Chinese Music Discussion Thread

On September 20 2009 10:08 tredmasta wrote:

And of course, this is obligatory:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsa1GhsGUHA

Fire away!

I'm curious do you guys that listen to canto/mandarin songs understand the words or just enjoy the music?

On September 20 2009 10:26 FragKrag wrote:
NO NO NO NO NO

On September 20 2009 10:14 MooCow wrote:

I can speak/understand cantonese only but this song is so popular and good everyone knows it~!

I'm curious do you guys that listen to canto/mandarin songs understand the words or just enjoy the music?

On September 20 2009 10:35 coolcrimefighter wrote:
I like most of 周杰倫's songs but these are some of my favorites
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my favorite songs by tank+ Show Spoiler +
張棟樑 + Show Spoiler +
theres a lot of other artists I like but I dont think I should post every single video I like lol :S

On September 20 2009 11:25 Triple7 wrote:
At the time of this post:
8-Bit Music Thread
Kpop discussion thread
The Ultimate Rock Thread
C-Pop Discussion Thread
J-Pop Thread

On September 20 2009 12:58 thedeadhaji wrote:
the general forum is dead to me

On September 21 2009 18:35 Eeyore wrote:
No one listens to Rainie Yang's songs?

On September 21 2009 23:39 MadNeSs wrote:
Seriously all you guys with your k-pop, j-pop, c-pop and whatever shit. You are so gay. Seriously.

On September 21 2009 23:39 MadNeSs wrote:
Seriously all you guys with your k-pop, j-pop, c-pop and whatever shit. You are so gay. Seriously.

On September 22 2009 13:54 ydg wrote:
I feel that a huge chunk of Cpop is just ballad-y songs, which just isn't my taste.
Anyways, is there currently an active Cpop scene, like there is an active Kpop scene, like with an updated international news site?

On September 27 2009 02:10 Polyphasic wrote:
yuck, old school classic stuff? haha

"all hail mao ze dong, our great leader.... he is like sun... oh beautiful waterfalls in our native country. " rofl

On October 01 2009 09:21 yooh wrote:
wow these are some REALLY OLD songs people

On October 14 2009 07:03 Hold-Lurker wrote:
So this might be the best place to ask – I’m looking for a song which I saw the video for a while ago. It starts off with a guy working at a shop, he sits down with a girl, and tells her he loves her and she laughs (while drinking something and spilling it or choking on it?). The video goes on with him consoling her for a variety of different things (break up, lost her job?). Along the way, I *think* he sings about “his first [X]” where [X] is hug, kiss, etc. – (for example, the girl gets drunk after being fired and she passes out on him, and he says it’s his first hug?) and at the end she asks him to repeat what he said before, and he does so, and the girl accepts this time. Anyone know what I’m talking about? I believe they are either singing in Chinese (maybe Taiwanese?).

On October 14 2009 10:05 DTK-m2 wrote:
Anyone else like me? In my opinion, I'm "fluent" in Chinese, for whatever it's worth, but I can only understand like half the stuff they say when they're singing. Speaking's just fine, though.

I guess I haven't been listening to cpop long enough...

On October 20 2009 21:57 haduken wrote:
I just don't understand why anyone would still listen to 'C-POP' after listening to other genres.
All they ever do is either:
a) sing something about being dicked in a relationship.
b) sing something about motherland.
c) copy some tune from j-pop or k-pop and regurgitate.
d) rap about random shits.
f) take some ancient Chinese poetry and try so hard to fit it with lyrics. (I'm looking at you, Jay)

Anything out of Taiwan = garbage.
HK used to be decent at least, now they are going down the same path. I mean seriously why the hell was Twins popular?

On October 20 2009 21:57 haduken wrote:
I just don't understand why anyone would still listen to 'C-POP' after listening to other genres.
All they ever do is either:
a) sing something about being dicked in a relationship.
b) sing something about motherland.
c) copy some tune from j-pop or k-pop and regurgitate.
d) rap about random shits.
f) take some ancient Chinese poetry and try so hard to fit it with lyrics. (I'm looking at you, Jay)

Anything out of Taiwan = garbage.
HK used to be decent at least, now they are going down the same path. I mean seriously why the hell was Twins popular?

On October 21 2009 05:56 Mykill wrote:
What do they sing about in K-Pop and J-Pop???? (question of interest here)
i swear most artists sing about the same stuff. it just sounds good sometimes
most C-Pop sucks, i have compiled about 50ish decent songs.
saying Taiwan = garbage is a little harsh though.
Korea = garbage too if you look at their dances that go with the music...

On October 20 2009 21:57 haduken wrote:
Anything out of Taiwan = garbage.

