EPTThe rugby powers are playing today. New Zealand, Australia and England. If you plan on watching don't miss today!
Rugby World Cup
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DarkYoDA
United States1347 Posts
The rugby powers are playing today. New Zealand, Australia and England. If you plan on watching don't miss today! | ||
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haduken
Australia8267 Posts
Australia is playing Japan next. lol poor Japan, why do they suck at this when they produce so many sumos. New Zealand is going to win now that France's invincble sphere on home soil is shattered. | ||
Manifesto7
Osaka27149 Posts
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zurg
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gogo england... >_< cant watch the england game today | ||
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FirstProbe
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New Zealand is going to crush Italy... | ||
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fbs
United Kingdom2476 Posts
One thing is for sure Eng are not going to retain this trophy. | ||
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Kassios
France1424 Posts
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Boblion
France8043 Posts
Hopefully i had a bad feeling about this match and i didnt bet on France  Now we need to rape Ireland ( will be impossible if we dont play better ), Georgia and Namibia ...Seriously we fucking MuST to win the World cup because expectations are huge among the population and our team ( on the paper ) is #2 or #3. On September 08 2007 17:30 FirstProbe wrote: South Africa is the only threat to New Zealand New Zealand is going to crush Italy... Before the match vs Argentina i thought that we could beat New-Zealand. I'm not that sure now . This sucks .... | ||
Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
ez money imo it's south africa's year, but it'd be great if NZ wins - esp since we got the next world cup | ||
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Boblion
France8043 Posts
On September 08 2007 18:26 Plexa wrote: rofl, a friend of mine has a $100 bet that france will win the world cup haha ez money Hahahah if France manges to win that would be fun :D. Seriously betting on France before this match seemed a good idea ( we destroyed England ) and the team was in top shape. But now yea you can laught. However i think that Argentina is our Nemesis and we will play better against others teams. | ||
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Energies
Australia3225 Posts
Australia has the worlds best line-out. So what you do is say your props are injured and call for uncontested scrums. Congratulations you have just taken out the Kiwis' strength. Naturally, I am going for the Wallabies! | ||
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Boblion
France8043 Posts
On September 08 2007 18:39 Energies wrote: So what you do is say your props are injured and call for uncontested scrums. Congratulations you have just taken out the Kiwis' strength. zomG haxxor !!! i will make a complaint to the refere  | ||
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Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
then we'd be like T_T! and lose everything i dont get it... we love that guy so much... | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
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Daigomi
South Africa4316 Posts
On September 08 2007 19:40 Slayer91 wrote: Ireland France and Argentina all in the same group, thats like the savior/testie/mondy group You mean that's like a PJ/Testie/Mondy group. Definitely no Korean's in there | ||
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FirstProbe
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On September 08 2007 18:39 Energies wrote: New Zealand's strong point is by far the scrum and their ability to always get possession. Besides that everything else is reasonable, but they have a crap line-out. Australia has the worlds best line-out. So what you do is say your props are injured and call for uncontested scrums. Congratulations you have just taken out the Kiwis' strength. Naturally, I am going for the Wallabies! New Zealand also has the best attacking back-line imo. Having said that, World Cups aren't won by having a strong attack, but rather a solid defense, and a self-assuredness which I think New Zealand has this year. Graham Henry has been preparing them for some time now, and if it weren't for the recent rise of the South African team, I'd have said New Zealand were outright favourites to win. You'll see! | ||
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oHInsane
France727 Posts
Watching it on french TV was really, REALLY a pain in the ass. Our commentatoris kept saying that it was going to be an easy match and even at the end, they were saying that we should be happy because it is the first game and we get the defensive point bonus. So now, i am gonna listen to it on the radio which is far more interesting. New Zealand is for sure, a big contender for the world cup as usual but they often played it mediumly in the past, so i don't know. As a france loyal fan, i hope we will show up with better strenghts in the next games. This french team has potential so I hope we will do better next time. Good luck to all the teams. | ||
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DarkYoDA
United States1347 Posts
Last 4 meetings Italy got trashed, lets see how this goes [edit] 1 min 13 secs Kiwis 7-0... wow | ||
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Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
62-7 to NZ lol rape (3/4's of the way in) | ||
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Kassios
France1424 Posts
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haduken
Australia8267 Posts
interestingly enough, Japan doesn't look that bad atm. | ||
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Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
japan's holding their own against australia :O quite cool - making for an interesting game although everyone is thinking its all australia still... i think japan may be able to scare aus at the very least atm Aus 6-0 Japan about 15mins in | ||
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haduken
Australia8267 Posts
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haduken
Australia8267 Posts
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Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
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Plexa
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Energies
Australia3225 Posts
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Energies
Australia3225 Posts
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haduken
Australia8267 Posts
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haduken
Australia8267 Posts
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Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
