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Bill307
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Canada9103 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-04-26 21:05:03
April 26 2008 20:51 GMT
#221
Jesus Christ: a standing 1080 in AH2:

+ Show Spoiler [standing 1080] +



I have enough trouble doing a standing 720 :S.


Also of possible interest: a video showing every AH2 character's "Critical Heart", kind of a level 3 super (it consumes 3 supers, or 5 in Maori's case).

+ Show Spoiler [all critical hearts] +




Lastly, and most awesomely, a combo exhibition of all 6 new characters. First it shows each character's basic, all-purpose combo that gets used in real matches. Then it shows a bunch of arcana-specific, flashy combos. My personal favourites are the Posion teleport combo for Zenia at 2:53, and the brief 292-hit Fire combo for Dorothy at 6:30 (it lasts about 3 seconds ).

+ Show Spoiler [new char combo vid] +


Bill307
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Canada9103 Posts
April 26 2008 21:34 GMT
#222
On April 22 2008 05:48 thedeadhaji wrote:
"The result... I think you can see why I've been saying MOV as the hands down #1 from over a year ago. Even then he hasn't fully shown his usual abilities. Probably about 70%. Theoretically the ultimate is Kuroda living inside MOV's brain, but that's another story." -- Mester

Interestingly, MOV and Kuroda are going to be playing on the same team in this year's SBO.

Team Ino JAPAN:
Ino (Makoto)
MOV (Chun Li)
Kuroda (Akuma)

Scary.

Someone on SRK also posted:
A person who went and played with everyone for hours after the tourney, told me that Kuroda is indeed the best in Japan right now.
Said he saw him double perfect Nukis chun with his akuma (100% nonstop rushdown) and then continue to beat him after.
He also told me he would go back to his turtling ways against ken.


Possible Kuroda-killing teams:
Boss (MA), Ochibi (YU), Rikimaru (CH)
RX (UR), Nuki (CH), KO (YA?) - not confirmed to be an actual team yet

Maybe Haji can shed some more light on this whole situation? o.Oa
KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14899 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-04-27 00:31:54
April 27 2008 00:31 GMT
#223
all 3 of those teams are terrifying
assuming nuki is in playing shape
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
April 27 2008 00:38 GMT
#224
drunken and can't read.

will check tomorrow.
KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14899 Posts
April 27 2008 01:33 GMT
#225
hahaha haji such a hero
i just read through the first half of the original SFIII thread....fucking epic reading the SBO5 commentary
Bill307
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Canada9103 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-04-27 03:14:17
April 27 2008 02:59 GMT
#226
Hahaha, yeah SBO5 was NUTS. It was mainly because RX's team had no top-tier characters yet were beasting nonetheless. No matter how much awesome comes out of the games this year, without a non-top-tier team to root for, the hype won't quite reach the level it attained back then T_T.

Still looking forward to it, though. Especially Kuroda's Gouki. I've seen his Gouki before in those Kuroda DVDs (my friend has most of them) but it was against lackluster opponents. Now we'll hopefully get to see him playing against top-caliber opponents. *prays for another live stream this year*

lol, gj Haji.

Edit: Hey, does anyone want to see me doing combos or something with Kira? I have my friend's PS2 for the weekend with Arcana Heart US, and I'm thinking of getting either a webcam or a digital camera that I can use to record stuff.
KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14899 Posts
April 27 2008 05:25 GMT
#227
bill offhand, do you have a list of the qualified teams for this year's SBO? i've been looking around but couldn't find one

also off hand, do you know who the losers were in SBO1? I recognized spellmaster J but i couldn't recognize the other faces in the video
blue urien (tokido? dunno what he looks like) and i forget the chun also
Bill307
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Canada9103 Posts
April 27 2008 05:52 GMT
#228
Not sure about the losers in SBO1, but here's the SRK topic I've been getting my SBO6 info from:

http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=153617


Man, the dialog in the US version of Arcana Heart is hilarious and random! Here's an example from Konoha's storyline:

Kamui: Konoha, you are strong, but I don't want you getting involved. Please, let me handle this alone.
*Konoha knocks her out in a vicious fight*
Konoha: Woof! Woof! Don't be ridiculous, Miss Kamui. Konoha can handle this while you rest.
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
April 27 2008 10:47 GMT
#229
SBO '08 Teams

Qualification is in two stages. First there are the "store prelims". Once a team wins that, several of those teams come together @ a differnt place at the "block finals" and the winner of that will win a ticket to the SBO finals.


