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Hey, since i've been readin the forum for a long time and never signed up this is my first post, but I've got something big I wanna post but I can't make a thread obviosly so hopefully somebody still reads this off the dead thread.
I play blitz chess at chess.com to pass the time at work and for the first time ever I came into contact with a North Korean, the locations are based on IP so it can't be faked. But do you think this guy is genuine? the convo is very freaky.
I tried to bridge the gap with sc2 and he spoke again, lol.
+ Show Spoiler +
NEW GAME - inigomontoyo vs. deadlyvirus_
inigomontoyo: zomg
deadlyvirus_: wat
inigomontoyo: ur allowed to chat with ppl in democratic countries?
deadlyvirus_: no
inigomontoyo: how then
inigomontoyo: is it fake
inigomontoyo: are u real from NK
deadlyvirus_: yep
inigomontoyo: how is life
deadlyvirus_: good
inigomontoyo: i am fascinated by ur country
inigomontoyo: i want to know everything
deadlyvirus_: very beautiful
deadlyvirus_: many sights
deadlyvirus_: great country
deadlyvirus_: best country
inigomontoyo: what about south korea
deadlyvirus_: they cannot control their people
inigomontoyo: shouldn't people control the govermnent
inigomontoyo: nt the other way around
deadlyvirus_: no
inigomontoyo: but what if the government isn't doing what the people want
inigomontoyo: you have no choice
inigomontoyo: why would people want nuclear weapons and war
inigomontoyo: war means death
deadlyvirus_: no one want it
deadlyvirus_: south korea want it
inigomontoyo: yeah well if ur government and controlled media tell you that u beleive it
inigomontoyo: but i see your tv stations and the rest of the world
inigomontoyo: they are lying to you.
inigomontoyo: for example there was a rocket that launched a satellite into space playing music glorifying kim jong il
and ur tv said it was a success
inigomontoyo: but the rest of the world saw it crash into the ocean
deadlyvirus_: i don't understna
deadlyvirus_: why you talk like this
inigomontoyo: i think its imprtant that you know the truth
inigomontoyo: impirtant
deadlyvirus_: i just play game now
inigomontoyo: important
inigomontoyo: whoever you are you have the power to be free and decide your own life
inigomontoyo: don't let a small group of people trick all of you into thinking you can't do what you wnat
inigomontoyo: don't let the crimes of dead americans dictate your life choices
inigomontoyo: the entire world fears your leaders because they are dangerous criminals
inigomontoyo: your whole country is a prison, why won't they let you leave? if it's so great they'd let you compare
inigomontoyo: how did u even get on here, north koreans aren't allowed to chat
inigomontoyo: i play starcraft 2, it's beautiful
deadlyvirus_: wat contry r u?
inigomontoyo: Canada
You have requested to add deadlyvirus_ as a friend.
GAME OVER - inigomontoyo vs. deadlyvirus_ - inigomontoyo won by checkmate (+27). Your new blitz rating is 1005.
inigomontoyo: gg sir
inigomontoyo: i wish you the best
deadlyvirus_: good job
inigomontoyo: i really care about the korean people
inigomontoyo: don't let me down
that's it. I hope this gets out and we can talk about it.
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On August 11 2010 03:49 Contraud wrote:Hey, since i've been readin the forum for a long time and never signed up this is my first post, but I've got something big I wanna post but I can't make a thread obviosly so hopefully somebody still reads this off the dead thread. I play blitz chess at chess.com to pass the time at work and for the first time ever I came into contact with a North Korean, the locations are based on IP so it can't be faked. But do you think this guy is genuine? the convo is very freaky. I tried to bridge the gap with sc2 and he spoke again, lol. + Show Spoiler +
NEW GAME - inigomontoyo vs. deadlyvirus_
inigomontoyo: zomg
deadlyvirus_: wat
inigomontoyo: ur allowed to chat with ppl in democratic countries?
deadlyvirus_: no
inigomontoyo: how then
inigomontoyo: is it fake
inigomontoyo: are u real from NK
deadlyvirus_: yep
inigomontoyo: how is life
deadlyvirus_: good
inigomontoyo: i am fascinated by ur country
inigomontoyo: i want to know everything
deadlyvirus_: very beautiful
deadlyvirus_: many sights
deadlyvirus_: great country
deadlyvirus_: best country
inigomontoyo: what about south korea
deadlyvirus_: they cannot control their people
inigomontoyo: shouldn't people control the govermnent
inigomontoyo: nt the other way around
deadlyvirus_: no
inigomontoyo: but what if the government isn't doing what the people want
inigomontoyo: you have no choice
inigomontoyo: why would people want nuclear weapons and war
inigomontoyo: war means death
deadlyvirus_: no one want it
deadlyvirus_: south korea want it
inigomontoyo: yeah well if ur government and controlled media tell you that u beleive it
inigomontoyo: but i see your tv stations and the rest of the world
inigomontoyo: they are lying to you.
