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monolith94
Profile Joined September 2009
United States47 Posts
January 31 2010 00:05 GMT
#141
On January 30 2010 19:31 EchOne wrote:
To those arguing against the soul-crushing hard labor that Draconizard advocates with the argument that it goes against rehabilitation, I'd like to guess that his point was that in cases of life sentences, rehabilitation is not an issue. People spending their lives in prison will never again return to society, so they will never return any value to society other than via slave labor.


Those in prison for life without possibility of parole are prisoners, not slaves. You can't force someone to work; that's slavery. And slavery is simply wrong.
orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
January 31 2010 01:31 GMT
#142



One morning on her way to school, Na-Young was dragged to a public toilet by a 50 year old strange man. He was under the influence of alcohol at the time of the incident, told by the police department which handled her case.

l Beaten and strangled:

He punched her face and stomach when she refused to take off her clothes. He then strangled her neck to make her pass out but when he didn’t succeed he held her head under the water of toilet seat until she did pass out. It was assumed he did this to make it easy to force himself on her. Up till this point, she was still conscious, said Na-Young when she was asked to describe everything she could remember. It was also confirmed by physical evidences.

l Violently raped and sexually tortured:

When she fell unconscious he made held her against the closed toilet seat cover then had penetrative intercourse (anal and vaginal). He then performed the same penetrative pistol action to her right ear. Her head and her ear were crushed against the water tank each time of his pistol action. Her right shoulder was also dislocated as a result.

l Injury of internal oragns and a rupture:

Thinking he had to destroy the evidence by cleaning her inside out of his semen, he pushed her face down in the toilet again to wash her ears. He then used a pump (used for blocked toilets) on her via anus in attempt to extract his semen which lead to severe rupture of her large intestine where he, this time, tried to push the organs back inside her using the long stick of the pump. During this process, he damaged her genital organs completely.

l Attempt to destroy the evidences and cover up the crime scene:

He tried to clean her up. Flushed her blood and other traces of her organs down the toilet, washed her and made her sit upright but decides to have another intercourse. When he was finally done and satisfied, he ran away leaving Na-Young to die.



Tell me if this piece of shit does not demand the death sentence.
초대 갓, 이영호 | First God, Lee Young Ho
Saturnize
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States2473 Posts
January 31 2010 01:38 GMT
#143
On January 31 2010 10:31 orgolove wrote:
Show nested quote +



One morning on her way to school, Na-Young was dragged to a public toilet by a 50 year old strange man. He was under the influence of alcohol at the time of the incident, told by the police department which handled her case.

l Beaten and strangled:

He punched her face and stomach when she refused to take off her clothes. He then strangled her neck to make her pass out but when he didn’t succeed he held her head under the water of toilet seat until she did pass out. It was assumed he did this to make it easy to force himself on her. Up till this point, she was still conscious, said Na-Young when she was asked to describe everything she could remember. It was also confirmed by physical evidences.

l Violently raped and sexually tortured:

When she fell unconscious he made held her against the closed toilet seat cover then had penetrative intercourse (anal and vaginal). He then performed the same penetrative pistol action to her right ear. Her head and her ear were crushed against the water tank each time of his pistol action. Her right shoulder was also dislocated as a result.

l Injury of internal oragns and a rupture:

Thinking he had to destroy the evidence by cleaning her inside out of his semen, he pushed her face down in the toilet again to wash her ears. He then used a pump (used for blocked toilets) on her via anus in attempt to extract his semen which lead to severe rupture of her large intestine where he, this time, tried to push the organs back inside her using the long stick of the pump. During this process, he damaged her genital organs completely.

l Attempt to destroy the evidences and cover up the crime scene:

He tried to clean her up. Flushed her blood and other traces of her organs down the toilet, washed her and made her sit upright but decides to have another intercourse. When he was finally done and satisfied, he ran away leaving Na-Young to die.



Tell me if this piece of shit does not demand the death sentence.


Your changing the subject.
"Time to put the mustard on the hotdog. -_-"
LarJarsE
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1378 Posts
January 31 2010 01:42 GMT
#144
On January 30 2010 15:58 MasterDana wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2010 15:51 meegrean wrote:
now what is this dungeon master going to do in prison on his free time now?


make more campaigns.


lol
since 98'
orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
January 31 2010 01:44 GMT
#145
The point is, there's two types of crimes.