many many times better than italy against NZ but it's interesting to see aussie's play atm.. japan has had some very very good defence against a strong australian attack (75% possession -_-;;;  but i can't help but feel that australia won't cut it this year..but yano, people say that every year interesting point by the commentator; australia haven't play a game since july o.O! they haven't prepared as well as other teams for this andddd australia has this firmly in their grasp.. (scored a couple seconds into 2nd half) | ||
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Genjimaru
Canada515 Posts
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fbs
United Kingdom2476 Posts
Glad Scotland are playing at home vs NZ so it might not be so embarrassing | ||
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DarkYoDA
United States1347 Posts
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fbs
United Kingdom2476 Posts
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DarkYoDA
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haduken
Australia8267 Posts
i was expecting a try then they fucked up the pass and canada scored a try by countering all the way. half time 9 - 12 canada leads. | ||
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haduken
Australia8267 Posts
good game so far | ||
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haduken
Australia8267 Posts
42 - 17 Wales won | ||
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Elsi
United Kingdom8173 Posts
Fair play to Canada and USA you guys did well! Come on Wales, big match neext week vs Aus! | ||
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RowdierBob
Australia13007 Posts
Union is so fucking boring compared to league though. Such a soft game. Go Manly. | ||
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haduken
Australia8267 Posts
some fucking retarded calls by the refs against Samoa. | ||
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RowdierBob
Australia13007 Posts
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~chut~
France1317 Posts
On September 10 2007 00:02 RowdierBob wrote: As much as I have a strong discontent for the inferior version of Rubgy, I will cheer for the Wallabies. If New Zealand don't win they are fucking pathetic and worthless. They're such a better team than anyone else in world Rugby that only their inate ability to constantly choke when it matters could stop them. Union is so fucking boring compared to league though. Such a soft game. Go Manly. League is for big stupid guys. Union is for smart and fit guys. Union is wayyyyyyy more interesting, it's not only muscle | ||
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sc2Owns
Germany13 Posts
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IntoTheWow
is awesome32274 Posts
On September 08 2007 18:24 Boblion wrote: Well i hate Argentina ... | ||
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bObaZ
Portugal862 Posts
Go "Lobos" ! They're by far the weakest in their group but yesterday they played with their hearts.. I never saw any1 singing the portuguese national anthem with such passion! It was like they're going to the war expecting to die ... | ||
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RowdierBob
Australia13007 Posts
On September 10 2007 01:17 ~chut~ wrote: League is for stronger, fitter guys. Union is for fat and soft guys. Union is wayyyyyyy more boring, it's gay FYP sir! | ||
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FirstProbe
1206 Posts
On September 10 2007 01:17 ~chut~ wrote: League is for big stupid guys. Union is for smart and fit guys. Union is wayyyyyyy more interesting, it's not only muscle Tell that to Jonah... | ||
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LG)cheloman
Argentina159 Posts
If we can get a good result against Ireland, we would evite to all black in 4th. I was in Paris that day, so I can´t shout as strong as I wanted ! ^^ | ||
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~chut~
France1317 Posts
Well, Jonah wasn't a great defender, he always had trouble without the ball. He wasn't the best union player imo, even if his physical abilities would do a great part of the job. Actual NZ wingers are better imo. RowdierBob: i lived in Australia for a few months, tried to get interested in league... really, it didn't look that great. Very few players have some real style though, clever ones but i always wondered if it wasn't for the money, they'd be playing union | ||
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PePe QuiCoSE
Argentina1204 Posts
On September 11 2007 05:27 bObaZ wrote: Really? Because in Argentina Rugby is still amateur (of course, now almost all of the players of the national team play professionally abroad).Portugal is the only Amateur team to ever enter a World Cup! Go "Lobos" ! | ||
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DarkYoDA
United States1347 Posts
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IntoTheWow
is awesome32274 Posts
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PePe QuiCoSE
Argentina1204 Posts
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DarkYoDA
United States1347 Posts
[edit] that was so close... I think Japs confirm out. But then again Fuji may be out too.. | ||
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Daigomi
South Africa4316 Posts
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LG)cheloman
Argentina159 Posts
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haduken
Australia8267 Posts
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N.sL)_CirCle
New Zealand478 Posts
new zealand > all - cept maybe south africa but they are usually only any good at home. | ||
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DarkYoDA
United States1347 Posts
On September 13 2007 14:26 N.sL)_CirCle wrote: no, close though. new zealand > all - cept maybe south africa but they are usually only any good at home. Tonga looks very strong also. US was rather physical already (but bad handling) but the Tongan defense looks unbreakable, very much like the other very strong nations. | ||
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RowdierBob
Australia13007 Posts
This competition is basically Australia, New Zealand, South Africa. France and England could maybe win, but really unlikely. Then you have teams like Ireland, Wales, Scotland, Argetina who make up the numbers in quarter finals. The other teams are completely useless. | ||
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RowdierBob
Australia13007 Posts
So before all the Irish or Argie people get ancy and point me towards their high rankings, face facts - you're going to get knocked out in the Quarters (that's if you even make it out of that group of death ) | ||
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trollbone
France1905 Posts
french got potential, maybe, maybe not, hope it gonna be like footbal, we sucked in the groups then we started to make a comeback | ||
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Kassios
France1424 Posts
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FirstProbe
1206 Posts
On September 13 2007 18:46 Kassios wrote: French team have too much pressure on their shoulders, everyone expect them to win the cup, that's why they sux If by everyone, you mean no-one, then yes! | ||