inigomontoyo: for example there was a rocket that launched a satellite into space playing music glorifying kim jong il
and ur tv said it was a success
inigomontoyo: but the rest of the world saw it crash into the ocean
deadlyvirus_: i don't understna
deadlyvirus_: why you talk like this
inigomontoyo: i think its imprtant that you know the truth
inigomontoyo: impirtant
deadlyvirus_: i just play game now
inigomontoyo: important
inigomontoyo: whoever you are you have the power to be free and decide your own life
inigomontoyo: don't let a small group of people trick all of you into thinking you can't do what you wnat
inigomontoyo: don't let the crimes of dead americans dictate your life choices
inigomontoyo: the entire world fears your leaders because they are dangerous criminals
inigomontoyo: your whole country is a prison, why won't they let you leave? if it's so great they'd let you compare
inigomontoyo: how did u even get on here, north koreans aren't allowed to chat
inigomontoyo: i play starcraft 2, it's beautiful
deadlyvirus_: wat contry r u?
inigomontoyo: Canada
You have requested to add deadlyvirus_ as a friend.
GAME OVER - inigomontoyo vs. deadlyvirus_ - inigomontoyo won by checkmate (+27). Your new blitz rating is 1005.
inigomontoyo: gg sir
inigomontoyo: i wish you the best
deadlyvirus_: good job
inigomontoyo: i really care about the korean people
inigomontoyo: don't let me down
that's it. I hope this gets out and we can talk about it.
very interesting, I won't begin to act like I know anything about being inside NK but from what we are all told they wouldn't have access to outside world. Of course there has been crazier things.
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I googled North Korea Chat and all these channels came up for people to chat with NKs but none of them had any NKs in them.
I have a book called Pyongyang; a journey in North Korea by Guy Delsie, a cartoonist who worked there for a while and in that he tries to get one of them to read 1984 and they won't talk about it.
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well, he could be someone rich or important
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Well, if that dude is North Korean, this is of course interesting. I have my doubts though, which make it really hard for me to comment on it. 
Assuming he is actually from NK there's one thing that strikes me... You seem to carry out the conversation as a monologue where you're basically telling him your point of view. While it may be correct, it is like a slap in the face to the North Korean. You're bascially ripping away everything he thinks as evident, which is a way too offensive approach to achieve any kind of conversation.
edit: Not to say I wouldn't do the same. It's basically like briefly meeting an alien for the first time - You have so much to tell and so little time. 
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I'm sorry man, I got really excited, I have a BA in poli-sci and I have been studying NK for years, you're right that I was too agressive, but I think a lot of that has to do with the fact that you can't strip away years of indoctrination in a 20 minute chess game. But if I give him a glimpse of the comparative views maybe he can go to linktv.org and see his news channel up against the others.
Edit:
my ip comes up international for some reason, I'm close to the border
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Are you joking? "Wat country r u?" This alone makes it obvious.
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Yeah, I dont think they are going to get any of this. Just a guess
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On June 25 2010 15:16 Kashmir wrote:
How about they start siphonining off some of that military budget? It's crazy to be worrying more about that than feeding your people.
USA would do well to take your advise aswell lol
Anyway, just because Korean leaders are dickheads does not mean that the sanctions should be implemented. By creating the sanctions they are isolating the people from the rest of the world an thereby making it very hard for the citizens to overthrow the government since they truly believe that they live in one of the better countries on this planet.
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Haha. Nord Korea is so weird. I highly recommend the documentary "Det Røde Kapel" about a journalist, a comedian and a spastic that travel into Nord Korea. It is a bit to much but extremity funny and so Fucked.
Link to IMDB
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1546653/
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People still compare Obama to Stalin and Hitler?
Laugh out loud.
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On August 11 2010 05:12 Stenstyren wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2010 15:16 Kashmir wrote:
How about they start siphonining off some of that military budget? It's crazy to be worrying more about that than feeding your people. USA would do well to take your advise aswell lol Anyway, just because Korean leaders are dickheads does not mean that the sanctions should be implemented. By creating the sanctions they are isolating the people from the rest of the world an thereby making it very hard for the citizens to overthrow the government since they truly believe that they live in one of the better countries on this planet.
I disagree with your logic. Stricter sanctions would push the country to the edge of collapse faster, while reduced sanctions would reward a racist, tyrannical regime by relieving it of the immediate threats of rebellion and of its own military disbanding. The accounts of North Korea are strongly reminiscent of 1984 and most other apocalyptic, totalitarian novels you could name. At this point outright invasion of the country would probably still be better for the people of North Korea than allowing North Koreans to be ruled by there own government.