Crimes that cause direct harm, including murder, rape, assault, etc.


"Crimes" that have barely any consequence, i.e. running a stop sign, downloading movies etc.



This man committed the first type.


Any piece of shit that murders should live the rest of his days in endless hard labor/pain/suffering, directly proportional to the pain he caused. Death is too quick for him.
초대 갓, 이영호 | First God, Lee Young Ho
Hinanawi
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2250 Posts
January 31 2010 02:00 GMT
#146
Prison has always had at least some element of retribution involved. I'm extremely liberal, and it bothers me when other liberals can't admit this.

Here's a hypothetical situation: Say someone commits some horrifically violent crime, like raping and then killing a bunch of children. The police catch him, drag him to the police station, and let's say that we somehow have technology that can see into his mind and know that he'll never commit a crime again.

Would we let him go? Should we let him go? After all, he's never going to commit a crime again. Fuck no. Put that to a poll in any country in the world, over 90% of the people would say HELL NO, lock that sick fuck up. Why? Retribution.
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EchOne
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States2906 Posts
January 31 2010 02:08 GMT
#147
I want to apologize if my comment regarding hard labor for life sentenced inmates sounded callous. I wasn't intending to discuss whether it was right or wrong. In fact I considered adding that whether or not this is humane or moral is a different story altogether. Personally I find forced labor and life imprisonment in general cruel and repugnant.

From a completely inhumane standpoint, though, improving the mental health of life prisoners has negligible benefits, since the kind of menial labor they may be assigned will be so unskilled that motivation won't improve productivity.

I have mixed feelings on prisoners' rights in general since many discussions in moral philosophy touch on the concept of a right to freedom, which clearly is being denied to life prisoners.
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GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
January 31 2010 02:13 GMT
#148
On January 30 2010 16:28 illu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2010 16:21 melingom wrote:
and the moral of the story? If you want to play D&D, it's probably not a good idea to bludgeon and stab your sister's boyfriend to death.


Exactly. Prison is supposed to be a punishment; to allow prisoners to play D&D is not a punishment. Also, as far as I know, a prisoner does not enjoy the same Constitutional Rights.



That is true but they do enjoy most of those rights, with some minor exceptions.
Why would you ever choose failure, when success is an option.
orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
January 31 2010 02:14 GMT
#149
On January 31 2010 11:08 EchOne wrote:
I want to apologize if my comment regarding hard labor for life sentenced inmates sounded callous. I wasn't intending to discuss whether it was right or wrong. In fact I considered adding that whether or not this is humane or moral is a different story altogether. Personally I find forced labor and life imprisonment in general cruel and repugnant.

From a completely inhumane standpoint, though, improving the mental health of life prisoners has negligible benefits, since the kind of menial labor they may be assigned will be so unskilled that motivation won't improve productivity.

I have mixed feelings on prisoners' rights in general since many discussions in moral philosophy touch on the concept of a right to freedom, which clearly is being denied to life prisoners.



No, I completely agree with you regarding hard labor. That should be the least of which should be suffered by the trash of mankind like the one discussed in this thread.
초대 갓, 이영호 | First God, Lee Young Ho
Kwidowmaker
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Canada978 Posts
January 31 2010 02:17 GMT
#150
On January 31 2010 10:31 orgolove wrote:
Show nested quote +



One morning on her way to school, Na-Young was dragged to a public toilet by a 50 year old strange man. He was under the influence of alcohol at the time of the incident, told by the police department which handled her case.

l Beaten and strangled:

He punched her face and stomach when she refused to take off her clothes. He then strangled her neck to make her pass out but when he didn’t succeed he held her head under the water of toilet seat until she did pass out. It was assumed he did this to make it easy to force himself on her. Up till this point, she was still conscious, said Na-Young when she was asked to describe everything she could remember. It was also confirmed by physical evidences.

l Violently raped and sexually tortured:

When she fell unconscious he made held her against the closed toilet seat cover then had penetrative intercourse (anal and vaginal). He then performed the same penetrative pistol action to her right ear. Her head and her ear were crushed against the water tank each time of his pistol action. Her right shoulder was also dislocated as a result.

l Injury of internal oragns and a rupture:

Thinking he had to destroy the evidence by cleaning her inside out of his semen, he pushed her face down in the toilet again to wash her ears. He then used a pump (used for blocked toilets) on her via anus in attempt to extract his semen which lead to severe rupture of her large intestine where he, this time, tried to push the organs back inside her using the long stick of the pump. During this process, he damaged her genital organs completely.

l Attempt to destroy the evidences and cover up the crime scene:

He tried to clean her up. Flushed her blood and other traces of her organs down the toilet, washed her and made her sit upright but decides to have another intercourse. When he was finally done and satisfied, he ran away leaving Na-Young to die.



