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Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
May 17 2005 09:16 GMT
#201
However, alot of these players are people that logged on once, got some lucky hands and won $$, correct? Or are they all long-term winners?

Because I think long-term winners should be less than 40%
Administrator
-_-
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States7081 Posts
May 17 2005 09:30 GMT
#202
On May 17 2005 07:21 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2005 21:42 -_- wrote:
Poker's just too risky for me. Perhaps when I'm twenty five and have a life, job, girlfriend/wife, maybe. From your post you admitted that things could've easily gone badly if luck had screwed you. I just wouldn't be able to risk that.

when you have a job/wife it'll be prime-time for disasters.


Don't crush my poker dreams!!!

Why would having a steady job be a prime time for disasters anyway?
Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
May 17 2005 09:34 GMT
#203
because then you have something to lose, might it go wrong?
Administrator
Casper...
Profile Joined October 2002
Liberia4948 Posts
May 17 2005 10:57 GMT
#204
it's entirely possible to be a longtime small winner by having limited weapons and intelligence
JAM THE FUCKER!
Casper...
Profile Joined October 2002
Liberia4948 Posts
May 17 2005 10:59 GMT
#205
say a guy sucks but knows how to play AA/KK well and is competent with draws
he would win a small amount

weak/tight pussies would also win/lose small amounts depending on their weapons
JAM THE FUCKER!
FroZZoR
Profile Joined October 2002
China925 Posts
May 17 2005 11:03 GMT
#206
On May 17 2005 18:30 -_- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2005 07:21 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
On May 16 2005 21:42 -_- wrote:
Poker's just too risky for me. Perhaps when I'm twenty five and have a life, job, girlfriend/wife, maybe. From your post you admitted that things could've easily gone badly if luck had screwed you. I just wouldn't be able to risk that.

when you have a job/wife it'll be prime-time for disasters.


Don't crush my poker dreams!!!

Why would having a steady job be a prime time for disasters anyway?


u shouldn't play poker if you are afraid. you must be fearless to win a lot.
There can be only one
Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
May 17 2005 11:06 GMT
#207
Casper question remains though, in your PT does it include people that have played like 1 session? Because among those are still people that are consistent losers.
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Casper...
Profile Joined October 2002
Liberia4948 Posts
May 17 2005 11:24 GMT
#208
i can't run that without skewing it with my own results
ie filtering for 500+ hands

my gut tells me it would hold

most players suck
JAM THE FUCKER!
Casper...
Profile Joined October 2002
Liberia4948 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-05-17 11:30:05
May 17 2005 11:26 GMT
#209
ran it anyways

for 500 hands:

62% winners
38% losers

for 250 hands:

56%
44%

better players play more because they win and that's about all this says ;p

you see it all the time
bad player sucks out and runs with the money so he can lose it later
JAM THE FUCKER!
Casper...
Profile Joined October 2002
Liberia4948 Posts
May 17 2005 11:31 GMT
#210
all this means is that a bad player doesn't survive long enough for me to see him very much
JAM THE FUCKER!
Casper...
Profile Joined October 2002
Liberia4948 Posts
May 17 2005 11:35 GMT
#211
dunno what the implications would be for higher stakes play where people recreationally lose money and have the funds to continually play
JAM THE FUCKER!
Jim
Profile Joined November 2003
Sweden1965 Posts
May 17 2005 15:21 GMT
#212
Imo about 90% of the players lose. Mostly due to rake. Without it, perhaps 40%. I am with nazgul on this one. There are a certain 10% who know how to play and the rest just luck out on eachother.
To sup with the mighty ones, one must climb the path of daggers.
Casper...
Profile Joined October 2002
Liberia4948 Posts
May 17 2005 16:22 GMT
#213
10% is high
maybe 2% know what they are doing with any degree of competence
JAM THE FUCKER!
pinbaLL
Profile Joined March 2004
Sweden1711 Posts
May 17 2005 19:12 GMT
#214
and all of em think they know what theyre doing

dunno if im in the 2% or the 98%, but im winning anyway.
- Evergrey - This is a fucking British flag, and these colours dont fucking run! - Bruce Dickinson
Casper...
Profile Joined October 2002
Liberia4948 Posts
May 17 2005 20:05 GMT
#215
it's entirely possible to develop a pattern of play that wins without knowing why it works
JAM THE FUCKER!
Dirk
Profile Joined May 2003
United States1339 Posts
May 17 2005 21:45 GMT
#216
Imo about 90% of the players lose. Mostly due to rake. Without it, perhaps 40%. I am with nazgul on this one. There are a certain 10% who know how to play and the rest just luck out on eachother


Exactly, thats why as soon as I even heard mention of rakeback programs I dropped my party poker account in a heart beat, based on poker tracker I lose about $1000 to rake every 2-3 days.
Dont confuse me wit these suckas... cuz when I spit, you here more OOOs than a skip to my lou move.. at the ruckers - Lloyd Banks
Sean.G
Profile Joined October 2004
Spain889 Posts
May 17 2005 22:30 GMT
#217
What exactly is "freerolls", and how does it work?
"He is fighting in this match like we've never seen a terran player fight before. He is fighting as hard as Orlando Bloom fights for the affections of Keira Knightly in Pirates of the Caribbean 3, and hopefully he'll have more success" - Klazart
Twisted
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands13554 Posts
May 17 2005 23:23 GMT
#218
Just a tournament you are free to enter, you don't need to buy-in.
Moderator
x2fst
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
1272 Posts
May 17 2005 23:42 GMT
#219
My experiance is as follows:
My friends gave me $200 for my 18th bithday into online poker, cos we had played like 3 times in the previous month.

Anyway , first hand ever online I end up going all-in with AA and get A on the river and win $700, then my Dad walked in while I was still twitching with happiness and banned me from playing poker online for real money. I didn't care AT ALL that I was banned cos I realised that i could've so easily lost the $200 and the fact that I risked it meant that I wasnt cut out for real poker.


Anyway this guy I know at school hears about this cos I bragged like a mofo, and he tells his friend and they "see how easy it is to win buttloads of money with online poker" cos they had like 30k at playmoney,

they lost a combined $850 in 4 days and it fucked them up so bad, one of their parents kicked him out for like 2 weeks cos he was also doing bad at school and the money he lost was birthday money meant for schoolies
the other kid sold his tv and ps2 to put the money back in his back account so his parents wouldnt find out how much he lost (cos they check it to make sure he isn't wasting too much on food etc)

I cringe whenever i think of me winning the $800 cos it oculd've so easily gone wrong, I ONLY play playmoney now and I play that like 1 hour every two days or soemthing.

So for all you guys who want some stories about poker fucking people up this is one.

Don't play money poker unless you are prepared to cut your losses and quit while your ahead UNLESS you're good. and if you think you're good think again cos it's 99% chance that you're not (I KNOW I'm not good at all).
muda, is a crime for me to wear a shirt, cos I is so good lookin
MPXMX
Profile Joined December 2002
Canada4309 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-05-18 00:04:29
May 17 2005 23:50 GMT
#220
I think you and those people you know, x2fst, have a big fondness for gambling. 200, 850 dollars waged by totally inexperienced players from what I understand... that's just foolish. IMO poker at a decent level is not really supposed to be a gamble
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