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Canada75 Posts
On June 15 2010 14:07 Roffles wrote: Funny, it seems like you suffer from the inability to interpret your own words. Any you somehow interpreted that as "I guarantee you that you know no singers at all", instead of the obvious meaning "Name the top 5-10 chinese female pop singers you know. I guarantee you that you know nothing (about the chinese music industry)." Go for the syntax, that's all you have anyways. | ||
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
On June 15 2010 14:07 Picture wrote: It doesn't make sense to me. The list looks like its based on popularity, but then that's irrelevant to the argument. But then the list is terrible if its based on singing ability. Of course I based it off popularity. Why would I base something off something as subjective as singing ability? Any list I make based off singing ability can be shot down by you because your tastes are different from mine, which is why this argument arose in the first place. I don't need syntax. Plus, I guarantee you I know much more than you give me credit for. Don't talk as if you know me. Anyways to tredmasta and to everyone here but Picture, sorry for derailing the thread. | ||
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Canada75 Posts
On June 15 2010 14:13 Roffles wrote: Of course I based it off popularity. Why would I base something off something as subjective as singing ability? Any list I make based off singing ability can be shot down by you because your tastes are different from mine, which is why this argument arose in the first place. What was the purpose of listing popular singers? Subjective? LOl. If it is so subjective why do you have to force your opinion onto other people? That Jay Chou is bad. That Twins is bad. That Jin Sha is bad? Oh the irony. There are generally accepted good singers out there, like Jane Zhang as you said. Stop worming your way out and list 5 top female singers vocally. Like I said, you know nothing. | ||
NeverGG
United Kingdom5399 Posts
I'm a lover of the obscurest people ever from the 加油！好男儿 talent show from back in 2006/2007 so most of my favorite artists come from there; Kimi: Zhang Chao: My guiltiest pleasure is BoBo; a duo from 加油！好男儿 who just bought out a new album after two years of mainly doing charity work; Unfortunately most of the Chinese music magazines are flooded with Korean groups/solo singers. Aside from being able to get merchandise for Taiwanese group Fahrenheit, and acts like TOP Combine and Lollipop it's even difficult for me to get domestic merchandise/CDs from the two Chinese import shops here in Myeongdong. They have to do special orders :S. China needs to pay more attention to their domestic talent :/ | ||
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Pitcairn19291 Posts
Pointless to argue over something like that to be honest. I just stated a few opinions. Since when have opinions been frowned upon in discussion threads? I can't give my opinion on artists? If I just say "Man, this guy is good", the only discussion that arises is "Yep, he good". If I give a countering take on someone as big as Jay Chou by saying that he mumbles and doesn't really sing, then it draws conversation to the thread. No harm intended really. I ain't trying to shove anything down anyone's throat. Just pointing out what I think. If everyone does that, then a discussion arises, and this thread might actually kick off. It only gets stupid when hardcore fans come in and kill you for anything you say. Anyways, I just stopped by to help revive the thread, drop a couple opinions here and there. Didn't come in to bash. It's not a discussion when everyone agrees. I just don't think the more popular mainstream female artists are that great of singers. | ||
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Canada75 Posts
On June 15 2010 14:50 Roffles wrote: Anyways, sincerest apologies for thread derailment. And to Picture, I'll apologize for misinterpretation. I just figured you'd take the route that most people take in an argument like that by taking a personal shot. But it seems like you weren't going down that path. Pointless to argue over something like that to be honest. I just stated a few opinions. Since when have opinions been frowned upon in discussion threads? I can't give my opinion on artists? If I just say "Man, this guy is good", the only discussion that arises is "Yep, he good". If I give a countering take on someone as big as Jay Chou by saying that he mumbles and doesn't really sing, then it draws conversation to the thread. No harm intended really. I ain't trying to shove anything down anyone's throat. Just pointing out what I think. If everyone does that, then a discussion arises, and this thread might actually kick off. It only gets stupid when hardcore fans come in and kill you for anything you say. Anyways, I just stopped by to help revive the thread, drop a couple opinions here and there. Didn't come in to bash. It's not a discussion when everyone agrees. I just don't think the more popular mainstream female artists are that great of singers. That's what I want you to do, to give your opinions. Hence why I thought it was ironic you won't list the good singers because it's "subjective". That is completely different from what you originally said, and you are entitled to that opinion. Back on topic, I am surprised she wasn't on your list. (she's good and popular) | ||
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Pitcairn19291 Posts
I'm personally also a fan of Jade Liu's voice. It's just got that soothing feel to it. | ||
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Ixas
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jstar
Canada568 Posts
And yes I'm Chinese. | ||
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Astrogation
United States477 Posts