On September 20 2009 10:08 tredmasta wrote:


And of course, this is obligatory:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsa1GhsGUHA

On October 21 2009 07:32 pyrogenetix wrote:
LOL omg off the top of my head hahahahha

JIN hahaha LOL (ABC hai ngo, LEARN CHINESE rofl)

On October 21 2009 11:28 haduken wrote:
David Tao is not bad, I've listened to a few of his tracks.

I felt that he was at his prime when Jay was all the rage.

On October 20 2009 21:57 haduken wrote:
I just don't understand why anyone would still listen to 'C-POP' after listening to other genres.

On October 21 2009 13:16 p53 wrote:


Kpop isn't much better. It's all pretty much American pop music lagged by 3-years.

Not to mention when one Kpop gets big, either all the other companies go make their own version of that pop group (i.e. now with the explosion of girl groups =.=) or the opposite gender of that group is made.

On November 17 2009 07:51 tredmasta wrote:
Jay Chou released a new song! It's a duet with Cindy Yen.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofFwWSUz2Gs

I like this song a lot.

On November 17 2009 07:51 tredmasta wrote:
Jay Chou released a new song! It's a duet with Cindy Yen.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofFwWSUz2Gs

I like this song a lot.

On November 17 2009 10:00 himurakenshin wrote:


wow I think this is one of jay chou's worst songs

On October 21 2009 13:29 Physician wrote:
The rebel in me insists..

Carsick Cars (Beijing neopunk)+ Show Spoiler +
Mamer (Chinagrass) + Show Spoiler +
Hanggai (all drunk, as usual) + Show Spoiler +
China is more, much more..

On November 18 2009 17:07 haduken wrote:
haha, i don't think anyone really took jay's vocal seriously.

he is a good composer/producer tho but seriously all his hits are better sang by other people.

On November 17 2009 08:12 freelander wrote:


tossgirl with a violine and musical voice?
that's quite a gimmick

On November 18 2009 17:52 himurakenshin wrote:
what are you guys talking about?
jay chou is a great singer. just because no one can understand him doesn't mean that he isn't a great singer.

On November 18 2009 18:19 Roffles wrote:

Mumbling lyrics does not constitute a great singer. He does however have some good songs out there. But his vocals are simply lacking.

On December 01 2009 19:25 pyrogenetix wrote:
rofl
even though im chinese i never listen to cpop. or kpop or jpop for that matter.
LOL seriously they all sound the same, just that jpop and kpop might be a little better because cpop just started recently, but seriously its all pretty much the same, even the music videos, always some emo ass guy who spends like half his income on his hair and some girl he's trying to get but too much of a faggot to make a move etc.

yea i thought it was pretty much established that edison chan did that stunt to try and get famous cuz a lot of western people got famous from releasing sex tapes. he tried really hard to make it in hollywood and wanted to leave the whole hong kong celebrity circle but fucked up lol. i think a friend told me one of the girl's dad is triad and ordered a hit on him but he got away or someshit. hahaha pop music is so funny.

On June 14 2010 09:26 haduken wrote:
D: dies

Seriously, no more taiwan pop.

On June 14 2010 12:52 synapse wrote:


You, sir, need to calm down. My post was very clearly a joke on the name change of the thread (if this wasn't obvious I'm sorry I offended you). At one point, I tried to get into C-Pop just because I am Chinese, but I never liked it. There is one Chinese artist that I ever listen to, and I never bothered to listen to any other Asian music since like 2008.
+ Show Spoiler +

I realize that your post is directed to me and not towards Chinese music; but even though I left a negative comment in the Korean music thread, this has nothing to do with me holding up for only my own country's music (as you seem to imply). You could call C-Pop shit, and I would wholeheartedly agree. I never liked Asian music. I already knew that many Chinese songs were basically copied from Korean counterparts, and this only made me hate Chinese music as a whole even more.

I'll admit I haven't listened to much Korean music at all, so my statement that Korean music is "shit" has no merit, so I'm sorry for that.

On June 14 2010 12:52 MorningMusume11 wrote:


Above post is gone. Now go get me Vivian Hsu pics

On June 14 2010 23:01 Yme wrote:

Great song!!!!!!
btw where is Charlene Choi from?

On June 14 2010 23:01 Yme wrote:

Great song!!!!!!
btw where is Charlene Choi from?

On June 15 2010 10:57 Roffles wrote:

She can't sing. The song's better when you take out her part and just let him sing the entire thing. Same with all his other duets.

On June 15 2010 11:04 MorningMusume11 wrote:


Hey Roffles if you heard Kim Jong Wook's "Only You" song, during his perfs most of the girls next to him would just stand there while he sings. That what this bitch needs to do to

On June 15 2010 11:08 Yme wrote:

LOL but I can't find a JJ lin single of this song on Youtube. 阿 sa is good at acting at least.

On June 15 2010 10:57 Roffles wrote:

She can't sing. The song's better when you take out her part and just let him sing the entire thing. Same with all his other duets.