Passed

Inoue Japan
Inoue (Mak)
Kurado (Gou)
MOV (Chun)

School of Yamada ☆ 3rd Strike Club
Nanaichi (Ken)
Eda (Dud)
Aruka (Ibu)



Other Teams

Saint Thanatos Academy
Principal Sei (Sei) (Elena)
Vice Principal Thanatos (Thanatos) (Oro)
Student Council President PinoAB7 (PinoAB7) (Necro)

Oka ☆
Tsubo (Chun)
KZ (Yang)
Knights (Yun)

Draft Beer, first glass
Out (Q)
GOGOV (Chun)
Terunosuke (Al)

The Supreme Magic Bullet cannot be Parried
Thunder-Lord Vanaoh (Ryu)
Kera (Mak)
Pierre (Ur)

Champion Road ~The Way~
Rikimaru (Chun)
Boss (Makoto)
Ochibi (Yun)

We came to beat Kera-kun
Higa (Ibu)
Maggy (Dud)
Genki (Al)



I skipped teams that I had no idea who the players were at all.
SayaSP
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Laos5494 Posts
April 27 2008 16:32 GMT
#230
On April 27 2008 11:59 Bill307 wrote:
Hey, does anyone want to see me doing combos or something with Kira? I have my friend's PS2 for the weekend with Arcana Heart US, and I'm thinking of getting either a webcam or a digital camera that I can use to record stuff.

Zomg can you, I just got it and I'm now realizing (again) how bad I am at every game I pick up :D
[iHs]SSP | I-NO-KI BOM-BA-YE | のヮの http://tinyurl.com/MLIStheCV , MLIS.
Bill307
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Canada9103 Posts
April 27 2008 18:50 GMT
#231
Thanks Haji!

Saya: Okay. I'll probably go out and buy a webcam or a digital camera or something this afternoon.


Another AH US quote:
"I am programmed to win at laundry." - Mei Fang
Bill307
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Canada9103 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-04-28 05:44:52
April 28 2008 05:26 GMT
#232
On April 28 2008 01:32 SayaSP wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2008 11:59 Bill307 wrote:
Hey, does anyone want to see me doing combos or something with Kira? I have my friend's PS2 for the weekend with Arcana Heart US, and I'm thinking of getting either a webcam or a digital camera that I can use to record stuff.

Zomg can you, I just got it and I'm now realizing (again) how bad I am at every game I pick up :D

Voila: a "combo video" (not really) that I made, plus the description from Youtube.

AHF - Earth Kira combo: 0 homing; 0 supers; ~10,500 damage (43% of full health)

+ Show Spoiler [Bill Earth Kira combo] +



A boring video of myself doing a difficult Earth Kira combo and two variations of it. Do not expect to be entertained. This is a combo you could actually use in a real match, if not for the strict timing involved. (Well, "strict" relative to Kira's usual combos, at least. ) It definitely looks a lot easier than it really is.

The combo in question consumes 0 homing and 0 supers, yet deals an extraordinary ~10,500 points of damage. There are many ways to exceed this in Arcana Heart, but they usually require multiple homing bars and/or super bars.

The difficulty is in the timing of the 5B xx Earth fist cancel. If you cancel 5B right away, then after the Earth fist they'll land before your next 5B hits them. So you have to cancel 5B near the end of its cancel window.

This video consists of three combos. The first is the standard 0 homing 0 super combo with an ideal ending that leaves your opponent on the ground (this ending works up-close only). If you need a little more damage, then the second video shows how you can use 1 homing bar to repeat the combo and deal an extra ~1,900 damage. The third video shows how you can combo into the Earth fists from midscreen, though at the expense of 2 homing bars.

A major downside of this combo is that if your opponent activates their Arcana right before an Earth fist, then they get a free combo on you.

