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Luhh
Profile Joined October 2003
Sweden2974 Posts
May 15 2008 16:31 GMT
#721
.. and of course to make the statistics completely meaningless I can add that Ronaldo gets more shots on goals cause he has a more powerful shot, and thus shoots from further out with less chance of scoring.

But Messi might have been player of the year if he wasn't injured this season. He's just plain awesome.
I wouldn´t call him stupid, but let´s just say he´s unlucky when thinking...
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28695 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-15 16:36:59
May 15 2008 16:35 GMT
#722
... theyre entirely different players and ronaldo shoots far more from a distance than messi. thus it is logical that messi has a lower amount of shots but higher accuracy.

the only thing you learn by those statistics is well, exactly that; ronaldo shoots more from a distance than messi.

also, arshavin (player for zenith) is really, really good. he's also fairly young, I'd expect him to end up in a PL team next season or in 2 seasons, and then for a team as good or better than tottenham. i actually remember he impressed me when zenit played vs rosenborg several seasons ago, from what ive seen he has evolved significantly and I think he could content for a first team spot on pretty much every team in the world.

edit:dangit luhh you beat me cuz I answered another post in addition haha
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Fzero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1503 Posts
May 15 2008 16:51 GMT
#723
I'm not trying to provide that Ronaldo isn't an excellent goal scorer or player, hell I'm a huge fan. Just another forum was having a debate over their goal scoring prowess, and I dug up a little bit. It's interesting to look at the huge number of shots Ronaldo takes. Are you trying to argue that Ronaldo takes 150 "long distance" shots per season? That's almost 5 per game. Ridiculous if that is the case. I don't watch every Man U game, so I can't comment on the accuracy of that.
Never give up on something that you can't go a day without thinking about.
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
May 15 2008 16:56 GMT
#724
I don't know what the stats mean exactly but Ronaldo is very clinical and rarely misses a great opportunity, and 5 long shots per game sounds about right.
ilj.psa
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Peru3081 Posts
May 15 2008 20:31 GMT
#725
Well Messi rarely shoots long distance , he is good at long distance shots, but he prefers to dribble pass defenders, while passing the ball and receiving it, then he shoots.
That way his chances of scoring are higher, but his shots at goal decreases.
He surprisingly has a very powerful shot also considering his shorter than Ronaldo but he only shoots far away when he sees that it will definately will be a goal.
Also Messi is more of a team player, he sets his teammates up more times than actually shooting
mAKiTO
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Colombia4171 Posts
May 16 2008 08:35 GMT
#726
cant really compare them. But this season Ronaldo has been better, maybe because he didnt have mayor injuries like messi, but that doesnt really matter. Plus ronaldo is a more fancy player than messi, he does tricks while messi just moves his hips and breaks defenders. Im argetinian bias, so I like messi more, also because he acts way more mature than Ronaldo, and he doesnt dive, or fake injuries. (while i got to admit, last season messi did the hand of god like a cheater)
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zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
May 16 2008 09:10 GMT
#727
Yea I don't like how Ronaldo acts like it's a crime for someone to pull his shirt and everytime he doesn't get a call he raises his arms and complains. Otherwise he's pretty much perfect except for his decision making at times.
ilj.psa
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Peru3081 Posts
May 16 2008 21:25 GMT
#728
Actually if you notice when he cant move anywhere and start doing his bullshit stepovers in a single place to piss off the other team, he always dives or looks for a foul, things like that makes me lose respect for him

heres a vid

zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
May 17 2008 05:24 GMT
#729
well to be fair he was running down the clock and they were up 2-1 in a very crucial game.
kroko
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
Finland2136 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-17 09:32:18
May 17 2008 09:29 GMT
#730
On May 17 2008 14:24 zulu_nation8 wrote:
well to be fair he was running down the clock and they were up 2-1 in a very crucial game.

Yup, smart play. Wasted important seconds and got even freekick(?).
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PhilGood2DaY
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany7424 Posts
May 17 2008 11:33 GMT
#731
his tricks or very skillfull and good looking..
everyone who ever played soccer on his own knows how much confidence and skill u need to do these kind of stuff in games

not in particular this vid but his moves in general..
even though he is a little pussy sometimes ( got better.. )
i still am amazed by his play
hatred outlives the hateful
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28695 Posts
May 17 2008 13:50 GMT
#732
yeah i thought that video was just impressive..
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IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32277 Posts
May 18 2008 02:22 GMT
#733
Lol man, that dive.
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ilj.psa
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Peru3081 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-18 03:51:36
May 18 2008 03:40 GMT
#734
of course its impressive but thats not the point

btw anyone know the music? ;o
SoMuchBetter
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia10606 Posts
May 18 2008 08:35 GMT
#735
On May 18 2008 12:40 ilj.psa wrote:
of course its impressive but thats not the point

btw anyone know the music? ;o

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PhilGood2DaY
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany7424 Posts
May 18 2008 09:35 GMT
#736
On May 18 2008 11:22 IntoTheWow wrote:
Lol man, that dive.


THAT was no dive!?
Are you blind ?
hatred outlives the hateful
Klogon
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
MURICA15980 Posts
May 18 2008 09:55 GMT
#737
Haha yeah he just got plain hacked down.
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
May 24 2008 17:25 GMT
#738
Grant got sacked.

Personally I liked him and thought what he had done with Chelsea was amazing after he took over amidst all the turmoil. He's just really really ugly and has zero charisma which I actually think is the primary reason he got axed. Otherwise not a lot of managers could've done what he did with the club under all the pressure and come within one kick of the champions league title. Under mourinho Chelsea had never gone to a final, and if they hadn't dropped as many points in the first half of the season they probably would've won the league.
TonyL2
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
England1953 Posts
May 24 2008 17:58 GMT
#739
Yea, I agree that Grant did a great job. But I'd rather see someone more flamboyant/enthusiastic. He always felt like he was a "supply teacher" until the real manager comes.
Asta
Profile Joined October 2002
Germany3491 Posts
May 24 2008 20:11 GMT
#740
Yeah he was looking very out of place during the ceremony after the CL final. Maybe he knew already...
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