Autumn's Concerto is my new favorite drama and it had a VERY suitable OST to go with it. All the songs matched with the themes of the drama and created a very emotionally memorable watching experience | ||
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
On June 15 2010 15:25 jstar wrote: Chinese music is just terrible. There's absolutely no originality, barely any talent, and everything in the entertainment industry is just second rate. All they can do is copy what the US and Japanese is doing. And yes I'm Chinese. Nah, there's talent. Just gotta dig for it past the overrated popular stars. Also don't agree that the entertainment industry is second rate. If you head overseas to China, you'll see that these people do quite well. There's money to be made in China. Ton of people, lotta cash. Those guys are well off. While at times they lack creativity and originality (I blame people like Wilber Pan and SHE, both popular but VASTLY lacking in originality), you still get people like Jay Chou who's known for his ridiculously great melodies and lyrics. While people in other areas of the world may not know too much about CPop, I think it's doing rather quite well. The people over there seem to like it, and there's definitely talent. Just gotta dig dig dig. There's bound to be talent with 1.4 billion people, and other neighboring countries that speak Chinese as well. | ||
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On June 15 2010 15:29 Roffles wrote: Nah, there's talent. Just gotta dig for it past the overrated popular stars. Also don't agree that the entertainment industry is second rate. If you head overseas to China, you'll see that these people do quite well. There's money to be made in China. Ton of people, lotta cash. Those guys are well off. While at times they lack creativity and originality (I blame people like Wilber Pan and SHE, both popular but VASTLY lacking in originality), you still get people like Jay Chou who's known for his ridiculously great melodies and lyrics. While people in other areas of the world may not know too much about CPop, I think it's doing rather quite well. The people over there seem to like it, and there's definitely talent. Just gotta dig dig dig. There's bound to be talent with 1.4 billion people, and other neighboring countries that speak Chinese as well. Well even the hosts of those celeb/idol/random stuff tv shows like 快乐大本营‘s he jun and even xe na(also the person who helped her *cough husband cough*... I mean 张杰 to fame). + Show Spoiler + I really mean husband | ||
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haduken
Australia8267 Posts
There is a lot of raw talents but the sad thing is their music are either too localized or don't get funding that is needed to be develop into mainstream. Now days, it's just cheap and cost effective to copy shits from other countries, put some cosmetics on it and get a decent looking chick to sing it. It's REALLY REALLY FUCKING sad but half of the country's youth don't know any better, the other half are too busy worrying about other shits to care. | ||
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DarthThienAn
United States2734 Posts
:22 to :24ish makes me think of TossGirl. lol. | ||
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Azarkon
United States21060 Posts
On June 15 2010 21:35 haduken wrote: China (As in Mainland China, Fuck all you posers) actually had a growing metal and rock scene before commercialization and the Taiwanese garbage flood. There is a lot of raw talents but the sad thing is their music are either too localized or don't get funding that is needed to be develop into mainstream. Now days, it's just cheap and cost effective to copy shits from other countries, put some cosmetics on it and get a decent looking chick to sing it. It's REALLY REALLY FUCKING sad but half of the country's youth don't know any better, the other half are too busy worrying about other shits to care. Sounds like they're too busy making a buck (or a yuan, lol?) importing foreign music at the moment. It's a good plan for short-term profits, probably the easiest way to make money as all you have to do is pay attention to what's popular elsewhere - quick and low-risk. There's a catch though. Eventually the competition over foreign distribution rights will become too fierce, and some companies will have to bow out. At that point, local talent will become more attractive. Also, the public's discernment is bad, in general, for pop. Just look at the US music scene for an example. It's part of why I rarely listen to pop, though I am oddly a fan of film music, especially orchestral, which I guess is the modern pop version of classical. | ||
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TheMute
United States458 Posts
And he's coming to the states whooooooooooooo SF BABY | ||
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Deleted User 76781
101 Posts
On June 16 2010 15:36 TheMute wrote: Jay Chou originally mumbled in his first few albums, but I think he's gotten a lot better at actual enunciation, especially in his latest albums. And I reaaally like the Taiwanese in his songs like in Hao Jiu Bu Jian, Liu Lang Shi Ren, and more I can't think of off the top of my head. It just sounds really cool to me. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTdszJcEu1Q And he's coming to the states whooooooooooooo SF BABY Jay Chou is reallytalented in every thing that has to do with entertainment aka directing, song writin, composing. But his cninese needs some work. | ||
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SoManyDeadLings
Canada255 Posts
It's like watch SC one beta one post, and the OSL finals the next. | ||
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Ixas
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Old but still loving it. korean phrase at the start makes it even more interesting. | ||
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