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Kassios
France1424 Posts
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PePe QuiCoSE
Argentina1204 Posts
and yes, for what i have seen the media in France is making a huge deal about the world cup, and the defeat in first game. | ||
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fbs
United Kingdom2476 Posts
On September 13 2007 15:31 RowdierBob wrote: Tonga are atrocious. This competition is basically Australia, New Zealand, South Africa. France and England could maybe win, but really unlikely. Then you have teams like Ireland, Wales, Scotland, Argetina who make up the numbers in quarter finals. The other teams are completely useless. And yet it is still so much more competitive than the Rugby League 'World Cup' | ||
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decafchicken
United States20020 Posts
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RowdierBob
Australia13007 Posts
On September 14 2007 02:21 fbs wrote: And yet it is still so much more competitive than the Rugby League 'World Cup' Yeah that's true, but League's strength is in the tribal nature of its club competition. Rugby can't get anywhere close in terms of popularity at a club level that League does (in Australia at least, I'm guessing it's different in the Old Dart). It's funny that the Rugby teams in Australia are always trying to poach the best league players. | ||
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~chut~
France1317 Posts
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Daigomi
South Africa4316 Posts
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~chut~
France1317 Posts
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DarkYoDA
United States1347 Posts
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zurg
1923 Posts
what a ugly game poor england and poor jason robinsonㅠ_ㅠ | ||
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DarkYoDA
United States1347 Posts
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Daigomi
South Africa4316 Posts
As mentioned earlier, Europe always takes a beating during the world cup, England just had the one year where Wilkinson played incredibly well, and their defense could keep up. At the moment I'm just worried about Argentina (that is, excluding NZ and AUS), they performed well against France. And no, I never believed England could take the Cup. They toured SA just before the world cup and lost their two tests 58 - 10, and 55 - 22. After this victory SA has a fairly clear road to the final, facing Tonga, then the US. If SA manages to beat both teams they will face the runners up of group B, which should be Wales (Australia should take that group), and after that they will face either the runners up of Group C (Scotland, NZ will lead the group), or the winning team of group D (France, Argentina, Ireland). So SA effectively avoids AUS and NZ until the finals. | ||
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IntoTheWow
is awesome32274 Posts
But it's still cool, I mean Rugby in Argentina is pretty much amateur, except for players who play on other countries... Players get paid close to nothing for playing in the national team, but you still see them play like there is no tomorrow. I hope they can just get further than last time. | ||
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RowdierBob
Australia13007 Posts
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fbs
United Kingdom2476 Posts
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Daigomi
South Africa4316 Posts
Other than that, it was a fairly good game. Discipline was bad, but what can you expect from a game with a weak referee. Wales played decently well, they had a few strong moments, but also a few moments where they just looked like they had no game plan. I missed the first half, so I didn't see Australia score (except for that one try that didn't really say anything), but they played fairly undisciplined in the second half. It's disappointing that there have been so few equally matched games so far. I guess this is just preparation for the quarter finals. | ||
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DarkYoDA
United States1347 Posts
Australia was very close to Wales which I didnt' really expect I thought they would run out on them badly but it's still close. Let's see if they can all live up to expectations. | ||
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Unforgiven_ve
Venezuela1232 Posts
poor portugal ;D | ||
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warding
Portugal2394 Posts
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fbs
United Kingdom2476 Posts
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RowdierBob
Australia13007 Posts
Australia did it easy vs Wales. 25-3 up at half-time sealed it, and we just cruised through the second half trying to avoid injuries. This tournament is always so boring till the quarter finals where the semi-interesting games begin. | ||
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DarkYoDA
United States1347 Posts
[edit] Nice to see France win big at home their second game... | ||
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sc2Owns
Germany13 Posts
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Daigomi
South Africa4316 Posts
That said, I watched the first 20 minutes of the Tonga/Samoa game, and it was quite bad. I heard it became much better, but both teams gave away about 5 penalties in the first 20 minutes. I'm impressed that Tonga won though. | ||
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~chut~
France1317 Posts
Then we'll have something like: France - NZ in Cardiff ( we're fucked lol) Australia - England (England missing the quarters because Tonga or Samoa beat them would be... i just can't believe it and i want Australia - England to happen) Argentina - Scotland or Italy (my bet is Italy but anyway, argentina should go through) SA - Wales or Fidji for the upset, anyway, easy for SA Then NZ - Australia SA - Argentina (Europe is fucked) And NZ > SA, most probably Blacks gets the stacked side of the draw though | ||
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~chut~
France1317 Posts
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PePe QuiCoSE
Argentina1204 Posts
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DarkYoDA
United States1347 Posts
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PePe QuiCoSE
Argentina1204 Posts
England - Tonga: SA needed it's A team to beat Tonga 30-25, serious threat to leave England out of the cup if they don't put up a better game Scotland - Italy: winner goes through, should be Scotland for their performance in the WC so far. Argentina - Ireland: both have a history in WC matches but this time, Ireland is the one against the odds. Wales - Fiji: guess wales should take this one down. | ||
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RowdierBob
Australia13007 Posts
I hope the Argies win. I think they would do much better in the Quarters. | ||
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~chut~
France1317 Posts
We had some good matches this week, more than expected. It's good for rugby that the group phase isn't only big names slaughtering amateurs! | ||