Tell me if this piece of shit does not demand the death sentence.


How about the college student caught with and ounce of weed does he deserved to be raped?

Kk.
GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
January 31 2010 02:23 GMT
#151
On January 31 2010 10:31 orgolove wrote:
Show nested quote +



One morning on her way to school, Na-Young was dragged to a public toilet by a 50 year old strange man. He was under the influence of alcohol at the time of the incident, told by the police department which handled her case.

l Beaten and strangled:

He punched her face and stomach when she refused to take off her clothes. He then strangled her neck to make her pass out but when he didn’t succeed he held her head under the water of toilet seat until she did pass out. It was assumed he did this to make it easy to force himself on her. Up till this point, she was still conscious, said Na-Young when she was asked to describe everything she could remember. It was also confirmed by physical evidences.

l Violently raped and sexually tortured:

When she fell unconscious he made held her against the closed toilet seat cover then had penetrative intercourse (anal and vaginal). He then performed the same penetrative pistol action to her right ear. Her head and her ear were crushed against the water tank each time of his pistol action. Her right shoulder was also dislocated as a result.

l Injury of internal oragns and a rupture:

Thinking he had to destroy the evidence by cleaning her inside out of his semen, he pushed her face down in the toilet again to wash her ears. He then used a pump (used for blocked toilets) on her via anus in attempt to extract his semen which lead to severe rupture of her large intestine where he, this time, tried to push the organs back inside her using the long stick of the pump. During this process, he damaged her genital organs completely.

l Attempt to destroy the evidences and cover up the crime scene:

He tried to clean her up. Flushed her blood and other traces of her organs down the toilet, washed her and made her sit upright but decides to have another intercourse. When he was finally done and satisfied, he ran away leaving Na-Young to die.



Tell me if this piece of shit does not demand the death sentence.



Also that has nothing to do with this case...
Why would you ever choose failure, when success is an option.
fight_or_flight
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States3988 Posts
January 31 2010 06:31 GMT
#152
On January 30 2010 15:41 iCCup.Raelcun wrote:
I find it more likely the D&D playing prisoners did something to make someone angry so they responded by banning it. What's the downside they sit in their corner of the room and basically keep to themselves? Sometimes they'll make a loud noise on a good roll when it comes to prison activities you'd think it would be rather encouraged.

I think its pretty ridiculous too and the reasons given were BS.

I bet the reason they took it away is because they were completely obvious that they were in prison at all. The guards are used to having some level of power over the prisoners by allowing them certain privileges....these guys didn't care about privileges, they just played D&D all day.
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lazz
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia3119 Posts
January 31 2010 06:38 GMT
#153
On January 31 2010 10:44 orgolove wrote:
"Crimes" that have barely any consequence, i.e. running a stop sign, downloading movies etc.



Wow youre an idiot.

orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
January 31 2010 07:18 GMT
#154
On January 31 2010 15:38 lazz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2010 10:44 orgolove wrote:
"Crimes" that have barely any consequence, i.e. running a stop sign, downloading movies etc.



Wow youre an idiot.




Uhh, no. When you run a stop sign because no cars are around, and a cop decides to ruin your day just to meet his quota even though it harmed absolutely NOBODY - I call that bullshit.


The criminal killed his sister. Imagine the pain and suffering his family, his parents, the sister's sons/daughters etc all have to go through for the rest of their lives. Whenever there is a family gathering, whenever they go through an album, whenever anything triggers the memory - there will be an intense emotional agony that will course through their veins.

He has no right to enjoy anything.
초대 갓, 이영호 | First God, Lee Young Ho
coltrane
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Chile988 Posts
January 31 2010 08:06 GMT
#155
On January 30 2010 23:28 Liquid`Drone wrote:
the idea that prison is supposed to be about punishment is incredibly dehumanizing. it seriously saddens me that it's such a prevalent thought
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