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Souma
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
January 31 2014 04:37 GMT
#6381
Yeah. That last round was pretty crazy.
Writer
insectoceanx
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States331 Posts
January 31 2014 04:42 GMT
#6382
2 of the 5 games I played we somehow managed ties with me being the only person with a mic. I don't get why people play this game without sound or mic. The game is just much more fun when everyone works somewhat coordinated.
Valhalla44
Profile Joined May 2010
Bosnia-Herzegovina983 Posts
January 31 2014 07:04 GMT
#6383
On January 31 2014 13:42 insectoceanx wrote:
2 of the 5 games I played we somehow managed ties with me being the only person with a mic. I don't get why people play this game without sound or mic. The game is just much more fun when everyone works somewhat coordinated.


U should see when u have 5 ppl and everybody is shouting calls at start of the round :D :D .
Everyone wants 2 be the leader i guess .
Nagisama
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada4481 Posts
January 31 2014 08:10 GMT
#6384
On January 31 2014 16:04 Valhalla44 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2014 13:42 insectoceanx wrote:
2 of the 5 games I played we somehow managed ties with me being the only person with a mic. I don't get why people play this game without sound or mic. The game is just much more fun when everyone works somewhat coordinated.


U should see when u have 5 ppl and everybody is shouting calls at start of the round :D :D .
Everyone wants 2 be the leader i guess .

Or the back seat gaming when you're last one alive trying to clutch. Although I admit I'm guilty of that myself sometimes too.
Calendar"Everyone who has accomplished more than you has no life; Everyone who has accomplished less than you is a noob." | Elem: "nagi is actually really smart"
nanospartan
Profile Joined July 2011
649 Posts
January 31 2014 11:57 GMT
#6385
So for strafe shooting, should you be holding shift as you change directions? It seems that when I try that, I often fuck up the accuracy on my shots, is it strafe->move cancel/shoot->direction change->repeat or strafe->walk speed/shoot->direction change?
Is it just the smoothness of the cancel and shooting that makes it appear as the player has not stopped/is walk shooting?
How can I emulate this?

(video of example)
I was an athiest until I watched the Day[9] daily
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20343 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-31 12:25:33
January 31 2014 12:11 GMT
#6386
Is there a gun control 101? I've been trying to play a bit more recently, but honestly i only played one FPS seriously (well, CSGO-like FPS), and stuff behaved quite differently

Particularly, crosshair and where bullets went. In this other game, bullets could only land inside the crosshair. It would move (recoil) when you fired - and expand (bloom) when you fired or moved/jumped/etc, both different amounts and different ways depending on the gun etc, but it was very solid in that bullets could only go within X area, even if X area was half of your screen while you were falling and being shot to death

With CSGO i seem to have a hard time hitting people, i can single-tap-fire 10 shots and then it seems only one or two of them connect, but it does not feel like i am messing it up that badly. I'm somewhat accurate, playing with about 25-30cm/180 right now with a deathadder 3.5g and qck+ at 1800dpi (basically, nothing screwy on the input-side, as far as i know)

There was a few mechanics in this game, like when you scoped with sniper, there were bars at left/right of scope that were varying levels of full/empty depending on if you were moving slowly/fast, if you were shot etc, that determined your accuracy. There were a few techniques such as switching direction and firing when your speed was ~0 to get a basically pixel perfect shot while still moving on a gun that otherwise could not shoot that way (shot would just fly randomly)

^I feel like there's stuff like that that i'm missing with CSGO. I have no idea where bullets will go, aside from hopefully in the general direction of the middle of my screen

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=9mpITZdZJAI


That video is beautiful ;w;
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Nagisama
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada4481 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-31 13:47:55
January 31 2014 13:44 GMT
#6387
I feel this video applies to both questions.



For additional info on gun control 101, here's a slightly more recent video. They both cover about the same basics, but I'm not too sure if the "wiggle" that adren refers to is still in the game. I remember there were some patches about doing things like that but not sure if it applied to this stuff.



On January 31 2014 20:57 nanospartan wrote:
is it strafe->move cancel/shoot->direction change->repeat or strafe->walk speed/shoot->direction change?
Is it just the smoothness of the cancel and shooting that makes it appear as the player has not stopped/is walk shooting?

Basically, yes. IIRC there was a video that described exactly this, but I can't seem to find it so =(.

To improve more on strafe shooting, just play some aim maps on community servers that will really drill strafe shooting into you. Or play deathmatch, that works too.

Additional video on crosshair placement by adren.

Calendar"Everyone who has accomplished more than you has no life; Everyone who has accomplished less than you is a noob." | Elem: "nagi is actually really smart"
Nimix
Profile Joined October 2011
France1809 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-31 14:23:23
January 31 2014 14:21 GMT
#6388
@Cyro, if you didn't do it yet you need to set your rates properly too. I don't remember what they are by default but I think you need to set them higher (rate 128000 cl_updaterate 128 cl_cmdrate 128 cl_interp_ratio 1 cl_interp 0 iirc). The hits should register better, sadly the official valve servers are only 64 tickrate which is not that good.
I didn't check the guides Nagisama linked but I assume they answer your question about the guns They all have a unique behavior, some can't be expected to hit accurately at long or even mid range, and spraying takes practice to control.
About straffing and shooting, I think you need to tap the opposite direction to stop your character from moving. If you're strafing left, tap right, shoot, move right, tap left, shoot, etc
kusto
Profile Joined November 2010
Russian Federation823 Posts
January 31 2014 14:52 GMT
#6389
On January 31 2014 23:21 Nimix wrote:
@Cyro, if you didn't do it yet you need to set your rates properly too. I don't remember what they are by default but I think you need to set them higher (rate 128000 cl_updaterate 128 cl_cmdrate 128 cl_interp_ratio 1 cl_interp 0 iirc). The hits should register better, sadly the official valve servers are only 64 tickrate which is not that good.


