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+ Show Spoiler +Heho TL,
As i'm not an expert on hardware i hope some of you guys can help me out.
I got a recomendation to buy this setup:
AMD Athlon II X4 620 Box AM3
78,74 €
Samsung SpinPoint F3 500GB, SATA II (HD502HJ)
44,97 €
4GB-Kit A-Data XPG-G PC3-10667 CL8
86,59 €
BE Quiet! Pure Power 430 Watt / BQT L7
40,02 €
MSI 785GM-E51, Sockel AM3, mATX, PCIe
65,74 €
MSI N240GT-MD512-OC/D5, 512MB, PCI-Express
78,81 €
Do you think this will be enough to run starcraft2 on high details (i dont mean the beta),
and if this is overall a good setup. I know there are only requirements for the beta but i think its predictable if this will work or not ( i cant predict it but i'm confident someone here can:D )
Thanks in advance fellow TLusers.
It is finaly done :D
i go with:
AMD Athlon II x4 620
Gigabyte GA-MA770 AMD 770
2x Kingston 1GB DDR2 Valueram PC800/6400
Club3D Radeon5750 1GB PCIe
Super-Flower ATLAS 450W
Samsung SpinPoint F3 500GB SATA II
Thanks to all who helped me with this. TL rocks!
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i think your good to go with that setup, only thing that may restrict playing it on the highest detail is the graphics card, but i doubt it.
man its saddening how much more money i spent a year ago, for a computer not nearly as powerful as this one..
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Buy cheapest possible memory and good quality power.
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On February 20 2010 23:53 Welmu wrote:
Buy cheapest possible memory and good quality power if you want to waste your money.
Welmu forgot part of his recommendation so I added it for him. You get what you pay for with memory.
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this will run sc2 on high details with ease. maybe you want to spend a little more on the graphics part (for example radeon 5750 or 5770) to get directx 11 support and some more fps in general.
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What resolution will you be running at? The gt240 isn't bad, but it's a bit underwhelming for its price. I'd also stay well away from no name power supplies. Decent brands only cost a little bit more and they're significantly better, most of the time.
Maybe link an online store you are buying from too. I've little knowledge on Austrian prices, if that's where you are.
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The only two things are: to maybe wait, seeing as nvidia will bring out thier fermi cards soon, porbally dropping the price of the gt240. And also that processor seems a bit underpowered, 2.6 DualCore with a 240 and 4 gigs seems a bit disproporitionate especailly if your buying an am3 socket motherbaord. Other than that seems like a solid pc. On the processor i have a 250gts and a 5000+ which is basicly the same as yours but dual instead of quad and i find my processor really is a bottleneck in a massive way. Maybe the quad might make the difference but i would advise a Phenom II X4 personaly. But maybe I'm wrong.
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On February 21 2010 00:40 UdderChaos wrote:
The only two things are: to maybe wait, seeing as nvidia will bring out thier fermi cards soon, porbally dropping the price of the gt240. And also that processor seems a bit underpowered, 2.6 DualCore with a 240 and 4 gigs seems a bit disproporitionate especailly if your buying an am3 socket motherbaord. Other than that seems like a solid pc. On the processor i have a 250gts and a 5000+ which is basicly the same as yours but dual instead of quad and i find my processor really is a bottleneck in a massive way. Maybe the quad might make the difference but i would advise a Phenom II X4 personaly. But maybe I'm wrong.
The athlon II x4 620 is a quad -.-
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On February 21 2010 00:43 Boblion wrote:Show nested quote +On February 21 2010 00:40 UdderChaos wrote:
The only two things are: to maybe wait, seeing as nvidia will bring out thier fermi cards soon, porbally dropping the price of the gt240. And also that processor seems a bit underpowered, 2.6 DualCore with a 240 and 4 gigs seems a bit disproporitionate especailly if your buying an am3 socket motherbaord. Other than that seems like a solid pc. On the processor i have a 250gts and a 5000+ which is basicly the same as yours but dual instead of quad and i find my processor really is a bottleneck in a massive way. Maybe the quad might make the difference but i would advise a Phenom II X4 personaly. But maybe I'm wrong. The athlon II x4 620 is a quad -.-
lololololoololololol
but yeah, you're good to go... starcraft 2 on max settings might lag a little imo, but that's not too big a deal.
