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Spaylz
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan1743 Posts
June 17 2014 13:49 GMT
#821
So far, 12 players still. There is time until the tournament, if we choose to hold it on July 5th-6th.

If we do not get 16 players, could 12 work? If so, I would play and not stream though. Might be better for the very first tournament. We'll see. Let's give it another week or two.

Long live WC3!
I like words.
Jarvs
Profile Joined December 2009
Australia639 Posts
June 18 2014 09:56 GMT
#822
Haha some of those maps arent the most balanced (namely LT and GW) but really, who cares? I'm okay with that list.
McRatyn
Profile Joined January 2013
Poland901 Posts
June 18 2014 10:05 GMT
#823
On June 18 2014 18:56 Jarvs wrote:
Haha some of those maps arent the most balanced (namely LT and GW) but really, who cares? I'm okay with that list.

The concept of balance in WC3 is almost entirely foreign to me lol. I only know that Orc is imba and UD is shit XD
Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4139 Posts
June 18 2014 10:14 GMT
#824
On June 18 2014 19:05 McRatyn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2014 18:56 Jarvs wrote:
Haha some of those maps arent the most balanced (namely LT and GW) but really, who cares? I'm okay with that list.

The concept of balance in WC3 is almost entirely foreign to me lol. I only know that Orc is imba and UD is shit XD

Are you talking about Orc vs UD? thats definitely true, but UD>NE and UD=HU until HU triple heroes are on lvl4.
On lower leagues: UD>Orc.
Grubby | ToD | Moon | Lyn | Sky
followZeRoX
Profile Joined March 2011
Serbia1451 Posts
June 18 2014 11:13 GMT
#825
On June 18 2014 19:14 Dingodile wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2014 19:05 McRatyn wrote:
On June 18 2014 18:56 Jarvs wrote:
Haha some of those maps arent the most balanced (namely LT and GW) but really, who cares? I'm okay with that list.

The concept of balance in WC3 is almost entirely foreign to me lol. I only know that Orc is imba and UD is shit XD

Are you talking about Orc vs UD? thats definitely true, but UD>NE and UD=HU until HU triple heroes are on lvl4.
On lower leagues: UD>Orc.


undead was never stronger then NE, maybe UD>HU when destroyers could heal mana on fountain but that patch (only one when UD was overpowered), was abandoned after 14 days. Then they buffed HU and since then UD is weaksest race.
McRatyn
Profile Joined January 2013
Poland901 Posts
June 18 2014 15:07 GMT
#826
On June 18 2014 20:13 JanDe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2014 19:14 Dingodile wrote:
On June 18 2014 19:05 McRatyn wrote:
On June 18 2014 18:56 Jarvs wrote:
Haha some of those maps arent the most balanced (namely LT and GW) but really, who cares? I'm okay with that list.

The concept of balance in WC3 is almost entirely foreign to me lol. I only know that Orc is imba and UD is shit XD

Are you talking about Orc vs UD? thats definitely true, but UD>NE and UD=HU until HU triple heroes are on lvl4.
On lower leagues: UD>Orc.


undead was never stronger then NE, maybe UD>HU when destroyers could heal mana on fountain but that patch (only one when UD was overpowered), was abandoned after 14 days. Then they buffed HU and since then UD is weaksest race.

I thought like universally, that UD was just in a pretty bad place to play competitiely and Orc was just strong all around
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
June 18 2014 15:14 GMT
#827
yo i wanna signup but blizzard banned my cd key from ladderplay for some reason but i think i should still be able to play custom/lan games
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
Mafs
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada458 Posts
June 18 2014 15:18 GMT
#828
ill sign up as long as i dont need to make an account somewhere and do all the registration crap.

bnet id: MGS2Raiden

Kabras
Profile Joined June 2011
Romania3508 Posts
June 18 2014 15:20 GMT
#829
On June 19 2014 00:18 Mafs wrote:
ill sign up as long as i dont need to make an account somewhere and do all the registration crap.

bnet id: MGS2Raiden


you'll have to get a w3arena account or garena account depending on where the games are gonna be played. bnet is almost unplayable cuz of monster lag.
"So playing SF in pubs, everyone remember that a very important point is that when using a carry hero like this you must be very selfish. Because working with team mates is a very dangerous thing" - 2009
followZeRoX
Profile Joined March 2011
Serbia1451 Posts
June 18 2014 16:10 GMT
#830
On June 19 2014 00:14 teddyoojo wrote:
yo i wanna signup but blizzard banned my cd key from ladderplay for some reason but i think i should still be able to play custom/lan games


i have 1 TFT spare cd key. If you can get 1 more ROC, it can work.
followZeRoX
Profile Joined March 2011
Serbia1451 Posts
June 18 2014 16:10 GMT
#831
On June 19 2014 00:07 McRatyn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2014 20:13 JanDe wrote:
On June 18 2014 19:14 Dingodile wrote:
On June 18 2014 19:05 McRatyn wrote:
On June 18 2014 18:56 Jarvs wrote:
Haha some of those maps arent the most balanced (namely LT and GW) but really, who cares? I'm okay with that list.

The concept of balance in WC3 is almost entirely foreign to me lol. I only know that Orc is imba and UD is shit XD

Are you talking about Orc vs UD? thats definitely true, but UD>NE and UD=HU until HU triple heroes are on lvl4.
On lower leagues: UD>Orc.


undead was never stronger then NE, maybe UD>HU when destroyers could heal mana on fountain but that patch (only one when UD was overpowered), was abandoned after 14 days. Then they buffed HU and since then UD is weaksest race.