Can you refer to preferential values of these settings? I was also always using the default settings, so i might see improvement, too.

Also thanks for the tips and videos everyone!
the game is the game
Nagisama
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada4481 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-31 15:15:01
January 31 2014 15:14 GMT
#6390
On January 31 2014 23:52 kusto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2014 23:21 Nimix wrote:
@Cyro, if you didn't do it yet you need to set your rates properly too. I don't remember what they are by default but I think you need to set them higher (rate 128000 cl_updaterate 128 cl_cmdrate 128 cl_interp_ratio 1 cl_interp 0 iirc). The hits should register better, sadly the official valve servers are only 64 tickrate which is not that good.


Can you refer to preferential values of these settings? I was also always using the default settings, so i might see improvement, too.

Also thanks for the tips and videos everyone!



Here are the settings you need:
rate 128000
cl_updaterate 128
cl_cmdrate 128
cl_interp_ratio 1
cl_interp 0
Calendar"Everyone who has accomplished more than you has no life; Everyone who has accomplished less than you is a noob." | Elem: "nagi is actually really smart"
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20343 Posts
January 31 2014 16:19 GMT
#6391
That rate stuff sounds.. super important. Why isn't it default? how do i open console?
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Cool Cat
Profile Joined June 2009
United States1644 Posts
January 31 2014 16:25 GMT
#6392
*whips out glock* THIS AINT THE KILLING HOUSE ANYMORE...THIS IS REAL LIFE!
Lockitupv2
Profile Joined March 2012
United States496 Posts
January 31 2014 16:35 GMT
#6393
On February 01 2014 01:25 Cool Cat wrote:
*whips out glock* THIS AINT THE KILLING HOUSE ANYMORE...THIS IS REAL LIFE!

why would a ct have a glock
That's right folks, I definitely heard an ethnic twang in that voice, so everyone put your guesses on the screen. It's everyone's favorite game, it's Guess the Minority!!!
Nimix
Profile Joined October 2011
France1809 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-31 16:42:34
January 31 2014 16:41 GMT
#6394
On February 01 2014 01:19 Cyro wrote:
That rate stuff sounds.. super important. Why isn't it default? how do i open console?

-console into launch options, set a shortcut ingame, press shortcut :p
It sets the max download/upload rate the game can use, so I guess they set it lower by default in case you're playing on dialup or whatnot, to avoid people bitching about how they can't play or they are getting disconnects. It was the same in 1.6 and source. Note that the servers will auto adjust update and cmdrate if they need to lower it, so just set it to 128 in the console and don't be bothered if you open the netgraph and see them on 64, it's just the 64 tickrate server lowering them automatically. They'll go back to 128 if you play on a 128 tickrate.
Nagisama
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada4481 Posts
January 31 2014 16:42 GMT
#6395
On February 01 2014 01:19 Cyro wrote:
That rate stuff sounds.. super important. Why isn't it default? how do i open console?

Help & Options > Game Settings > Enable Developer Console (~)

Default key is "~"

It's pretty useful to enter in commands and stuff, and make custom binds of keys.
Calendar"Everyone who has accomplished more than you has no life; Everyone who has accomplished less than you is a noob." | Elem: "nagi is actually really smart"
Cool Cat
Profile Joined June 2009
United States1644 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-31 22:06:04
January 31 2014 22:05 GMT
#6396
You'll want to put the rate stuff into an autoexec. I personally use mono's config which can be found here http://pastebin.com/LbReRY2G , but if you want to use a pro player's autoexec then just google it or find their stream and ask.

On February 01 2014 01:35 Lockitupv2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2014 01:25 Cool Cat wrote:
*whips out glock* THIS AINT THE KILLING HOUSE ANYMORE...THIS IS REAL LIFE!

why would a ct have a glock

because i took it from the terrorist i killed....baka
PaqMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1475 Posts
February 01 2014 06:55 GMT
#6397
On February 01 2014 07:05 Cool Cat wrote:
You'll want to put the rate stuff into an autoexec. I personally use mono's config which can be found here http://pastebin.com/LbReRY2G , but if you want to use a pro player's autoexec then just google it or find their stream and ask.

Show nested quote +
On February 01 2014 01:35 Lockitupv2 wrote:
On February 01 2014 01:25 Cool Cat wrote:
*whips out glock* THIS AINT THE KILLING HOUSE ANYMORE...THIS IS REAL LIFE!

why would a ct have a glock

because i took it from the terrorist i killed....baka


Where do you put the config?
t(ツ)t
ReignSupreme.
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
Australia4123 Posts
February 01 2014 07:38 GMT
#6398
Steam\steamapps\common\Counter-Strike Global Offensive\csgo\cfg
Cool Cat
Profile Joined June 2009
United States1644 Posts
February 01 2014 07:52 GMT
#6399
On February 01 2014 15:55 PaqMan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2014 07:05 Cool Cat wrote:
You'll want to put the rate stuff into an autoexec. I personally use mono's config which can be found here http://pastebin.com/LbReRY2G , but if you want to use a pro player's autoexec then just google it or find their stream and ask.

On February 01 2014 01:35 Lockitupv2 wrote:
On February 01 2014 01:25 Cool Cat wrote:
*whips out glock* THIS AINT THE KILLING HOUSE ANYMORE...THIS IS REAL LIFE!

why would a ct have a glock

because i took it from the terrorist i killed....baka


Where do you put the config?

http://www.reddit.com/r/GlobalOffensive/comments/y7156/autoexeccfg_for_csgo/
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
February 01 2014 07:56 GMT
#6400
Streaming hostage maps five stack : D

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