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oHInsane
France727 Posts
Concerning the little surprising country like Tonga , i must add that you have to know that most of the NZ team is made up with people who are born in those little pacific islans like TONGA or SAMOA. So thoses islands are trully a huge tank for the NZ team. I don't have the time to do that but I think you can esaily make a TOP 3 world team with all the players born in Tonga and/or Samoa. This leads me to the fact that i wouldn't like to see a 16team world cup in the future with only the big rosters. I mean it is the goal of the World Cup to promote the Rugby and to let teams from different levels face each other. It adds some drama, and sometimes some upsets which is good for the sport. And i don't even mention that it is important for "small" countries to take part of it. It is good for them, for us and for the rugby in general. I am also really scared for France, even if i will naturally root for them, I wuold just love to see theam beating NZ in an epic game. At least I would like a strong show up versus NZ. But i am not already convinced by my team, even after the match vs Ireland. In my book, they played one good game (vs IRELAND) and one bad game (vs ARGENTINA), so i am doubting and i will wait and see. | ||
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Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
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Victor
New Zealand1016 Posts
On September 24 2007 20:43 Plexa wrote: some idiot bet $5ish million australian on the ABs winning the WC ;; Some poor sods going to lose 5 mil, with that 5 mil I could buy my own progaming team... | ||
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~chut~
France1317 Posts
Blacks are still favourites for me, SA showed they had a very good A-team but their bench isn't that impressive. Australia is always dangerous, it's hard to tell, i didn't see them play so much yet but from the reports, they look ok. But i'm not sure they have their incredible defense that did so well in 99 and 2003, they'll need it to beat the blacks. | ||
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DarkYoDA
United States1347 Posts
England also GG. Beat Samoa relatively convincingly... | ||
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RowdierBob
Australia13007 Posts
On September 24 2007 19:13 oHInsane wrote: Well, i watch this world cup here and then and not with a very deep insight view. Anyway, I am inclined to think that NZ won't win this World Cup. It's not that is dislike them, they are the strongest team in many ways but they will fail in quarter or after like they did so many times before. Concerning the little surprising country like Tonga , i must add that you have to know that most of the NZ team is made up with people who are born in those little pacific islans like TONGA or SAMOA. So thoses islands are trully a huge tank for the NZ team. I don't have the time to do that but I think you can esaily make a TOP 3 world team with all the players born in Tonga and/or Samoa. This is so utterly retarded and not true. | ||
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DarkYoDA
United States1347 Posts
[edit] Japan is defending very very well. Last minute tackle to prevent a try at stroke of half time. Fantastic stuff! | ||
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DarkYoDA
United States1347 Posts
Canada 12-12 Japan. Last minute try and equalised. Think this was easily the most tense game for a neutral. | ||
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fbs
United Kingdom2476 Posts
7 out of the 30 NZ squad players are born in the Pacific Islands including Jerry Collins who has the biggest biceps in the world cup, 21" ! I think Samoa is traditionally the biggest provider of talent. | ||
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LG)cheloman
Argentina159 Posts
I guess that SA is already thinking in Argentina now. For what I saw, Ireland > Scotland or Italy, so 4er won´t be a problem for "los pumas". | ||
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Flaccid
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IntoTheWow
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Kassios
France1424 Posts
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oHInsane
France727 Posts
On September 25 2007 08:52 RowdierBob wrote: This is so utterly retarded and not true. First of all, you should learn some manner. If you disagree with me, i can understand it, maybe i was excessive when i said "most of them" but "some" of the NZ team is from FIDJI, TONGA or SAMOA. Just look at these names : Chris Masoe Joe Rokocoko Rodney So'oialo Isaia Toeava Jerry Collins Sione Lauaki Mils Muliaina Sitiveni Sivivatu All from those pacific islands. | ||
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~chut~
France1317 Posts
International rules being what they are, it's really easy to play for another country than yours, maybe that's a problem but France also has its "foreigners": De Villiers ( also Marsh and Liebenberg used to play for France). Maka from Tonga plays in Toulouse. He refused to play for Tonga for years because he wanted to play for France but he was never taken in the squad. All those players want to play for a team that is more recognized, with a better organization and simply with more money. That's a problem IRB will need to deal with if they really want to developp rugby though | ||
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~chut~
France1317 Posts
Argentina is really strong, i'm impressed. I'm really happy for them as they're too often forgotten from the top teams because they don't play any annual competition and i really like their players (Hernandez, Pichot and Corleto play in Paris and they're great, i enjoy seeing them play). They have a comfortable ro8 against Scotland who barely won against Italy, not the most interesting match here. SA - Fidji: nice to see Fidji qualifying (i should have watch them against Wales, that game was awesome from reports), it will be hard against SA though. Problem for SA is that they had trouble against Tonga without their top players, they can't take the risk now that it's an elimination match. They're still the second favourite in this WC but i have the feeling they're on a way down since their big game against England. England - Australia: last WC final, nice ! While Australia lost Larkham, England has Wilkinson back, tides are turning fast! But Australia is still a better team for me. It's closer than what i tought at first. France - New Zealand: everyone in France wanted this, but only in final of course Well, France is playing much better since their initial loss, but blacks... In Cardiff ! They'll need a miracle like in 99, playing like there's no tomorrow. But honestly, i don't see this happening. I hope it's gonna be a good match, not one-sided! Overall, this ro8 looks quite good | ||
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PePe QuiCoSE
Argentina1204 Posts
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fbs
United Kingdom2476 Posts