I thought like universally, that UD was just in a pretty bad place to play competitiely and Orc was just strong all around


I understand you, I replied to Dingodile.
Capresis
Profile Joined September 2008
United States518 Posts
June 18 2014 16:21 GMT
#832
There would be less lag problems if we did it on GArena, right? Due to it being p2p compared to w3arena needing a server host?
Jarvs
Profile Joined December 2009
Australia639 Posts
June 18 2014 17:36 GMT
#833
On June 19 2014 00:14 teddyoojo wrote:
yo i wanna signup but blizzard banned my cd key from ladderplay for some reason but i think i should still be able to play custom/lan games


w3arena/GArena doesn't need a legit key as far as I'm aware. I'm sure you know why you are banned though :/

The balance discussion in War3 is beaten to death but there are a few things that always surface such as the Orc vs UD matchup and some maps lending itself to mass expos behind countless towers. Though balance really only comes in to play when the skill gap is fairly close anyway.
Salema
Profile Joined May 2014
United Kingdom21 Posts
June 19 2014 17:18 GMT
#834
Anyone play custom games anymore? I miss the times before bots took over when good cgs were hosted ie dark deeds 6, final fantasy orpg, loap etc
"Real knowledge is to know the extent of one's ignorance." - Confucius
jeeeeohn
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States1343 Posts
June 20 2014 04:50 GMT
#835
Got a reply from Nazgul, said he'd rather not lend the Team Liquid name to our little tournament. Oh well!
If you can't jam with the best, then you have to slam with the rest.
Spaylz
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan1743 Posts
June 20 2014 16:59 GMT
#836
That isn't a problem. There is no need to associate the tournament, it's just a fun little event

Regarding w3arena/Garena, I am personally open to both. I made the poll for a reason though, and so far w3arena is winning. I could make another poll, if need be. We are still at the same player count, as I am unsure about Mats.

@Mats: would you play on Garena or w3arena? BNet is sort of out of the question by default due to insane lag.

@teddyoojo, same question: would you be fine with w3arena/garena?

If both of you answer, I can add you and then we are up to 14. For now, it seems I will not be streaming, as 16 players would be ideal.

Perhaps we could start discussing organization. For now, July 5th-6th is the winning weekend. I'm sure it's fairly easy to find or make a bracket for the tournament. We could use this very thread for everything, unless you guys think it'd be too bothersome?

I am open to suggestions. Feel free to chime in!
I like words.
jeeeeohn
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States1343 Posts
June 21 2014 16:00 GMT
#837
Maybe we could seed everyone based on experience (using bnet profiles as a reference point, assuming that's okay), and do it like seed 16 vs seed 1, etc.
If you can't jam with the best, then you have to slam with the rest.
3point14
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany890 Posts
June 21 2014 16:40 GMT
#838
On June 22 2014 01:00 jeeeeohn wrote:
Maybe we could seed everyone based on experience (using bnet profiles as a reference point, assuming that's okay), and do it like seed 16 vs seed 1, etc.

or 2on2 tournament with teams: seed 16 and 1, seed 15 and 2,...
Tchado
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Jordan1831 Posts
June 23 2014 16:16 GMT
#839
Fuck Yeah ESL !!!!! I hope they make more of these !

Spaylz
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan1743 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-30 07:57:04
June 30 2014 07:55 GMT
#840
Hey all of you guys!

So, the weekend of July 5th-6th is approaching, so let's see what we got.

The Tournament

So far, we've got 13 participants including myself, as per the list below. I would have hoped for 16, but I guess either 8 or 12 can do. Is it possible to do a tournament with 12? 6 matches in the beginning, then 3, then semi finals, then finals.... Should work. If not, we can do 8.

Reminder; List of participants for a WC3 tournament (so far):

- Spaylz
- 3point14
- jeeeeohn
- Kabras
- monk
- Jarvs
- duckk
- capu
- Capricis
- McRatyn
- JanDe
- Tchado
- Emerson_H


Should it be 8 or 12? Vote away:

+ Show Spoiler +
Poll: 8 or 12 players?

12 (4)
 
100%

8 (0)
 
0%

4 total votes

Your vote: 8 or 12 players?

(Vote): 8
(Vote): 12



The Organization

First of all, I don't think I'm going to cast, as I'll likely need to play. It might be better to save that for future tournaments, if this one goes well.

Furthermore, I'm going to need everyone to reconfirm attendance later this week. It's probably better to organize the tournament on Sunday, so I will do a check-up in this thread the day before. For the record, we will use http://www.binarybeast.com/ to create the bracket, and you will be able to find it here. We can use this thread to report results. The bracket will be featured on the thread with a link so people can access it, and I will update the progress of the tournament. I think it'll give it a bigger sense of community.

Most people voted for this weekend of July 5th-6th, but let us confirm, Saturday or Sunday?

+ Show Spoiler +
Poll: Saturday (5th) or Sunday (6th)

Sunday (3)
 
75%

Saturday (1)
 
25%

4 total votes

Your vote: Saturday (5th) or Sunday (6th)

(Vote): Saturday
(Vote): Sunday



And lastly, while people overwhelmingly voted for w3arena for a platform, there were some later doubts favoring GArena. I say let us vote again:

+ Show Spoiler +
Poll: GArena or w3arena?

GArena (3)
 
60%

w3arena (2)
 
40%

5 total votes

Your vote: GArena or w3arena?

(Vote): GArena
(Vote): w3arena



That is all for now, people! I will give more information regarding the tournament later this week, with the exact mappool with every round. Hopefully it all goes well, and we can make more of these. If you guys have suggestions or criticism, go ahead and speak up, it's a community effort!

Long live WC3!
I like words.
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