EPTI'm pretty sure LEM is the new DMG. Maybe worse.
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Djzapz
Canada10681 Posts
I'm pretty sure LEM is the new DMG. Maybe worse. | ||
Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
don't really feel like I am LEM or LE quality for that matter but its MM so w/e, atleast my aim is a little bit better. | ||
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jtype
England2167 Posts
 I hope that's not indicative of what's to come. | ||
Ragnarork
France9034 Posts
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Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
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[N3O]r3d33m3r
Germany673 Posts
On October 10 2015 10:22 Djzapz wrote: I don't feel like I'm playing any better when I was DMG-LEM last year but right now I'm shitting all over LEM players on my secondary account. My last 7 games are 6 wins and a tie and I have 30 to 39 kills in 6 of them with roughly a 2:1 to 3:1 KDR for each... which leaves one game where I had 23-2 against a full house of LEM's. I'm pretty sure LEM is the new DMG. Maybe worse. No shit sherlock. The ranking system got changed this spring DMG now is like MG1, MG1 is like GN1. Every rank is worth 3-4 ranks less. All my SEM friends easily got MG1 after the hidden rankup change. | ||
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Ragnarork
France9034 Posts
On November 05 2015 19:50 [N3O]r3d33m3r wrote: No shit sherlock. The ranking system got changed this spring DMG now is like MG1, MG1 is like GN1. Every rank is worth 3-4 ranks less. All my SEM friends easily got MG1 after the hidden rankup change. How so? Any backup to that claim? | ||
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Harvey1
11 Posts
It's still the result of the giant vacwave that hit a few months back, hackers tend to converge in the higher ranks. Global and SMFC pretty much lost loads of players that got vacced. As a result Lems got into global easier which means DMG get into Lem easier, etc etc. | ||
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Ragnarork
France9034 Posts
On November 05 2015 21:34 Harvey1 wrote: It's still the result of the giant vacwave that hit a few months back, hackers tend to converge in the higher ranks. Global and SMFC pretty much lost loads of players that got vacced. As a result Lems got into global easier which means DMG get into Lem easier, etc etc. But CS:GO uses something akin to ELO, so what's the point? In an ELO system, that you remove players close to the top doesn't mean you'll gain points faster...? And ranks are based on ranges, unless that changed (and I would like a source if you claim it has), so that's like completely irrelevant. The only effect it could've had in my opinion, is that you faced at each rank less hackers, which means you got less defeats from that, and thus could string more easily the wins needed to rank up. | ||
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Harvey1
11 Posts
On November 05 2015 21:46 Ragnarork wrote: But CS:GO uses something akin to ELO, so what's the point? In an ELO system, that you remove players close to the top doesn't mean you'll gain points faster...? And ranks are based on ranges, unless that changed (and I would like a source if you claim it has), so that's like completely irrelevant. The only effect it could've had in my opinion, is that you faced at each rank less hackers, which means you got less defeats from that, and thus could string more easily the wins needed to rank up. That is exactly what I was talking about. Think about it like this: There are 10 hackers in Global elite which prevent 10 people from SMFC from promoting because the hackers keep winning games against them. The 10 hackers get banned, so the 10 people from SMFC can promote. At the same time those 10 players in SMFC were preventing people from LEM from promoting. Ofcourse it isnt this clear but in the end banning hackers results in a shift. | ||
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Ragnarork
France9034 Posts
Then, I don't understand why r3d33m3r talked about a "change" in the ranking system, and would neither believe "LEM is the new DMG" without numbers backing that up, it's just a random claim. And I'm not even considering yet that it doesn't mean much to be in a rank, some are there thanks to aim, others to smartness or because they got a bit lucky and had less idiots in their teams. All of this can greatly vary between players of the same rank, so to put up such statements seems kinda random. | ||
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Djzapz
Canada10681 Posts
On November 06 2015 00:13 Ragnarork wrote: Yeah that's basically the only thing that could influence that way (I have a hard time considering it could be this massive, but could be). Then, I don't understand why r3d33m3r talked about a "change" in the ranking system, and would neither believe "LEM is the new DMG" without numbers backing that up, it's just a random claim. And I'm not even considering yet that it doesn't mean much to be in a rank, some are there thanks to aim, others to smartness or because they got a bit lucky and had less idiots in their teams. All of this can greatly vary between players of the same rank, so to put up such statements seems kinda random. By those standards though, there is nothing you can say about the level of difficulty in the ladder without hard stats which are obviously not made available. I don't claim to know without the shadow of a doubt that LEM is now what DMG was about 6 months ago (or whenever the huge ban wave happened). That being said, my friend who back then was stuck between MGE and DMG ranked up to LEM and I'm SMFC on 2 accounts when I know I'm playing no better than I did in early 2015, when I was stuck around DMG myself. Hell, I'm actually significantly worse because I play literally about a tenth as much as I did back then. It's anecdotal for me... but a lot of people are saying the same thing. You don't generally get that unless something's happening. No one on LoL's talking about how they're getting easy rank ups. I'm personally very confident that the ban wave removed enough people from the higher ranks and followed it with a barrier to entry (into matchmaking) that's substantial enough that there's fewer hackers and fewer hackers in the higher ranks, thus freeing space for decent players. Seriously all my DMG/LE buddies and random ladder guys I added are SMFC with me now and we're just as shit as we've always been. I don't even know set smokes ffs. | ||
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Harvey1
11 Posts
On November 06 2015 00:13 Ragnarork wrote: Yeah that's basically the only thing that could influence that way (I have a hard time considering it could be this massive, but could be). Then, I don't understand why r3d33m3r talked about a "change" in the ranking system, and would neither believe "LEM is the new DMG" without numbers backing that up, it's just a random claim. And I'm not even considering yet that it doesn't mean much to be in a rank, some are there thanks to aim, others to smartness or because they got a bit lucky and had less idiots in their teams. All of this can greatly vary between players of the same rank, so to put up such statements seems kinda random. There is no proof, its just a feeling most people have. I myself ranked up 2 times in 5 games after that huge vacwave, while before I was stuck on dmg-lem for a long time. Beside me pretty much everyone I played with often, ranked up really faster after the wave. It's all circumstantial evidence but it's the only explanation I have. | ||
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MysteryMeat1
United States3292 Posts
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lethalbabe
7 Posts
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Rebs
Pakistan10726 Posts
On November 06 2015 16:39 lethalbabe wrote: I haven't played a competitive match in a long time now. My ranks are hidden, I guess. Do I have to play a competitive MM to get the rank back? yes | ||
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MysteryMeat1
United States3292 Posts
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Mozdk
Denmark6989 Posts
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porkRaven
United States953 Posts
On November 10 2015 13:28 Mozdk wrote: 5 years of playing. Master HOTS. Now I am silver. So fucking confused. Too much new shit. Disruptor feels like a mix of SH and WM. It does damage some of the time. It's difficult to control. Haven't found a build that is even remotely solid yet. I wont play anymore until a pro meta has been established. So I can learn from them. It's pretty pointless to play for me atm. Yeah I normally just go ak/m4a4 armor if I can afford it. Haven't tried out the disruptor yet. | ||
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sertas
Sweden889 Posts
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