Australia should beat England badly, same with Argentina Scotland.... the Wales game was probably the best one so far | ||
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LG)cheloman
Argentina159 Posts
Argentina is playing great, but they need to improve a lot to take a slot in semis. The backs weren´t so strong against ireland like they were the other games. Only Hernandez keep the score in our favor thanks to his drops. Felipe Contempomi needs to improve, Fowards the same... This will be the most interesting game in this round, because they are almost equal. Australia will win easy against England. Im sure about this result. The same with All blacks against France. Im not totally sure, but I hope and wish a great game from Fidji, they put too much love in every game, so, SA needs to play their best rugby to get the semis. My bet: SA vs Pumas All Blacks vs Australia yes... I know... | ||
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LG)cheloman
Argentina159 Posts
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RowdierBob
Australia13007 Posts
Aus > England SA > Fiji (by a lot) NZ > France (by a lot) Wales lost me money vs Fiji. Not happy Jan! | ||
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DarkYoDA
United States1347 Posts
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white_box921
United Kingdom967 Posts
On October 02 2007 06:46 LG)cheloman wrote: Australia will win easy against England. Im sure about this result. The same with All blacks against France. wtf.... although I think the Aussie will win, please don't forget that England win rugby by kicking. As long as Wilko play, I think we have a chance. NZ is a bit too good from what I have seen, but I really like Chabal (he looks like jesus to me) and I wish france the best of luck. | ||
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~chut~
France1317 Posts
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LG)cheloman
Argentina159 Posts
France with moustache? :o | ||
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fbs
United Kingdom2476 Posts
England 12 Australia 10...... Wilkinson didn't even kick well | ||
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HaXxorIzed
Australia8434 Posts
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trollbone
France1905 Posts
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haduken
Australia8267 Posts
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DarkYoDA
United States1347 Posts
On October 07 2007 00:58 haduken wrote: how the fuck did aus lose? is aus out of the tourny? Yes they are out, can't say it is totally out of expectation though. England aren't impressive but they are still able to play a good basic game as can be seen when they played Tonga and Samoa, admittedly they look lacklustre as compared to Australia in the group stages. | ||
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MyTHicaL
France1070 Posts
huge game tonight NZ vs FR ... this will probably decide who makes it to the finals on that side of the bracket in all likely hood NZ will win but france is very capable of creating problems with Chabal (who upon the last game with the all blacks broke someones jaw - cant remember whose but he plays 2nd row rated best in the world in that position) Aus will rape england... south africa is most likely to beat fiji and then aus ... basically imo South Africa vs New Zealand/France in finals whoever wins the neo/french game will almost automatically go to the finals Z_z;: edit: NOOO FUCK U ENGLAND I WILL BE HAPPY IF ANY TEAM WINS AS LONG AS ITS NOT ENGLAND T_T. | ||
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DarkYoDA
United States1347 Posts
On October 07 2007 01:23 MyTHicaL wrote: darkyoda u obviously dont follow rugby at all to consider england a top contender even with wilkinson they probably have their worst team EVER since the last world cup No I don't think England is a top contender at all (not anywhere in my posts you find that). All I'm saying is that they played like crap and won, but why? They are fairly decent and on a lucky day, they would scrap through, like today... [edit]: Also, the only team that "looks" like a top contender is NZ and SA. Eventhough they can screw it up still. | ||
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trollbone
France1905 Posts
WCG is at 3:00 am tlnet ime i eat at 3:00 am *sight* | ||
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DarkYoDA
United States1347 Posts
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Kassios
France1424 Posts
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Kassios
France1424 Posts
20-18 good game :p | ||
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oHInsane
France727 Posts
I am so happy after hearing all those Nz > Fra EZ !!!! It is such a pleasure, i am as excited as on Fra vs Bra football match. Really, really intense ! I am gonna get drunk hard tonight !! I knew it !! | ||
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DarkYoDA
United States1347 Posts
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trollbone
France1905 Posts
YEAHHHHHH YEAHHHHHH | ||
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axel
France385 Posts
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fbs
United Kingdom2476 Posts
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JohnnyCash
France244 Posts
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LG)cheloman
Argentina159 Posts
North is giving fight right now! | ||
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RowdierBob
Australia13007 Posts
They're such massive chokers. I'm backing the Argies all the way now. | ||
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IntoTheWow
is awesome32274 Posts
Can't believe it. NZ had like 70% ball possession, but the french just kept tackling them over and over. Very fun game. Congrats to France. Hope Argentina performs well tomorrow. | ||
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Kassios
France1424 Posts
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RowdierBob
Australia13007 Posts
Should be a crazy final. | ||
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fbs
United Kingdom2476 Posts
With 20 mins to go they looked like they were going to score a try with every attack. | ||
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Daigomi
South Africa4316 Posts
Worst international game I've seen in a very long time. | ||
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IntoTheWow
is awesome32274 Posts
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TaG]SiG
United Kingdom53 Posts
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sc2Owns
Germany13 Posts
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PePe QuiCoSE
Argentina1204 Posts
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Daigomi
South Africa4316 Posts
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Smurg
Australia3818 Posts
Looking like it should be a good final. :o | ||
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LG)cheloman
Argentina159 Posts
Argentina made a lot of penalties without any sense... and they worked as they had to do. You can´t kick to line out against scotland, because they have a great line... Argentina worked with the fowards, they did the right... yes, is not so pretty, but effective. Don´t give the semis as lost before play. Argentina will be hard to win. | ||
