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phosphorylation
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2935 Posts
November 21 2009 23:06 GMT
#1021
On November 21 2009 10:25 zulu_nation8 wrote:
that 2002 korean wc video



makes me so so angry everytime i watch it.

That is one biased video. Italians were dirtier in that game. There was nothing wrong with the Italy game. I will admit that Spain game had a few bad ref calls.
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Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
November 21 2009 23:23 GMT
#1022
What exactly did the italians do that was dirty in that game?
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Klogon
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
MURICA15980 Posts
November 21 2009 23:42 GMT
#1023
A lot. There are tons of videos made showing the dirty sides of both sides, but do we really need to go back to that?
phosphorylation
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2935 Posts
November 21 2009 23:43 GMT
#1024
A similar video can be made from Korean's perspective. If i recall correctly, two korean players had to put a head band to stop the bleeding on their heads.
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Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
November 22 2009 00:08 GMT
#1025
Hmm, my memory from that game might very well be skewed by my bias.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
Sadir
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Vatican City State1176 Posts
November 22 2009 00:16 GMT
#1026
if anybody tells me that south korea wasn't immensely favoured by referees in 2002 I think I might lose it
they did play quite well nontheless
phosphorylation
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2935 Posts
November 22 2009 00:40 GMT
#1027
What games besides the Spain game (and disputably/arguably) Italy game did you see such "immense" favoritism?
I recall seeing none, besides 3-4 calls that benefited Korea in the aforementioned games.
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Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
November 22 2009 00:45 GMT
#1028
I must say though that I really liked how the media in Spain ridiculed Italy when they made claims about biased refereeing, and then when it happened to them, all of a sudden Italy were right! XD

That entire tournament is a horrible memory from an italian viewpoint. They had a number of goals incorrectly disallowed in the group stage (there's a funny video of that), and there were some dubious calls in that game against Korea (Korea's penalty, Italy's disallowed golden goal, Totti's second yellow, the obstruction against Totti just outside the box, the fact that the referee (Moreno) has been banned for fishy shit). Ah, making excuses eases the pain. But nothing eases the pain more than the fact that the Karma wheel turned against Hiddink 4 years later (Italy-Australia 2006). Payback's a bitch, ey?

As long as no one says anything about how the entire history of football boils down to luck, I'll stop talking about and defending Italy now.
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ilj.psa
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Peru3081 Posts
November 22 2009 00:59 GMT
#1029
on a side note Real Madrid vs Barca on a week, Ronaldo recovered and dunno really how serious is this but Messi went off today by request, hope its not an injury.

im looking forward to this match
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
November 22 2009 01:29 GMT
#1030
Ya, El Clasico should be great; 22 world class players on one pitch at the same time.

Damn, all this WC history talk has gotten me all worked up; I'm already super excited for the upcoming WC! Italy has a weaker team than last time around, they lack creativity; no trequartista, no Nr10. The defensive part looks pretty damn solid as usual, but in order for them to have a realistic shot at retaining the title I think they either need a Totti comeback or for Lippi to stop his stupid grudge against Cassano. I don't know how much you Premier League fanatics has seen of Cassano, but he is pretty much single handedly making Sampdoria a top team. It is not a stretch saying he's the best italian footballer right now.

[image loading]


Lol.
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Telemako
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Spain1637 Posts
November 22 2009 01:48 GMT
#1031
I'm glad Cassano is in such a good shape, he is the wasted biggest talent I've seen in my life.

Btw, Messi is injured, misses Tuesday match vs Inter (Barça is out if they lose) and he may miss Real Madrid on Sunday too =(
I've been around since it all started, and it feels good
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
November 22 2009 01:52 GMT
#1032
On November 22 2009 10:48 Telemako wrote:
I'm glad Cassano is in such a good shape, he is the wasted biggest talent I've seen in my life.

Btw, Messi is injured, misses Tuesday match vs Inter (Barça is out if they lose) and he may miss Real Madrid on Sunday too =(

Aww, shit. Do you know what Zlatan's status is?
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ilj.psa
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Peru3081 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-22 02:50:07
November 22 2009 02:36 GMT
#1033
Zlatan would had been a huge wasted talent if he stayed in Serie-A , now that he went to Barcelona i wouldn't say that at all, he's were he's suppose to be. prolly right now in the top 3 best players of the world imo.

the biggest talent with Cassano imo would be Villa. that guy can be a legend if he goes to the right club , but he's staying in Valencia
Breavman
Profile Joined September 2004
Sweden598 Posts
November 22 2009 04:06 GMT
#1034
On November 22 2009 11:36 ilj.psa wrote:
Zlatan would had been a huge wasted talent if he stayed in Serie-A , now that he went to Barcelona i wouldn't say that at all, he's were he's suppose to be. prolly right now in the top 3 best players of the world imo.

the biggest talent with Cassano imo would be Villa. that guy can be a legend if he goes to the right club , but he's staying in Valencia


That's pretty backwards imo. The players who stay with their original teams are the true legends even if they never win champions league. The history of football is first about the world cup and second about the national leagues. Champions league is originaly a money making scamn. Don't get me wrong, I love watching it because it's top class football, but if you ask me who won it five or ten years ago, I don't know and I don't care that much either.
MK
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States496 Posts
November 22 2009 04:44 GMT
#1035
Incredible, in France, Henry's hand is the biggest political issue these days LOL
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ilj.psa
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Peru3081 Posts
November 22 2009 05:32 GMT
#1036
On November 22 2009 13:06 Breavman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2009 11:36 ilj.psa wrote:
Zlatan would had been a huge wasted talent if he stayed in Serie-A , now that he went to Barcelona i wouldn't say that at all, he's were he's suppose to be. prolly right now in the top 3 best players of the world imo.

the biggest talent with Cassano imo would be Villa. that guy can be a legend if he goes to the right club , but he's staying in Valencia


That's pretty backwards imo. The players who stay with their original teams are the true legends even if they never win champions league. The history of football is first about the world cup and second about the national leagues. Champions league is originaly a money making scamn. Don't get me wrong, I love watching it because it's top class football, but if you ask me who won it five or ten years ago, I don't know and I don't care that much either.

yea but i was talking about legends in football as a whole, they may be recognize in their small teams but if they don't make that big step to a better team they will not get much exposure or recognition to be on "legend" status on the whole football scene.

every great player had play in their time at great teams, Pele played in Santos , before Santos was world-class team unlike today. Maradona, Cruyff , Di Stefano ,etc.

Im just dissapointed to see Villa waste his talent on a team that will not even fight for the CL or else.
don't get me wrong i think Valencia is a good team but imo he can perfectly succeed on any top european team nowadays.
PhilGood2DaY
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany7424 Posts
November 22 2009 09:36 GMT
#1037
sick sick sick sick goal
hatred outlives the hateful
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28866 Posts
November 22 2009 10:01 GMT
#1038
yea fletchers goal didnt get enough love
that one is absolutely incredible..
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warding
Profile Joined August 2005
Portugal2396 Posts
November 22 2009 14:07 GMT
#1039
Link to fletcher's goal http://tinypic.com/player.php?v=2yyw6dl&s=6
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-22 15:25:25
November 22 2009 15:01 GMT
#1040
Roflcopter! This is too good to be true. Totti is back from injury and gets himself a hattrick within 30 minutes. XD 19 goals and 6 assists in 13 games. Football bonjwa indeed. ¨'

And Milan-Cagliari is a fucking great game. 4-2 thus far and Ronaldinho is kicking ass.
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