warnings seems to be given. Why? And what does it return, null?


if you don't return anything, if there's an assignment for the expected return i think the default behavior is to return the address of the function and cast to the assignment type.

(edit: hey sweet i got it right almost? is it just 0 or the function?)

Pretty sure it'll return whatever happens to be in EAX at the time (or however your compiler's calling convention does return values) - it's guaranteed UB though Your compiler should definitely give a warning if you have -Wall or equivalent on.
Cynry
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
810 Posts
October 31 2014 15:34 GMT
#10808
On November 01 2014 00:24 Alzadar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2014 00:19 Blisse wrote:
On October 31 2014 23:47 Alzadar wrote:
Your strlen can't deal with an empty string.


the first line of the while loop (while s1[index]) deals with empty string fine.


Oh that's true actually, I misunderstood what the first check was trying to do and didn't really consider the loop. Never mind me, I'll go back to Tcl.

spinesheath I think you have some extra bangs there.

Nah man, you're still right kinda, I mixed the check for a pointer to NULL and the check for an empty string. Definitely some understanding issues, although I know all that :/
Alzadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada5009 Posts
October 31 2014 15:52 GMT
#10809
re: pointer understanding, I know it helped me a lot to write

char* c
instead of
char *c

Just don't do this when declaring multiple variables on one line.
I am the Town Medic.
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
October 31 2014 16:33 GMT
#10810
On November 01 2014 00:24 Alzadar wrote:
spinesheath I think you have some extra bangs there.

Oh wow, that was so stupid of me. Not only is it much simpler now, but also if I wanted to show how the negation works together with the implicit cast I should have written the following instead:
if(!(s != NULL))
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
ThatGuy
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada695 Posts
October 31 2014 20:09 GMT
#10811
Crossposted from SFW funny pictures thread:

[image loading]
JD.
Profile Joined September 2014
Australia250 Posts
November 01 2014 08:14 GMT
#10812
Hey guys is anyone able to give me a hand with this?

*my code isn't 100% the same but if I can fix it here I can fix it on my end*

http://jsfiddle.net/be7tfczs/2/

Basically I want to be able to select a link and have the information pop up from imdb, but the code I have seems to use the first instance of "movie" all the time instead of the value associated with the link. I'm sure the solution is simple and I'm just not getting it
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
November 01 2014 08:34 GMT
#10813
On November 01 2014 17:14 JD. wrote:
Hey guys is anyone able to give me a hand with this?

*my code isn't 100% the same but if I can fix it here I can fix it on my end*

http://jsfiddle.net/be7tfczs/2/

Basically I want to be able to select a link and have the information pop up from imdb, but the code I have seems to use the first instance of "movie" all the time instead of the value associated with the link. I'm sure the solution is simple and I'm just not getting it

http://api.jquery.com/html/

Description: Get the HTML contents of the first element in the set of matched elements.


So basically, your $('.movie;).html() call just finds the first match and stops.

I think what you want is $(this).text()
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JD.
Profile Joined September 2014
Australia250 Posts
November 01 2014 12:03 GMT
#10814
Beautiful, thanks! I knew it was something simple haha.
MutantGenepool
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia115 Posts
November 02 2014 08:32 GMT
#10815
The Pros and Cons of Agile or Waterfall programming method of choice.

I looked up the P's and Q's about this, but I'd like to hear what TL'ers think.
Does Agile suit you as the way for programming or do you need to have a strict plan?
I'd like to hear what you folks think are the Pro's and Con's of each and what drives you to this way of programming.

Cheers
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Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17871 Posts
November 02 2014 19:19 GMT
#10816
I've learned that strict plans usually fail. Customers tend to change their mind on stuff as you go and then you have to go back to stuff you already did and change it, creating delays that keep adding up until it becomes unmanagable as you have to skip stuff or do it poorly to meet the deadlines. With agile it's much easier to accomodate the unexpected. Like this last week, project was scheduled for deployment but 1 day before that the customer submitted 8 or so changes. No biggie.

http://www.agilenutshell.com/agile_vs_waterfall
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
Blisse
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada3710 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-02 23:22:04
November 02 2014 23:21 GMT
#10817
Agile is good for shit that you don't need long planning periods to build. Like tech start-up products. Or mobile apps. Or websites. Probably not great for building a spaceship. Or building a bridge. They're good for shit that you want to get out super quickly and get feedback. Like tech start-up products. Or mobile apps. Or websites. Probably not great for building bridges. Or building spaceships.
There is no one like you in the universe.
snakeeyez
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1231 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-03 00:35:42
November 03 2014 00:29 GMT
#10818
Agile methodology is just different terminology for what is commonly done many other ways already. Most ways of developing something involve on the fly changes and maybe shuffling things around. Just seems like calling a car an automobile to me your not really doing anything new.
nunez
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway4003 Posts
November 03 2014 00:57 GMT
#10819
you're gonna be a terrible automobile accessory salesman snakeeyez.
conspired against by a confederacy of dunces.
Deleted User 101379
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
4849 Posts
November 03 2014 12:15 GMT
#10820
I want to get back into C++ development since the C++11 changes intrigue me and I haven't done any C++ work in ages and recently noticed how rusty I am in that regard. That is why I'm wondering which IDE is common these days. Back in the day I've used VIM and wrote Makefiles by hand and such, but these days I'd prefer to use a full IDE instead, so which IDE (using Windows) would you recommend?
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