On June 15 2010 11:29 Crahptacular wrote:

:<

i happen to like the female part in this song
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWh_6FSgJ0w

On June 15 2010 11:41 Roffles wrote:

Jin Sha is worse than Charlene. If you've ever seen a live of her singing, it's simply pathetic. Can't hold a damn note to save her life, and is probably like 50x worse than shitty KPop idol singers. Here are a couple examples:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWJ7o595Wn4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5KhDiuMXFs#t=5m55s

On June 15 2010 12:21 Pieguy314 wrote:
Hey, does anyone know any good chinese hip-hop artists and where to find their music?
I've been searching for a while and it's really hard to find >.<

On June 15 2010 12:16 Picture wrote:

What else have you done besides bash singers in this thread? She's an "idol" singer, what were you expecting? It doesn't take a good live singer to record a good song. Let him enjoy his studio version of the song.

On June 15 2010 12:40 Roffles wrote:

I bash em cause they suck. There's no denying Jin Sha is piss poor and ruins such great lives from JJ. I just point out that most female CPop vocalists are bad.

Plus, most idol singers can hold a note. Even shitty KPop idol group singers can hold a note longer than she can. Plus, she doesn't even dance on stage, and can't sing to save her life. I just think its pathetic she got to duet with a vastly superior vocalist. Couldn't they have gotten someone with some talent?

On June 15 2010 13:23 Roffles wrote:
Okay. Well, there's Fish, Jolin, SHE, Faye Wong, Bibi Chow, BY2. Want me to keep going?

I guarantee you know nothing about what I know. Thanks.

Btw, that black guy in the videos above is Hao Ge.

On June 15 2010 13:35 Picture wrote:

What this tells me is, you know ~20ish singers, and you dare to generalize and conclude that most female cpop singers are bad.

On June 15 2010 13:38 Roffles wrote:

I know more, you want me to continue? There's that fatty Han Hong, GiGi Leung, Karen Mok, Jane Zhang, Joey Yung, Chris Lee, Vivian Hsu, the Twins... I can keep going, you want?

Anyways, what that tells me is that I know more than you think I know. Yes, I can conclude that most female CPop singers are bad in comparison to male singers. Keep feeding me. I can continue. Plus, you said the top artists, not the ones that I think are any good.

On June 15 2010 13:43 Picture wrote:

Were those supposed to be part of the top singers, or are you just trying to list 20 singers?...

On June 15 2010 13:48 Roffles wrote:

You have an issue with HK singers? You have an issue against those with talent and can sing? But yeah, I still maintain that most are just as shitty as KPop idol singers. There are few in the business that have real talent, like Jane Zhang, but there are others who you KNOW can't sing like Jolin who are only there because she's pretty.

Don't try to deny it. Also, don't try to deny that the ones I'm listing are pretty damn popular in China.

On June 15 2010 13:56 Roffles wrote:
I'm gonna quit arguing with you. Simply because I've proven you wrong numerous times already.

On June 15 2010 13:35 Picture wrote:

What this tells me is, you know ~20ish singers, and you dare to generalize and conclude that most female cpop singers are bad.

On June 15 2010 13:59 Picture wrote:

You don't even have an argument. lol
First you say most female cpop singers are bad. Then you compare them to kpop and say even kpop girl groups sing better. Then when I ask you for top 5 singers you give me top 5 popular (irrelevant).

Yea you won.

On June 15 2010 13:56 Roffles wrote:
I'm gonna quit arguing with you. Simply because I've proven you wrong numerous times already.

You know what's hilarious? Your denial. Face it. You said I couldn't list Female artists. I listed em, numerous times.

On June 15 2010 14:00 Picture wrote:
The ones I bolded are the bad ones. Wasnt that painfully obvious?

On June 15 2010 13:17 Picture wrote:

Stop with the ignorant K-Pop C-pop comparisons. Name the top 5-10 chinese female pop singers you know. I guarantee you that you know nothing.

On June 15 2010 14:03 Picture wrote:

Do you not know how to read? When did I ever say you couldn't list female singers? A 5 year old kid could go on wiki and copy paste 100. Congrats on being proud of doing something I didn't even expect you to do.

Could you stop sidetracking and answer the question? Were the singers you listed popular or good singers?

On June 15 2010 13:17 Picture wrote:
Name the top 5-10 chinese female pop singers you know. I guarantee you that you know nothing.

On June 15 2010 14:05 Roffles wrote:

You tell me. You're the guru right?

On June 15 2010 13:38 MorningMusume11 wrote:
I'll listen to Faye Wong over SHE anyday k thx...

or Zhang Li Yin over both of them combined

anyways, who's the middle girl at :22 - :24ish?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3xgjOUOOc4&feature=related

On June 15 2010 14:10 pathy wrote:


hebe, only member of she worth knowing imo luls

On June 15 2010 14:07 Roffles wrote:

Funny, it seems like you suffer from the inability to interpret your own words.

