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victorysilver1412
Profile Joined August 2019
United States1 Post
August 02 2019 10:30 GMT
#121
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16673 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-06 18:00:14
August 06 2019 14:48 GMT
#122
IGN posted the first 14 minutes of Borderlands 3.
+ Show Spoiler +


Here is Amara.


According to people who follow Take2 conference calls Borderlands went from 43 million units sold to 48 million units sold in the past 3 months.

I'd say the promotion of Borderlands 3 has been a success. Good idea by 2K//Gearbox keeping Pitchford away from the last few Borderlands3 promotional events.
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Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6879 Posts
August 07 2019 07:56 GMT
#123
On August 06 2019 23:48 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
IGN posted the first 14 minutes of Borderlands 3.
+ Show Spoiler +
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7M79NdSmhAg


Here is Amara.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xASquu1qp0

According to people who follow Take2 conference calls Borderlands went from 43 million units sold to 48 million units sold in the past 3 months.

I'd say the promotion of Borderlands 3 has been a success. Good idea by 2K//Gearbox keeping Pitchford away from the last few Borderlands3 promotional events.


Which Borderlands is that?

I mean BL 1 , BL 2 and Prequel were sold for like 5 $ as a package. Now wonder it sold 5 million copies
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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20285 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-07 10:40:19
August 07 2019 10:26 GMT
#124


This is absolute insanity! Unfortunately i can believe every word of it given take2's strongly negative history over the last handful of years which included other blatant violations of laws. Anyone interested in buying BL3 should seriously look into this incident and their prior history. It's not a good time to be a consumer or content producer
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Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6879 Posts
August 07 2019 11:41 GMT
#125
On August 07 2019 19:26 Cyro wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kmC0NZShfM&t=137s

This is absolute insanity! Unfortunately i can believe every word of it given take2's strongly negative history over the last handful of years which included other blatant violations of laws. Anyone interested in buying BL3 should seriously look into this incident and their prior history. It's not a good time to be a consumer or content producer


Skipped through it. This is a clip about Anthem??!!

Could you explain what riled you up? I don't get the connection
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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20285 Posts
August 07 2019 12:05 GMT
#126
On August 07 2019 20:41 Harris1st wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2019 19:26 Cyro wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kmC0NZShfM&t=137s

This is absolute insanity! Unfortunately i can believe every word of it given take2's strongly negative history over the last handful of years which included other blatant violations of laws. Anyone interested in buying BL3 should seriously look into this incident and their prior history. It's not a good time to be a consumer or content producer


Skipped through it. This is a clip about Anthem??!!

Could you explain what riled you up? I don't get the connection


It's a video talking entirely about Take2. They don't use Borderlands footage because part of the drama is about Take2 illegally abusing DMCA takedowns.
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9560 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-07 15:44:05
August 07 2019 15:41 GMT
#127
On August 07 2019 20:41 Harris1st wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2019 19:26 Cyro wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kmC0NZShfM&t=137s

This is absolute insanity! Unfortunately i can believe every word of it given take2's strongly negative history over the last handful of years which included other blatant violations of laws. Anyone interested in buying BL3 should seriously look into this incident and their prior history. It's not a good time to be a consumer or content producer


Skipped through it. This is a clip about Anthem??!!

Could you explain what riled you up? I don't get the connection


Borderlands 3 twitter did an oopsie and released some spoiler on their own official twitter, people/fans started to cover and discuss it, Take2 contacted some local thugs/private "investigators" to intimidate this 1 particular YTber IRL sending them to his literally fucking physical home address, to blackmail him into shutting up about the leak.

Then procceeded to DMCA his YT channel, Twitter, Discord and other social media he uses.
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16673 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-07 17:05:37
August 07 2019 16:36 GMT
#128
Do you know about the regulations governing P.I. licensing in the state where this occurred? I'd say these guys have to be more wary than an average citizen of engaging in any "thug" behaviour lest they lose their P.I. license.

