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tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19263 Posts
April 18 2012 23:08 GMT
#21421
check check
Liquipediaasante sana squash banana
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19263 Posts
April 19 2012 00:03 GMT
#21422
I went for a small roamu, my goal was to get better at flying underwater spaceships because I'm pretty bad at it. So I took out the dual MAR SFI because fuck you that's why. Aeth just got murdered by these guys (click) so I know what they have and I figure my frig muncher linked fast as fuck SFI can kill a Stiletto before shit gets bad. Turns out I can't (but I got close). And then eve decides I shouldn't warp off so the Stiletto points my pod and I die
Liquipediaasante sana squash banana
Body_Shield
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada3373 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-19 01:57:45
April 19 2012 01:57 GMT
#21423
http://teamliquid.killmail.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=13109950


VICTORY FOR THE MIGHTY DEIMOS


When I tackled the Sabre, they decloaked 2 Rapiers, 2 Machs, and a bomber. I was very alarmed and confused, this surely would turn out badly for my sweet Deimos. I defeated the honorable battle Sabre swiftly, as he burned straight for me and I for him, and was then pointed by a Stilleto. The Sabre was the only one with the scram, so the Rapiers had only time to burn my shields the Macharials just locked me, and then my MWD was back online, providing me ample transversal.

Aeth and Johnny landed, expecting to have to take revenge for my Deimos. But then both rapiers cloaked, one mach cloaked and the other warped off; I suppose the bomber went somewhere else as well.

Then that was it, and Kwark was somewhere, and fighting happened after this when another gang showed up, and I tackled an Onyx while Kwark showed it some pretty lights.

Summary for the Fight:
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So, five-card stud, nothing wild... and the sky's the limit
mathsucks
Profile Joined January 2011
194 Posts
April 19 2012 02:30 GMT
#21424
On April 19 2012 02:58 abominare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2012 02:42 Snarfs wrote:
abominaire wrote:
Ignoring payout value differences (you take a nice cut for cash or a smaller cut liquidating yourself via npc taxes). if you bought 9 tickets you would have about a 56% chance of turning 378m into 525m. So in theory if you had an infinite amount of capital to run an infinite amount of runs, you would technically make money of the long run.

Expected Value

E[gain from 378m bet] = (-378m) * (0.44) + (147m) * (0.56) = -84m

I'm not sure what I missed here but I don't see how you could be making money in the long run if the statistical expected outcome of each of your bets is that you lose 84m isk.



Payoff value is 525, such that E=127.68m.

Edit: I overlooked this entirely. Too complacent with structures that just double your money. The problem herein lies that you need 2-3 wins to cover a loss. In the older days of blink there were a handful of items in which the spread allowed for a much closer attempt to cover your losses. One of the frigs or cruisers used to pay at just under doubling your money(50%+1 tickets was almost half the value blink would put on your account including their credit bonus) , thus there was a handful of people happily grinding blink like that.

I feel bad at math.


I feel ya man.
"Perception is strong and sight weak. In strategy, it is important to see distant things as if they were close and to take a distanced view of close things" -Unknown || www.twitch.tv/scmathsux
Body_Shield
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada3373 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-19 02:34:39
April 19 2012 02:34 GMT
#21425
mathsucks


You were made for us
So, five-card stud, nothing wild... and the sky's the limit
mathsucks
Profile Joined January 2011
194 Posts
April 19 2012 02:39 GMT
#21426
On April 19 2012 11:34 Body_Shield wrote:
Show nested quote +
mathsucks


You were made for us


Good thing I'm in I gotta get in on the rifters though! Mine blew up a couple nights ago on a short corp run
"Perception is strong and sight weak. In strategy, it is important to see distant things as if they were close and to take a distanced view of close things" -Unknown || www.twitch.tv/scmathsux
pahndah
Profile Joined August 2009
1193 Posts
April 19 2012 02:41 GMT
#21427
On April 19 2012 11:34 Body_Shield wrote:
Show nested quote +
mathsucks


You were made for Abom


FTFY?
Body_Shield
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada3373 Posts
April 19 2012 02:42 GMT
#21428
That's pretty frightening if you back off the context a bit.

So, five-card stud, nothing wild... and the sky's the limit
pahndah
Profile Joined August 2009
1193 Posts
April 19 2012 03:43 GMT
#21429
I will leave you to your own assumptions.
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34507 Posts
April 19 2012 07:12 GMT
#21430
http://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/sfuc0/winning_blink/

47 comment discussion on what ueberlisk was doing with that bhaalgorn blink.

Let's keep it going ~
Moderator
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44387 Posts
April 19 2012 15:27 GMT
#21431
Yes, but statistically speaking, you're probably more likely to end up with more if you spread your tickets out even a little bit. Look at it this way: if he'd bought one less ticket on that bhaalgorn, he almost certainly would've won, and he could've put that extra ticket towards a different blink and had a chance of doubling (or more!) the amount he got.