On June 15 2010 14:07 Picture wrote:

It doesn't make sense to me.
The list looks like its based on popularity, but then that's irrelevant to the argument. But then the list is terrible if its based on singing ability.

On June 15 2010 14:13 Roffles wrote:

Of course I based it off popularity. Why would I base something off something as subjective as singing ability? Any list I make based off singing ability can be shot down by you because your tastes are different from mine, which is why this argument arose in the first place.

On June 15 2010 14:50 Roffles wrote:
Anyways, sincerest apologies for thread derailment. And to Picture, I'll apologize for misinterpretation. I just figured you'd take the route that most people take in an argument like that by taking a personal shot. But it seems like you weren't going down that path.

Pointless to argue over something like that to be honest. I just stated a few opinions. Since when have opinions been frowned upon in discussion threads? I can't give my opinion on artists? If I just say "Man, this guy is good", the only discussion that arises is "Yep, he good". If I give a countering take on someone as big as Jay Chou by saying that he mumbles and doesn't really sing, then it draws conversation to the thread. No harm intended really. I ain't trying to shove anything down anyone's throat. Just pointing out what I think. If everyone does that, then a discussion arises, and this thread might actually kick off. It only gets stupid when hardcore fans come in and kill you for anything you say.

Anyways, I just stopped by to help revive the thread, drop a couple opinions here and there. Didn't come in to bash. It's not a discussion when everyone agrees. I just don't think the more popular mainstream female artists are that great of singers.

On June 15 2010 15:25 jstar wrote:
Chinese music is just terrible. There's absolutely no originality, barely any talent, and everything in the entertainment industry is just second rate. All they can do is copy what the US and Japanese is doing.

And yes I'm Chinese.

On June 15 2010 15:29 Roffles wrote:

Nah, there's talent. Just gotta dig for it past the overrated popular stars. Also don't agree that the entertainment industry is second rate. If you head overseas to China, you'll see that these people do quite well. There's money to be made in China. Ton of people, lotta cash. Those guys are well off. While at times they lack creativity and originality (I blame people like Wilber Pan and SHE, both popular but VASTLY lacking in originality), you still get people like Jay Chou who's known for his ridiculously great melodies and lyrics.

While people in other areas of the world may not know too much about CPop, I think it's doing rather quite well. The people over there seem to like it, and there's definitely talent. Just gotta dig dig dig. There's bound to be talent with 1.4 billion people, and other neighboring countries that speak Chinese as well.

On June 15 2010 14:12 MorningMusume11 wrote:


I AGREE!!!!!!!! She cutey

On June 15 2010 21:35 haduken wrote:
China (As in Mainland China, Fuck all you posers) actually had a growing metal and rock scene before commercialization and the Taiwanese garbage flood.

There is a lot of raw talents but the sad thing is their music are either too localized or don't get funding that is needed to be develop into mainstream.

Now days, it's just cheap and cost effective to copy shits from other countries, put some cosmetics on it and get a decent looking chick to sing it. It's REALLY REALLY FUCKING sad but half of the country's youth don't know any better, the other half are too busy worrying about other shits to care.

On June 16 2010 15:36 TheMute wrote:
Jay Chou originally mumbled in his first few albums, but I think he's gotten a lot better at actual enunciation, especially in his latest albums. And I reaaally like the Taiwanese in his songs like in Hao Jiu Bu Jian, Liu Lang Shi Ren, and more I can't think of off the top of my head. It just sounds really cool to me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTdszJcEu1Q

And he's coming to the states whooooooooooooo SF BABY

On June 15 2010 12:29 MorningMusume11 wrote:


My question is DO THEY have a hip-hop scene? And no, Jin doesn't count (or does he... after all he's currently signed with UM HK or Universal Music Hong Kong)

And Roffles, I'm the biggest basher in this thread. I make such bashful posts that have to be deleted (Oh Synapse, where are my Vivian pics hmm? ) because they too much. And NO ONE bashes SM as much as I do

Watch me invade this thread with Tibetans (or just A tibetan) because Alan is just too good ~~
(like #1 Oricon Chart good yeah... eat it Charlene)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6wP9hoL8a4

On June 20 2010 15:49 Railxp wrote:

Yeah i have to admit, probably the best singers in china are all Tibetan

On July 03 2010 22:47 Hyaach wrote:
this is good chinese music
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXjaPxA1dXQ

On July 13 2010 03:59 Roffles wrote:

Rofl, I actually like this song for some reason.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoNaU_JX6D8

On August 22 2010 14:41 scintilliaSD wrote:
Anyone have good recommendations for ballad type songs? Some of Wang Leehom's older stuff and Fish Leong's songs are really good. Any other artists similar to that kind of style?