The exact combos are:

#1 (~10,500 damage)
(5B 41236D)x3 2B 623A

#2 (~12,400 damage)
(5B 41236D)x3 5B [7HC] j.A j.2C land 2B 623A (5B 41236D)x3

#3 (~10,400 damage)
5B [7HC] (j.A j.2C land 2A)x2 5B [7HC] j.A j.2C land 2B 623A (5B 41236D)x3
SayaSP
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Laos5494 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-04-28 06:11:36
April 28 2008 06:09 GMT
#233
Oh wow that's pretty sick :o. I'm kind of surprised I know what the numbers and stuff mean.

Edit: Oh man if there really are streams of the SBO I want to see that!
[iHs]SSP | I-NO-KI BOM-BA-YE | のヮの http://tinyurl.com/MLIStheCV , MLIS.
Bill307
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Canada9103 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-04-28 08:11:24
April 28 2008 08:03 GMT
#234
YEAH BABY YEAH BABY YEAH BABY

+ Show Spoiler +

YEAH BABY YEAH BABY YEAH BABY YEAH BABY YEAH BABY YEAH BABY YEAH BABY YEAH BABY YEAH BABY YEAH BABY YEAH BABY YEAH BABY YEAH BABY YEAH BABY


I JUST GOT THE 11TH HIT OF LIESELOTTE'S MIDSCREEN COMBO TO CONNECT! GOD DAMN THAT WAS HARD!

Her midscreen combo is like, a standard target combo ending in the doll being tossed out at the opponent, then an instant-air-dash (IAD) which I keep messing up, four more hits, and then the hardest part: you have to press 2B+C to simultaneously knock the opponent towards the ground with Lieselotte's 2C while the doll does her own quick 2B attack (as opposed to its slower C attack), then you have to press 5B again just before the opponent hits the ground so that the doll does its 5B attack and keeps the opponent in the air so you can keep juggling them. And you have to do all of this while holding forward, so it's really 3B+C then 6B.

Next time I practice Lieselotte, I've gotta set up my camera so that you guys can hear how excited I was IRL .

Now I have to try to do it more than once, maybe even consistently, lol.


Btw, glad you liked the video, Saya ^^.
myrmidon2537
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Philippines2188 Posts
April 28 2008 09:11 GMT
#235
Thanks haji (I stopped by that thread too bill ^_^)

omfg @ team inoue and champion's road. But I'm really hoping for KO to win one finally.

or at least I wanna see Daigo/Hayao/J or something like that ^_^
IPT.PromilKid: I'm only good at Marvel
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
April 28 2008 09:27 GMT
#236
I thought J retired, or is he still dabbling around? I guess he was already 'retired' last year but was playing in qualifiers anyways.

I think Ume is like... working at a mahjong parlor and doesn't play anymore? He'll prolly be in ST though.
SayaSP
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Laos5494 Posts
April 28 2008 16:07 GMT
#237
GJ Bill. The videos are nice because I'm still trying to learn stuff and I'm pretty inexperienced in fighting games in general
[iHs]SSP | I-NO-KI BOM-BA-YE | のヮの http://tinyurl.com/MLIStheCV , MLIS.
Bill307
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Canada9103 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-04-28 19:39:17
April 28 2008 19:34 GMT
#238
TY. You might want to take a look at SRK's Arcana Heart topic, specifically the posts from page 241 onwards, where lots of people new to AH started asking a lot of questions. You might be able to find a bunch of info on whichever character(s) you're trying to learn.

By the way, I've been playing fighting games for only 16 months now, starting with Third Strike in January 2007. So don't feel discouraged: imo fighting games are a lot easier to learn than StarCraft. Possibly their best and worst attribute is that you need to have competition in your local geographic area. On one hand, you might never play some of the people you meet on forums (or play them only once or twice a year at big events). On the other hand, when you play in-person with a bunch of friends or in a larger group, the atmosphere and social aspect make it sooo much more fun than any online game of SC.
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
April 28 2008 22:03 GMT
#239
so I'm not 100% about the details of this...

but apparently 3s has L-cancelling (land-cancel) -___-
some moves are L-cancellable and some aren't.

Source: Boss/MOV
Bill307
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Canada9103 Posts
April 28 2008 23:46 GMT
#240
I thought "L-cancel" meant "lag-cancel"? Guess we'll need to ask Zapling about that.

Anyway... I've always been a little unclear about the details of how landing in 3s works after you do a move in the air, or when you do a move on the way down. Even after reading the topic about it on SRK. :S

Once you find more details, I'd definitely like to see them!
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