What Take2 did was wrong. It looks really bad on them and possibly on Gearbox as well. Referring to the two people who visited Supmatto as "thugs" to add more drama to the story is off-base though. "Thug" is a nice vague word with lots of negative connotation. Notice no one is referring to the two people that visited SupMatto as convicted violent criminal felons? "Thug" is nice and vague.... and really nice clickbait for youtubers who get paid based on view count.

Whether or not Gearbox is directly involved in this one or not .. it is another P.R. FUBAR for Gearbox. They've stopped Pitchford from attending events. Now we have this bad fuck up with SupMatto. The promotion of Borderlands 3 has had more twists and turns than a Borderlands game plot. LOL.

IGN gets another cool exclusive insight into Borderlands 3.


On August 07 2019 16:56 Harris1st wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2019 23:48 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
IGN posted the first 14 minutes of Borderlands 3.
+ Show Spoiler +
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7M79NdSmhAg


Here is Amara.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xASquu1qp0

According to people who follow Take2 conference calls Borderlands went from 43 million units sold to 48 million units sold in the past 3 months.

I'd say the promotion of Borderlands 3 has been a success. Good idea by 2K//Gearbox keeping Pitchford away from the last few Borderlands3 promotional events.


Which Borderlands is that?

I mean BL 1 , BL 2 and Prequel were sold for like 5 $ as a package. Now wonder it sold 5 million copies

It was a big discount for sure. However, i think your details are a bit off.

I think The "Handsome Collection" was $6 USD. The "Handsome Collection" does not include Borderlands 1. Borderlands 1 : Remastered was ~ $15 USD during the sale period you mention.

They kept Borderlands1 separated from the Handsome Collection. They revamped Borderlands1 completely adding a mini-map, way better graphics, better multiplayer support and many QOL features for inventory management. They sold BL1 separately from the "Handsome Collection".

I'm really damn impressed with how much they improved Borderlands 1.
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16673 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-07 19:51:32
August 07 2019 19:47 GMT
#129
it appears Take2 and 2K Games have a very different story about their investigation of SupMatto.
https://ca.ign.com/articles/2019/08/07/take-two-addresses-investigation-into-borderlands-3-streamer-leaks
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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20285 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-08 00:42:25
August 07 2019 21:29 GMT
#130
I'm gonna trust the content creator over the megacorporation who have personally screwed me over by violating local privacy laws in games that they bought after i did.

In our discussions with 2K, we’ve learned that the Twitch streams SupMatto used as sources were set to private, not public, as SupMatto claims. We were told that it was an exploit in Twitch’s security that allowed SupMatto’s community to datamine their way into getting access to thumbnail previews on what were private test streams. This puts SupMatto's claims in his Borderlands 3 videos into question.


This part is factually incorrect and doesn't put anything into question, it's a baseless attack.

They either don't understand or are deliberately trying to confuse people about the difference between the public/private flag on a stream (which gives permission for people to watch the broadcast) and the talk about "public information" as in information that is available for anyone to see.

The thumbnails of streams are available for anybody to view at any time. They are not protected by the "private" flag on twitch therefore they are public information. The fault is on Twitch for allowing such a privacy flaw (anybody can freely pull information from your "private" stream) and on Take2 for using them to livestream confidential information despite the flaw being public knowledge for as long as i can remember.
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6879 Posts
August 08 2019 12:06 GMT
#131
Thanky for the summary guys. I would have missed this whole situation.

Hard to tell who did what wrong honestly. I can see the YT guy doing shady stuff. For a company this is way more difficult/ risky. On the other hand this could also be the other way around and the YT guy really is innocent
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16673 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-08 13:00:00
August 08 2019 12:51 GMT
#132
at the 3 minute mark in SupMatto's video he acknowledges he committed some bad behaviour.

SupMatto released accurate details of all 4 Vault Hunters in Borderlands 3 in October 2018 some 6 months before the game was even announced. It appears this sparked the beginning of what became a 10 month investigation. Later on, he "broke" the rumour that a new BL:TPS DLC was on the way. This was partially correct .. it turned out we got a BL2 DLC. He is continually publishing leaks and then speculating based off that.

IGN gets exclusive content pre-release content/details for Borderlands3 before anyone else. I would not be too surprised to see a bias on IGN's part in favour of Take2 and against an independent Youtuber with whom they compete for views.