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fbs
United Kingdom2476 Posts
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PePe QuiCoSE
Argentina1204 Posts
BTW, i haven't watched the all the matches and only SA games briefings. edit: btw, it would be hilarious to re-read this thread and quote all the guys that simply stated that AUS and NZ were the only countries that had rugby and the rest were just crap :D | ||
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Daigomi
South Africa4316 Posts
And as to NZ and Aus, I still believe they are far better teams than their opponents, when they are playing properly. Australia played an extremely lackluster game, I guess they just weren't used to being pressed, while NZ just didn't follow their game plan. All credits to France for winning, and even England for taking the win. Both teams defended their leads very well. That said, if I had to choose the team I would least want SA to face in the finals it would be France. They showed that they can feed of the home advantage like few teams can ('98 as well), and they looked very solid against NZ. England would be the team I felt safest against in the finals, if only because they lost their last 4 (3?) consecutive games against SA in quite resounding fashion. I would also face Scotland in the semis much rather than Argentina. I always feel that Argentina can upset any team in the competition, if they have a good day. Scotland on the other hand plays more consistent rugby, but I think they pose less of a threat. I'm think SA will make it to the finals, but these quarter-finals showed us that anything can happen. | ||
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RowdierBob
Australia13007 Posts
On October 09 2007 03:32 PePe QuiCoSE wrote: of course, I'm just off the media bandwagon of "how great the pumas are" and did a reality check. They are, again, the underdogs and defeating SA would be huge, and a bold prediction. BTW, i haven't watched the all the matches and only SA games briefings. edit: btw, it would be hilarious to re-read this thread and quote all the guys that simply stated that AUS and NZ were the only countries that had rugby and the rest were just crap :D In all honesty Australia were probably the 4th best team heading into this WC. Yes we were a chance of winning it, but pretty unlikely. NZ SA France Australia Argentina England I'd say that was a pretty accurate reflection of where the teams were at coming into this WC. I put France at #3 because they had home field advantage. If it were in the Southern Hemisphere you could probably bump Aus to #3. So while it is a shock Aus lost in the Quarters, most people were expecting us to lose to the Blacks in the Semis anyway. I think the poor Argies are running out of puff. They've performed soso well up to this point, but I think their tiring schedule is starting to take its toll. I hope France make the final as it will make for a really intense atmosphere. | ||
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white_box921
United Kingdom967 Posts
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Fishball
Canada4788 Posts
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DarkYoDA
United States1347 Posts
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Fishball
Canada4788 Posts
Im searching for streams with TVants | ||
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Mascherano
Argentina1726 Posts
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Fishball
Canada4788 Posts
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PePe QuiCoSE
Argentina1204 Posts
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Fishball
Canada4788 Posts
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Fishball
Canada4788 Posts
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PePe QuiCoSE
Argentina1204 Posts
çedit: oh wait, now's working :D | ||
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Fishball
Canada4788 Posts
ha, just as i said that, england got a field goal again, 14 : 9 slim chances left for france | ||
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Fishball
Canada4788 Posts
france showed a good game though they had the lead early but let it slide | ||
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PePe QuiCoSE
Argentina1204 Posts
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PoP
France15446 Posts
Nice game though. | ||
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Kassios
France1424 Posts
gl to england even though I expect SA to win the whole thing | ||
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Daigomi
South Africa4316 Posts
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fbs
United Kingdom2476 Posts
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RowdierBob
Australia13007 Posts
They've become really strong at just grinding foward and anything from 50m and within is almost and auto 3 points. South Africa should be too strong, but England are playing with a lot of heart at the moment. Who knows. Maybe even the Argies will win? Unlikely though, I think they're 0-11 vs the Boks. | ||
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Daigomi
South Africa4316 Posts
I'm more worried about the game against the pumas, they are a very unpredictable side. That said, if SA win that game then my greatest worry would be losing to the poms in the finals. I could stand losing against France, but allowing a weak (no offense, but they're really not that strong) will allow the poms to be incredibly pompous for the next four years. Grrr! | ||
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Lhyviathan
Australia975 Posts
Being crap for 4 years, and then nicking the trophy is not okay! | ||
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RowdierBob
Australia13007 Posts
On October 14 2007 16:55 Daigomi wrote: I don't know Bob, Wilkinson hasn't been kicking well at all. He only got 3/5 over against the French, and he missed 3-4 drop goals, not getting one over. He also didn't kick that well against the aussies. He seems to be much less of a threat everyone thought he would be. I'm more worried about the game against the pumas, they are a very unpredictable side. That said, if SA win that game then my greatest worry would be losing to the poms in the finals. I could stand losing against France, but allowing a weak (no offense, but they're really not that strong) will allow the poms to be incredibly pompous for the next four years. Grrr! His kicking has been off a bit, but he's still one of if not the best goal kickers in world rugby. Apart from that, he's one of those guys that lifts everyone around him. They seem to play much much better with Jonny guiding them around and his strategical kicking game is top notch. The English team are no where near as flashy as they were four years ago, but they still have tough fowards and good backline defense. I wouldn't take the game they lost to SA earlier as much of an indicator. As for the Argies, they've had a great run, but I think the Boks will be too tough. It will be close for about 60 mins, but I think SA's superior fitness, flair and skills will win them the day. The final's gonna be ass horrible boring with England in it though. France would have been far more entertaining. | ||