But I'm not suggesting he split them evenly. It's obviously in his favour to buy the majority of the tickets on one item (the bhaalgorn). But if he were to take a small number out of there, he'd almost certainly still win the bhaalgorn draw, while having a chance of winning another, second draw.


lets say he has 240 tickets worth of money
instead of doing 15 blinks with 16 tickets, wouldn't 16 blinks with 15 tickets be better?
and at what point would that stop working in his favour if it did
not trolling, you seem to have statistics down and i dont know how to figure it out
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Ueberlisk
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland455 Posts
April 19 2012 15:47 GMT
#21432
statistically i could not care less. i bought overpriced ships with free isk i won. deal with it.
I got honor. - Johnny Business
abominare
Profile Joined March 2010
United States1216 Posts
April 19 2012 15:54 GMT
#21433
On April 19 2012 16:12 Firebolt145 wrote:
http://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/sfuc0/winning_blink/

47 comment discussion on what ueberlisk was doing with that bhaalgorn blink.

Let's keep it going ~



I'm having too much fun convincing Reddit that I RP as a Gallente Convert to Amarr while I PI.

http://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/sgb7k/do_you_move_your_extractors_when_resources/
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34507 Posts
April 19 2012 15:57 GMT
#21434
On April 20 2012 00:47 Ueberlisk wrote:
statistically i could not care less. i bought overpriced ships with free isk i won. deal with it.

Statistically you're doing things the 'right' way. Keep at it, let the rest of them argue it all ~
Moderator
Mysticus
Profile Joined April 2011
298 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-19 19:47:43
April 19 2012 19:44 GMT
#21435
On April 20 2012 00:57 Firebolt145 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2012 00:47 Ueberlisk wrote:
statistically i could not care less. i bought overpriced ships with free isk i won. deal with it.

Statistically you're doing things the 'right' way. Keep at it, let the rest of them argue it all ~


You did the right thing. The margin blink takes is built into the price of the tickets. Regardless of your approach, over enough time you will always be paying 20% above ship value for every ship you win. When you try to maximize your returns with the finite amount of runs you get, you build more and more risk into a smaller and smaller chance of a greater return to your self.

If you split into 16 blinks with 16 tickets each you'd still have a ~35% chance of getting nothing.
TurpinOS
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada1223 Posts
April 19 2012 20:10 GMT
#21436
Today I have learned plenty of cool stuff in eve.

1. A catalyst is not a very good ship to engage a Megathron
2. Oracles are not very good ships against 50 sentries
3. Vigilants are very cool ships

This is going to be one seriously expensive (isk wise) summer.
http://eve.znaor.hr/pimpmydomi/
Reborn8u
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1761 Posts
April 19 2012 22:04 GMT
#21437
Gentlemen, things may get more interesting very soon. According to this http://www.evenews24.com/2012/04/19/raw-northern-hostilities-comes-to-an-end/ the war in the north is over. Which means tons of CFC fellows will be heading back home victorious. I expect to see more of them involved in random ratting, site running, and roams around our sov (ec-).

Let's give the goons the welcome home they deserve after a hard fought victory
:)
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
April 19 2012 22:41 GMT
#21438
On April 20 2012 00:54 abominare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2012 16:12 Firebolt145 wrote:
http://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/sfuc0/winning_blink/

47 comment discussion on what ueberlisk was doing with that bhaalgorn blink.

Let's keep it going ~



I'm having too much fun convincing Reddit that I RP as a Gallente Convert to Amarr while I PI.

http://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/sgb7k/do_you_move_your_extractors_when_resources/


Haha, too funny
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
hagon
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom556 Posts
April 19 2012 22:51 GMT
#21439
On April 20 2012 07:04 Reborn8u wrote:
Gentlemen, things may get more interesting very soon. According to this http://www.evenews24.com/2012/04/19/raw-northern-hostilities-comes-to-an-end/ the war in the north is over. Which means tons of CFC fellows will be heading back home victorious. I expect to see more of them involved in random ratting, site running, and roams around our sov (ec-).

Let's give the goons the welcome home they deserve after a hard fought victory


I think you kinda misplace your position in the scheme of things
Reborn8u
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1761 Posts
April 19 2012 22:59 GMT
#21440
On April 20 2012 07:51 hagon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2012 07:04 Reborn8u wrote:
Gentlemen, things may get more interesting very soon. According to this http://www.evenews24.com/2012/04/19/raw-northern-hostilities-comes-to-an-end/ the war in the north is over. Which means tons of CFC fellows will be heading back home victorious. I expect to see more of them involved in random ratting, site running, and roams around our sov (ec-).

Let's give the goons the welcome home they deserve after a hard fought victory


I think you kinda misplace your position in the scheme of things



What are you talking about? You don't know your place, I am High Commander ruler of all the stars. Eve is MY GAME, don't forget it.


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