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thanks so far. i check for prices of the parts when i get home.
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On February 21 2010 00:40 UdderChaos wrote:
And also that processor seems a bit underpowered, 2.6 DualCore with a 240 and 4 gigs seems a bit disproporitionate especailly if your buying an am3 socket motherbaord. Other than that seems like a solid pc. On the processor i have a 250gts and a 5000+ which is basicly the same as yours but dual instead of quad and i find my processor really is a bottleneck in a massive way. Maybe the quad might make the difference but i would advise a Phenom II X4 personaly. But maybe I'm wrong.
I'm sorry but this is just plain wrong. In any decently coded game the GPU is almost always the bottleneck. As long as you run at a decent resolution. I really don't know where people get the idea of cpu bottlenecks in gaming. I see this everywhere. It only ever happens on the extremely high end cards and SLI.
The athlon x4 620 is amazing value. Quad core, easily overclockable to 3.4+ ghz if you put some effort in, and retardedly cheap.
cpu bottleneck article
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/build-balanced-platform,2469-9.html
athlon x4 620 games performance
http://www.guru3d.com/article/amd-athlon-ii-x4-620-review-test/14
http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=3638&p=8
Yeah I just looked through some gt240 reviews again. Go a tier up in power to 4770/4850/gts 250 if you can squeeze like $30 more out of yourself. They are roughly 50-100% better for not much more money.
This processor is seriously a good choice. It can keep up with cpus that cost twice or three times it's price.
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On February 21 2010 01:10 faseman wrote:Show nested quote +On February 21 2010 00:40 UdderChaos wrote:
And also that processor seems a bit underpowered, 2.6 DualCore with a 240 and 4 gigs seems a bit disproporitionate especailly if your buying an am3 socket motherbaord. Other than that seems like a solid pc. On the processor i have a 250gts and a 5000+ which is basicly the same as yours but dual instead of quad and i find my processor really is a bottleneck in a massive way. Maybe the quad might make the difference but i would advise a Phenom II X4 personaly. But maybe I'm wrong. I'm sorry but this is just plain wrong. In any decently coded game the GPU is almost always the bottleneck. As long as you run at a decent resolution. I really don't know where people get the idea of cpu bottlenecks in gaming. I see this everywhere. It only ever happens on the extremely high end cards and SLI. The athlon x4 620 is amazing value. Quad core, easily overclockable to 3.4+ ghz if you put some effort in, and retardedly cheap. cpu bottleneck article http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/build-balanced-platform,2469-9.htmlathlon x4 620 games performance http://www.guru3d.com/article/amd-athlon-ii-x4-620-review-test/14http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=3638&p=8This processor is seriously a good choice. It can keep up with cpus that cost twice or three times it's price.
Like i said i may be wrong, and I am it seems ^^ that article is a real eye opener didn't realise how ridiculously one sided gaming was! Thanks for the lesson :D
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ok now
i have to say i dont mind spending a bit more if i can get something much better 
so i see it like this: you guys want me to exchange the graphics card?
the options are 4770/4850/gts 250 and radeon HD5670
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I don't see why you're getting the x4 620.
It would be better to get the x2 240 or x3 410, and just overclock them a good amount. This would be cheaper and allow you to get a better graphics card (by about $30) so you could have a much better video card.
Not only that, but the new 5570 actually isn't that bad. Its faster than a 4670 (especially when overclocked) and is a great performer for it's price.
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The big question is what resolution do you run or intend to run? And also to clarify is 400 euros the limit of your budget? or just the cost of this build?
The 5670 like the gt 240 is pretty poor value imho.
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The 5670 is a pretty terrible value. The 240 GT is a fine card at its price and should play SC2 just fine.
If you can, you should switch it out for a 4850 1GB. It will offer much better performance, and allow high details at higher resolutions. The 240 might not be able to handle high details at higher resolutions!
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those graphic cards are so outdated however have very good performance. (ok except 5670)
430W PSU is absolute minimum for the setup you suggested!! go for 500W, it is just slightly more expensive
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