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KarlSberg~
731 Posts
On October 14 2007 17:35 Lhyviathan wrote: Being crap for 4 years, and then nicking the trophy is not okay! You could say that about England too. | ||
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RowdierBob
Australia13007 Posts
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KarlSberg~
731 Posts
On October 14 2007 22:01 RowdierBob wrote: Poms = England yo Oh didn't know that... what does it stand for? Edit: ok googled it, I still have to work on my aussie slang =p | ||
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Daigomi
South Africa4316 Posts
Ahh, Wikipedia confirms this: "The term pommy or pommie is commonly used by speakers of Australian English, New Zealand English, South African English and Afrikaans." Rugby starts in 75 minutes! | ||
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MyTHicaL
France1070 Posts
England unfortunately waited untill the last 10mins to score 6 cheap points, forcing a penalty is not hard to do. Drop kicks should = 2 points imo... If South Africa go through england will hopefully be raped... I pray... You should pray 2. | ||
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DarkYoDA
United States1347 Posts
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IntoTheWow
is awesome32274 Posts
Specially good counter-attackers like SA. | ||
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Ranger)
Chile105 Posts
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DarkYoDA
United States1347 Posts
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Kassios
France1424 Posts
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fbs
United Kingdom2476 Posts
On October 15 2007 03:05 MyTHicaL wrote: for all of those who dont understand this game: England unfortunately waited untill the last 10mins to score 6 cheap points, forcing a penalty is not hard to do. Drop kicks should = 2 points imo... If South Africa go through england will hopefully be raped... I pray... You should pray 2. The game you are looking for is Rugby League England France game was better because it was competitive for more than 40 minutes, this one has been over for a long time | ||
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Fishball
Canada4788 Posts
They should beat UK as well. Hope we have a nice finals | ||
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Daigomi
South Africa4316 Posts
On October 15 2007 05:02 DarkYoDA wrote: Wow that try by Arg was a hard call.. it seemed he dropped the ball with a centimeter to go?.. but nice break though Everyone in SA was calling that one a knock. I think it was a fairly 50/50 call, looked liked a knock but I wouldn't bet on it. Game wasn't that good, tons of mistakes by both teams, and SA just got killed in the scrums. South Africa also kicked badly, we really should have targeted the touch, and tried to win the line-out balls. That said, Habana was amazing though- you've just got to love him! I really hope we take Eng in the finals... | ||
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white_box921
United Kingdom967 Posts
I am waiting for this final, and I have to say Eng is definately the underdog. | ||
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~chut~
France1317 Posts
Well he's fine with it for the moment, but that's not my favourite type of play. I feel a bit sorry for Argentina, they lost to 2 interceptions and 2 well played turn over. But SA wes clearly the better team, Argies were getting tired. I still hope Hernandez gets the player of the year award Funny final, after the 36-0 England had to suffer in group... SA will probably get their first legit WC win | ||
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Highways
Australia6103 Posts
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Lhyviathan
Australia975 Posts
SOUTH AFRICA FIGHTING!!! | ||
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MyTHicaL
France1070 Posts
Highways - finally someone who agrees with me xD. After that game I watched the highlights of St. Helens vs Leeds ... and I can personally say that that game was a LOT more intresting than the FR/Eng game... South Africa should by all means walk over england ... England will be dominated in every domain except drop goals (even field position SA have the "golden boy" - guy with blond semi long hair who kicks brilliantly I forget his name :S) Matfield and habanah and possibly the best tight end prop to ever play :D. I hope it will be an open game... If england manages to depict the speed of the game it will suck ... if the south african backs open stuff up it will be brilliant... 3rd place match? Imo france will throw everything in this match... they just lost their place in the finals ffs! Last time around they lost to Argentina - a game they'll never forget... hopefully chabal wont be double teamed like in the england game and we can see some nice hits Chabal for president~~ | ||
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fbs
United Kingdom2476 Posts
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RowdierBob
Australia13007 Posts
Rugby League is a far superior game, but this is still interesting because it's a World Cup afterall and Union is a more international game than League. That and nobody is close to touching us in League so it's kinda boring.  | ||
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DarkYoDA
United States1347 Posts
On October 16 2007 04:11 MyTHicaL wrote: hopefully chabal wont be double teamed like in the england game and we can see some nice hits Chabal for president~~ When there is nothing much one person can do about his mass, they probably will go in with numbers. That man is huge! | ||
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DarkYoDA
United States1347 Posts
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Fishball
Canada4788 Posts
betting on argentina | ||
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PePe QuiCoSE
Argentina1204 Posts
 Btw, WC is in France, so it should be for them the 3rd place. Would be too much to not even get in the podium. | ||
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MyTHicaL
France1070 Posts
Would be too much to not even get in the podium. But not unheard of... England almost got knocked out in the group stages (would be the first defending champions EVER to have that happen to them)... Id bet all the money I have on France... Sorry but beating Scotland ( i support scotland btw), a team that plays extremely defensively and just uses the most accurate penalty taker in the world (Patterson) to knock 3 points over whenever they force a penalty by something like 19-14 is horrible... Sorry France will be angry, this is Ibanez' (hooker/captain plays for the Wasps) last world cup so ... imo 30+points to ~15 | ||
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PePe QuiCoSE
Argentina1204 Posts
damn, again the stream is not working. Anyone got one working? | ||
