On April 11 2010 03:11 Manit0u wrote: Actually, Prime Minister is more important than the President here. The entire government is being built by the minister and his party/coalition.
True that. It's not like ENTIRE government is dead. Prime Minister and his Ministers are still alive. President's duties are now held by the marshall of the lower chamber of parliament (I dont really know how would that be in english), as it is written in the Constitution.
On April 11 2010 05:34 pat965 wrote: Indeed, they were also on a pretty old, crappy plane... They made some poor decisions, hopefully others learn and prevent something like this from happening again.
Trust me, plane was 100% operational. It was just put into very costly maintenance and upgraded etc. It served another delegation a couple of days ago, and it was all fine.
Two Polish hunters from Cleveland hired a pilot to fly them to Canada to hunt moose. They bagged four.
As they started loading the plane for the return trip home, the pilot tells them the plane can take only two moose.
The two Poles objected strongly, stating, "Last year we shot four moose, and the pilot let us put them all on board, and he had the same plane as yours."
Reluctantly, the pilot gave in and all four were loaded..
Unfortunately, even at full power, the little plane couldn't handle the load and crashed a few minutes after takeoff.
Climbing out of the wreck, Stanislaw asked Wladek, "Any idea where we are?"
Wladek replied, "I think we're pretty close to where we crashed last year.
...ehh, you know i havent read this thread but i want to tell you whats my reflection about this tragic event..
First of all list of ppl that died in that plane. The list of many familiar faces who appeared in the tv on daily basis... so you know them even if you disagreed with them. You see when usual masks of politicians fell off and thier faces show true human emotions, grief (every party lost some of their prominent figures). That list is damn long, secretary of this, chief of that.But not only politicians but top historians, actors, heads of EVERY types of armies, president of olympic comitee, chairman of national bank... WTF
About Kaczynski. I didnt like him as a politician, he was divisive but i sensed hes a good human being. I didnt like his brother actions also but its hard to feel anger at them when i know that their old mother is very sick right now, they were changing at her bed in hospital and now this heartbreaking news :/
sorry for my raw english, its hard for me to shape stream of my thoughts today
I think it's times like these that a government's foresight is put to the test. Perhaps Poland could not afford to fly them on separate planes as a safety precaution as the US forces the VP and P to fly on separate planes. But at least they had the foresight for a backup system. They will recover because of this.
It's interesting that if the President and VP and all the members of congress are killed, there is still someone who is supposed to take power in the states. Interesting fact. Here's the full list under the VP for the states.
President pro tempore of the Senate If he dies then... Secretary of State Secretary of the Treasury Secretary of Defense Attorney General Secretary of the Interior Secretary of Agriculture Secretary of Commerce Secretary of Labor Secretary of Health and Human Services Secretary of Housing and Urban Development Secretary of Transportation Secretary of Energy Secretary of Education Secretary of Veterans Affairs Secretary of Homeland Security
Personally, I would think either Homeland Security or Defence should be higher on the list since the downing of two planes would point to assassination and possibly an act of war, but it doesn't matter since it's very unlikely to happen.
On April 11 2010 05:40 stormssc wrote: the marshall of the lower chamber of parliament (I dont really know how would that be in english)
Parliament Speaker, for future reference.
And really, I do hate it when people start making fun of real human tragedies (9/11, Haiti, now this etc.). 4chan (as I believe that most of this stuff originates there anyway) should be wiped out.
Edit: On another note, this whole situation might be a big chance for the government to push through some resolutions that were being blocked by the president. I know it wouldn't be very nice thing to do, but in politics very few things are nice...
Anna Walentynowicz died there too :/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anna_Walentynowicz "Her firing in August 1980 was the event that led to the strike in the Gdansk Shipyard that paralyzed the Baltic coast and led to the giant wave of strikes in Poland and eventually the creation of Solidarity, of which she became a prominent member."
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