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Finrod1
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany3997 Posts
March 16 2014 14:29 GMT
#941
Great tournament! Such a cool victory for the polish guys. Well deserved!
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
11845 Posts
March 16 2014 14:29 GMT
#942
On March 16 2014 23:23 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
-friberg and Fifflaren +dennis and krimz for NiP, plz.

forest and xizt can't carry the team alone, and GTR should get substituted for some time from now on.


That does seem a bit premature. They have placed second in the most recent major tournaments. There is also plenty of stuff outside the game itself that reflects on how a team is formed. Personalities is very important in team games.
HandA711
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
202 Posts
March 16 2014 14:29 GMT
#943
Double SC2's viewers. Woot.
hakuna matata
ForTehDarkseid
Profile Joined April 2013
8139 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-16 14:33:36
March 16 2014 14:31 GMT
#944
On March 16 2014 23:28 Roggay wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2014 23:23 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
-friberg and Fifflaren +dennis and krimz for NiP, plz.

forest and xizt can't carry the team alone, and GTR should get substituted for some time from now on.

No.
The reason why NiP has been on top for so long is because they have been so stable as a team. And why would you replace one of the best entry fragger there is and your in game leader at the same time? It would make absolutely no sense, especially after reaching the finals.

NiP were unstoppable when xizt was a game leader. Have they won any premier tournament under Fiff's command?

And friberg currently looks like a shade of his older self. GTR too, but he has shown he is capable of recovering in the past.
I think their strategy is to dumpster bad Western teams (c) uriel
teapoted
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom24425 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-16 14:35:45
March 16 2014 14:33 GMT
#945
Well counter-strike is a game that plays well at very big events and rarely disappoints.

You can't compare viewership to something like SC where fans are watching shit every single day. With the last 2 250k events in CS the 'vast' majority of people only watched the Lan finals and nothing in between.

And to be honest I think that's how it should be. At least for me, CS is something you get easily burned out on watching. A few huge tournaments a year is best.
On March 16 2014 23:31 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2014 23:28 Roggay wrote:
On March 16 2014 23:23 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
-friberg and Fifflaren +dennis and krimz for NiP, plz.

forest and xizt can't carry the team alone, and GTR should get substituted for some time from now on.

No.
The reason why NiP has been on top for so long is because they have been so stable as a team. And why would you replace one of the best entry fragger there is and your in game leader at the same time? It would make absolutely no sense, especially after reaching the finals.

NiP were unstoppable when xizt was a game leader. Have they won any premier tournament under Fiff's command?

And friberg currently looks like a shade of his older self. GTR too, but he has shown he is capable of recovering in the past.
The scene was weaker when Xizt was the in game leader, and they were already showing weaker results because of that at the end of his reign.
Once you Goblak...
Roggay
Profile Joined April 2010
Switzerland6320 Posts
March 16 2014 14:34 GMT
#946
On March 16 2014 23:31 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2014 23:28 Roggay wrote:
On March 16 2014 23:23 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
-friberg and Fifflaren +dennis and krimz for NiP, plz.

forest and xizt can't carry the team alone, and GTR should get substituted for some time from now on.

No.
The reason why NiP has been on top for so long is because they have been so stable as a team. And why would you replace one of the best entry fragger there is and your in game leader at the same time? It would make absolutely no sense, especially after reaching the finals.

NiP were unstoppable when xizt was a game leader. Have they won any premier tournament under Fiff's helm?

And friberg currently looks like a shade of his older self.

Fiff as an IGL is very recent, and you can't say that reaching the finals of katowice is a bad result, and its not like they were winning a lot with xizt in the months before they switched.
And Friberg hasn't played that bad at all either.

I don't understand why you would want to change anything with the team after making the finals. They just did not played that well as a whole in the finals and thats it.
NovaMB
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany9534 Posts
March 16 2014 14:38 GMT
#947
Fifflaren 9-44 in the grand final, ouch. Everyone from NiP had less Kills than Deaths.
ForTehDarkseid
Profile Joined April 2013
8139 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-16 15:11:00
March 16 2014 14:44 GMT
#948
On March 16 2014 23:34 Roggay wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2014 23:31 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
On March 16 2014 23:28 Roggay wrote:
On March 16 2014 23:23 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
-friberg and Fifflaren +dennis and krimz for NiP, plz.

forest and xizt can't carry the team alone, and GTR should get substituted for some time from now on.

No.
The reason why NiP has been on top for so long is because they have been so stable as a team. And why would you replace one of the best entry fragger there is and your in game leader at the same time? It would make absolutely no sense, especially after reaching the finals.

NiP were unstoppable when xizt was a game leader. Have they won any premier tournament under Fiff's helm?

And friberg currently looks like a shade of his older self.

Fiff as an IGL is very recent, and you can't say that reaching the finals of katowice is a bad result, and its not like they were winning a lot with xizt in the months before they switched.
And Friberg hasn't played that bad at all either.