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Fishball
Canada4788 Posts
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DarkYoDA
United States1347 Posts
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PePe QuiCoSE
Argentina1204 Posts
im watching http://www.shipstononline.org/rwctracker.html so, france will be with 14 first 10 min of second half? edit: oh, so does fernández lobbe... 14 vs 14 then | ||
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DarkYoDA
United States1347 Posts
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LG)cheloman
Argentina159 Posts
Why we didn´t play in that way against SA? :S Im really proud of Pumas. Leguizamon´s tacle to Chabal the best moment of the game, ,by far xDDDD | ||
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Daigomi
South Africa4316 Posts
Well played to the Pumas though, they really played with a lot of heart. And most people with me were supporting France, but you just can't support a team that plays dirty, so in the end they were all rooting for Argentina. Well done Pumas! | ||
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IntoTheWow
is awesome32274 Posts
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Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
France > NZ ... Argentina > NZ? | ||
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IntoTheWow
is awesome32274 Posts
Z>P T>P? | ||
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RowdierBob
Australia13007 Posts
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IntoTheWow
is awesome32274 Posts
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Daigomi
South Africa4316 Posts
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RowdierBob
Australia13007 Posts
Should've added some  ;\)And based off this tourny I think the Argies are more than capable of playing in the Tri-nations. | ||
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Kassios
France1424 Posts
gj argi you deserve the 3rd spot | ||
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LG)cheloman
Argentina159 Posts
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IntoTheWow
is awesome32274 Posts
On October 20 2007 16:45 RowdierBob wrote: I was joking yo Agu. Should've added some ;\)And based off this tourny I think the Argies are more than capable of playing in the Tri-nations. I'm joking too, i wanted you to agree with him since you don't like him much | ||
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MyTHicaL
France1070 Posts
omg its like every team i support loses... If south africa lose ... | ||
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Fishball
Canada4788 Posts
HUGE BICEPS FTW | ||
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Kassios
France1424 Posts
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LG)cheloman
Argentina159 Posts
On October 21 2007 02:33 MyTHicaL wrote: argentina wont be added in the 6nations... omg its like every team i support loses... Why won´t be added, you know something else?. About the teams that you´ve soported... Always can start to read - see something more of rugby ^^ | ||
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fbs
United Kingdom2476 Posts
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Fishball
Canada4788 Posts
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Fishball
Canada4788 Posts
that was SO close | ||
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Fishball
Canada4788 Posts
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MyTHicaL
France1070 Posts
15-6 RAPED ENGLAND RAPED LG)chaleomn: ive played/seen more rugby than u have trust me. | ||
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Kassios
France1424 Posts
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MyTHicaL
France1070 Posts
Also why the hell didnt they sub off Percy? lol he was limping round the entire pitch... | ||
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fbs
United Kingdom2476 Posts
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PePe QuiCoSE
Argentina1204 Posts
Congratulations SA! I'd rather had them champs than England | ||
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Daigomi
South Africa4316 Posts
As to the try that they didn't get, I'm not really sure what the England captain was on about "unlucky referee decisions". The foot was clearly out of bounds before the try was scored. It might be unlucky that his foot went out, but it definitely wasn't an unlucky decision. This game was also fantastically refereed, best refereeing so far. He kept the game under control at all times. I also really appreciate that there were no punches thrown during the game, shows great control by the England team. Great game through and through, definitely my favourite game of the RWC even without it being the finals! As to the Pumas playing in the Tri Nations, they were actually accepted to play in the Tri Nations for 2009, but there were some legal issues, including the fact that the tournament's name the "Tri" nations had been fixed until 2011, so last I heard the Argies might join in 2011. I really doubt they'd join the Six Nations though, the six nations is an exclusively european/northern hemisphere tournament, while the Tri Nations is a southern hermisphere tournament. Oh, and I thought the closing ceremony was really good. Such a fabulous tournament hosted by France. Really nice closing ceremony. | ||
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IntoTheWow
is awesome32274 Posts
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Lhyviathan
Australia975 Posts
Well, they played the best throughout the tourney, so you can't begrudge them that. | ||
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LG)cheloman
Argentina159 Posts
On October 21 2007 05:44 MyTHicaL wrote: LG)chaleomn: ive played/seen more rugby than u have trust me. Miticoll, Ive played rugby 23 years, have you played more than me? | ||
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~chut~
France1317 Posts
The try was good for me, the foot wasn't touching the line imo. It was really close, but the foot went up just before the line. Then the ref forgot a clear penalty when Habana came in front of the ball preventing the tackle. Then he gave a penalty to SA for the same foul that wasn"t really clear that time. But overall, the best team of the tournament won, that's pretty obvious. White did an amazing job, his team is very complete, Montgomery kicks well (i remember times when he had much more trouble :p), best team in line outs, one of the best scrums (England stands there), very good back division... Du Preez is clearly the best player of the WC (i'd love to say Hernandez is, but i'm biased, he plays in Paris and he's my favourite player), his play is fantastic and makes it up for James, a very standard player with nothing special, he looks pretty weak in this team! Habana received best player of the year award... well i guess it was expected, but i'm sorry, Hernandez is much better than him. Habana runs faster than anyone else, but well... his defensive skills are reduced to one strategy: do or die interception. Hernandez has everything, Habana doesn't. | ||
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