What an ugly mess. Can we get Marcus Kincaid to explain why Take2 is 100% in the right on this one?
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16673 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-08 20:25:09
August 08 2019 20:24 GMT
#133
Its clear "TheQuartering" is reporting in a manner very favourable to SupMatto. With 0.5 million subscribers and his pro-independent youtuber slant it is no surprise that any new stuff coming from SupMatto's side is coming out of TheQuartering.

This just in from "TheQuartering"... SupMatto's channel received over 60 copyright strikes against his videos and therefore in 7 days SupMatto's channel is due to be terminated.


If Take2's primary concern was with Supmatto's October 2018 leak and not with the recent stuff with the Echo-Cast then SupMatto has put himself in a bad spot in his most recent video. He made it seem like the EchoCast//Twitch thumbnail "data-mining" was Take2's only/primary concern. If he mis-characterized his meeting with the P.I.'s .... expect Take2 to hit him hard.
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abuse
Profile Joined April 2011
Latvia1930 Posts
August 09 2019 06:38 GMT
#134
don't you just love this industry.
I don't believe you.
Artesimo
Profile Joined February 2015
Germany546 Posts
August 09 2019 11:24 GMT
#135
On August 09 2019 05:24 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Its clear "TheQuartering" is reporting in a manner very favourable to SupMatto. With 0.5 million subscribers and his pro-independent youtuber slant it is no surprise that any new stuff coming from SupMatto's side is coming out of TheQuartering.


He is also a prime example for a demagogue who like to market himself as the defender of the little guy, always quick with getting out the pitchforks and I don't think I ever saw a video of him that didn't feature some very misleading or manipulating way of presenting his arguments... If there is something with only the quartering as a source the best course of action is to completely ignore it.

Not really speaking on the matter and more a general PSA regarding the quartering. You can't really use anything the guy publishes unless you can verify it via some other means.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16673 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-09 12:56:29
August 09 2019 12:52 GMT
#136
Inside Gaming did some nice research into this issue.


On August 09 2019 15:38 abuse wrote:
don't you just love this industry.

there is some indication he was selling $5/month subscription fees for special access to a Discord channel that gives out secret Borderlands 3 marketing info. If this is true he 100% deserves what he is getting. Take2 claims they can prove this.

the UFC absolutely crushed Ariel Helwani for revealing their marketing plan ahead of time. It isn't just the video game industry man. When there is big money up for grabs this stuff happens. SupMatto played this all wrong. He should've cried his eyes out for hours in his video like Ariel Helwani did. Ariel got his life back. I'm not so sure about SupMatto.

Playing Borderlands and seeing this incident play out I wonder.. "is art imitating life ... or is life imitating art"
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
abuse
Profile Joined April 2011
Latvia1930 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-09 13:57:08
August 09 2019 13:56 GMT
#137
nah, if that were the case, then he'd deserve legal action, not copyright abuse and private investigators.
If that were actually true(the fact that he got the info illegally) then trust me they would've sued him already, but since they have nothing that would actually constitute as "evidence" they do shit like this.
I don't believe you.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16673 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-09 14:10:32
August 09 2019 14:02 GMT
#138
Check out the "Inside Gaming" video. It is a legal gray area. He pushed it towards the illegal territory. P.I.s can't do anything. SupMatto can call 911 at any time and the P.I.s must leave his home. Ariel Helwani got it way worse.

SupMatto deleted his twitter and several youtube videos. For a guy with "nothing to hide" he sure started hiding a lot of stuff. He offered a carefully worded half-apology in his "breaking the silence" video. Its obvious he is reading the apology section word for word. Its not some ad-lib youtuber rant.
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Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9560 Posts
August 09 2019 15:44 GMT
#139
So you don't like TheQuartering because he's biased in favor of a single person and not biased towards a multi-billion dollar company? I guess that fair...

So let's try


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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16673 Posts
August 12 2019 21:12 GMT
#140
no pre-loading of Borderlands 3 a couple of days before its released.

twitter.com
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