I don't understand why you would want to change anything with the team after making the finals. They just did not played that well as a whole in the finals and thats it.

How many clutches has friberg won for his team at IEM? He used to carry NiP in 1 on 2, 2 on 3 situations countless times in 2013 for comparison. It's not about every other team has suddenly progressed while NiP was stagnating or how would you like to put it.

Because I want NiP to own, right? LGB gave VP twice harder time than NiP, that is not how it's supposed to be.

We have SL LAN Finals as a next clash. Virtus.pro, Titan, Fnatic / HR, NiP as top-4 is basically given. Just imagine if NiP takes 3rd-4th place there, it'll be almost summer, there won't be any time to change the roster before Dreamhack. Do you really want to take the risks giving another chance to underperforming players ?

I, for one, consider such situation unfair to the others Ninjas members. 2014 may be the last year in f0rest's and GTR's career, after all.
I think their strategy is to dumpster bad Western teams (c) uriel
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17261 Posts
March 16 2014 14:49 GMT
#949
On March 16 2014 23:23 teapoted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2014 23:17 Faruko wrote:
On March 16 2014 23:17 WindWolf wrote:
That manner from the crowd, still cheering for NiP! Tears of joy!

Makes thorin looks like a complete asshole now
It really doesn't. Thorin was talking about the state of the country as a whole, not their eSports audience. And those are quite different. The crowds he was talking about was like football crowds, and you can't compare football crowds to esports crowds in any country, and he didn't.

He was exaggerating a bit sure, but I don't know why people are so upset about that shit.

Richard Lewis said a couple of weeks ago that if there was ever a mass murder at an eSports event it would be at a Dota event. That's surely more insulting, that's insulting actual people (in our community even), not the political situation of a country.


He did not exaggerate "a bit".

What he said was:
a) extremely offensive
b) not true at all

As a public person, he should not speak in this way and got fired (and rightly so).
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
SilverStar
Profile Joined January 2012
Sweden18511 Posts
March 16 2014 14:50 GMT
#950
On March 16 2014 23:49 Manit0u wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2014 23:23 teapoted wrote:
On March 16 2014 23:17 Faruko wrote:
On March 16 2014 23:17 WindWolf wrote:
That manner from the crowd, still cheering for NiP! Tears of joy!

Makes thorin looks like a complete asshole now
It really doesn't. Thorin was talking about the state of the country as a whole, not their eSports audience. And those are quite different. The crowds he was talking about was like football crowds, and you can't compare football crowds to esports crowds in any country, and he didn't.

He was exaggerating a bit sure, but I don't know why people are so upset about that shit.

Richard Lewis said a couple of weeks ago that if there was ever a mass murder at an eSports event it would be at a Dota event. That's surely more insulting, that's insulting actual people (in our community even), not the political situation of a country.


He did not exaggerate "a bit".

What he said was:
a) extremely offensive
b) not true at all

As a public person, he should not speak in this way and got fired (and rightly so).

Yeah agreed, even if there are some half-truths to it he isn't the person who should be spouting them.
Slardar
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada7593 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-16 16:40:56
March 16 2014 16:39 GMT
#951
Grats to VP that was unexpected. Pasha absolutely killing it....and well on NiP's side Fiff was a no-show in terms of frags. In his shoes I would've just said someone else call the shots for a few rounds while I get my in-game focus and morale up.

#BicepArmy #SlardarBiceps
Souma
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
March 16 2014 16:47 GMT
#952
Welcome to the Kong line, NiP.
Writer
ForTehDarkseid
Profile Joined April 2013
8139 Posts
March 16 2014 17:29 GMT
#953
On March 17 2014 01:47 Souma wrote:
Welcome to the Kong line, NiP.

Oh no, you don't.
I think their strategy is to dumpster bad Western teams (c) uriel
Zavior
Profile Joined August 2009
Finland753 Posts
March 16 2014 17:41 GMT
#954
On March 17 2014 01:47 Souma wrote:
Welcome to the Kong line, NiP.


how can you join the Kong line after being the most dominant team the game has seen with multiple tournament victories
Souma
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
March 16 2014 18:20 GMT
#955
It's an after-the-fact demotion. Times change! :d
Writer
Thienan567
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States670 Posts
March 16 2014 20:36 GMT
#956
All of a sudden people are saying nip sucks and need to replace players. Uh, you do know second place in the biggest tournament in fucking forever is no easy feat, right guys? Everyone already said mirage was not a map nip played too much on, the other two maps could have gone either way, VP just played their best on both maps and won both. Gratz to them but don't take this chance to shit on nip because you can't.

I'm not even an nip fanboy I was cheering for col and vp the entire tourney but you guys seriously need to reconsider your definition of 'good' if you don't think 2nd place at iem is good.
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