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On August 11 2010 04:07 muse5187 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 11 2010 03:49 Contraud wrote:Hey, since i've been readin the forum for a long time and never signed up this is my first post, but I've got something big I wanna post but I can't make a thread obviosly so hopefully somebody still reads this off the dead thread. I play blitz chess at chess.com to pass the time at work and for the first time ever I came into contact with a North Korean, the locations are based on IP so it can't be faked. But do you think this guy is genuine? the convo is very freaky. I tried to bridge the gap with sc2 and he spoke again, lol. + Show Spoiler +
NEW GAME - inigomontoyo vs. deadlyvirus_
inigomontoyo: zomg
deadlyvirus_: wat
inigomontoyo: ur allowed to chat with ppl in democratic countries?
deadlyvirus_: no
inigomontoyo: how then
inigomontoyo: is it fake
inigomontoyo: are u real from NK
deadlyvirus_: yep
inigomontoyo: how is life
deadlyvirus_: good
inigomontoyo: i am fascinated by ur country
inigomontoyo: i want to know everything
deadlyvirus_: very beautiful
deadlyvirus_: many sights
deadlyvirus_: great country
deadlyvirus_: best country
inigomontoyo: what about south korea
deadlyvirus_: they cannot control their people
inigomontoyo: shouldn't people control the govermnent
inigomontoyo: nt the other way around
deadlyvirus_: no
inigomontoyo: but what if the government isn't doing what the people want
inigomontoyo: you have no choice
inigomontoyo: why would people want nuclear weapons and war
inigomontoyo: war means death
deadlyvirus_: no one want it
deadlyvirus_: south korea want it
inigomontoyo: yeah well if ur government and controlled media tell you that u beleive it
inigomontoyo: but i see your tv stations and the rest of the world
inigomontoyo: they are lying to you.
inigomontoyo: for example there was a rocket that launched a satellite into space playing music glorifying kim jong il
and ur tv said it was a success
inigomontoyo: but the rest of the world saw it crash into the ocean
deadlyvirus_: i don't understna
deadlyvirus_: why you talk like this
inigomontoyo: i think its imprtant that you know the truth
inigomontoyo: impirtant
deadlyvirus_: i just play game now
inigomontoyo: important
inigomontoyo: whoever you are you have the power to be free and decide your own life
inigomontoyo: don't let a small group of people trick all of you into thinking you can't do what you wnat
inigomontoyo: don't let the crimes of dead americans dictate your life choices
inigomontoyo: the entire world fears your leaders because they are dangerous criminals
inigomontoyo: your whole country is a prison, why won't they let you leave? if it's so great they'd let you compare
inigomontoyo: how did u even get on here, north koreans aren't allowed to chat
inigomontoyo: i play starcraft 2, it's beautiful
deadlyvirus_: wat contry r u?
inigomontoyo: Canada
You have requested to add deadlyvirus_ as a friend.
GAME OVER - inigomontoyo vs. deadlyvirus_ - inigomontoyo won by checkmate (+27). Your new blitz rating is 1005.
inigomontoyo: gg sir
inigomontoyo: i wish you the best
deadlyvirus_: good job
inigomontoyo: i really care about the korean people
inigomontoyo: don't let me down
that's it. I hope this gets out and we can talk about it. very interesting, I won't begin to act like I know anything about being inside NK but from what we are all told they wouldn't have access to outside world. Of course there has been crazier things.
Well I read an online article about a german who had an IT-company residing in NK (only german but I'll link it anyway: http://www.taz.de/1/archiv/print-archiv/printressorts/digi-artikel/?ressort=sw&dig=2010/06/22/a0004 ).
He said that he, as a foreigner, was allowed to have global internet/telephone at home (costing 250euro/month). He was forbidden to get something similiar at his company (the employees werent allowed to possibly have access to it).
Maybe it was someone like this.
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Interesting, but this definately sounded like a national, unless German businessmen say things like, "Nobody wants war, South Korea wants it"
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It's just another ploy to make the americans seem like bad guys and of course they know that we'll say no to that and look even worse to the NK people.
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On August 11 2010 05:12 Stenstyren wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2010 15:16 Kashmir wrote:
How about they start siphonining off some of that military budget? It's crazy to be worrying more about that than feeding your people. USA would do well to take your advise aswell lol Anyway, just because Korean leaders are dickheads does not mean that the sanctions should be implemented. By creating the sanctions they are isolating the people from the rest of the world an thereby making it very hard for the citizens to overthrow the government since they truly believe that they live in one of the better countries on this planet.
The USA doesn't have half a nation of people starving, although yes I agree military budget needs shrinkkkkkk.
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Lol. They're doing this because for a reason,b ut I wouldn't really want to discuss on a starcraft forum.
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On August 11 2010 07:19 kineSiS- wrote:
Lol. They're doing this because for a reason,b ut I wouldn't really want to discuss on a starcraft forum.
why not? We'd all be grateful for it, you can probably give some insides into this some other people on here can't.
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On August 11 2010 08:02 heishe wrote:Show nested quote +On August 11 2010 07:19 kineSiS- wrote:
Lol. They're doing this because for a reason,b ut I wouldn't really want to discuss on a starcraft forum. why not? We'd all be grateful for it, you can probably give some insides into this some other people on here can't.
Yeah, I thought the same thing so I pm'ed him and all he had to say was this:
North Korea is using threats and such, like nuclear missiles even though its evident they would never, they use it in order to gain supplies.
Says he won't go into further detail because this isn't "AP government class".
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