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Pwere
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1557 Posts
December 29 2013 06:27 GMT
#12701
The fact that HP in this game works as eHP, more leech and stun/ailment resist makes it just that much better. You'd need some sort of supernode with "+20% leech rate, +15% stun recovery, +15% to avoid ailments" to make up for for a single life node.

ps. Slix, my point was that her fireform is easy to deal with, but it's not much use if you still die to random stuff (and probably lightning). HP imba.
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
December 29 2013 06:50 GMT
#12702
http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/698071/page/1

Take a look at this guy too. He's running Nemesis with only magic items and pretty minimal trading/ grinding.
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vndestiny
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Singapore3458 Posts
December 29 2013 09:36 GMT
#12703
On December 29 2013 15:50 ticklishmusic wrote:
http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/698071/page/1

Take a look at this guy too. He's running Nemesis with only magic items and pretty minimal trading/ grinding.


Not really minimal trading but other than that, that guy is awesome.
FractalsOnFire
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Australia1756 Posts
December 29 2013 10:00 GMT
#12704
On December 29 2013 15:50 ticklishmusic wrote:
http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/698071/page/1

Take a look at this guy too. He's running Nemesis with only magic items and pretty minimal trading/ grinding.


Hah this is an awesome read.
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
December 29 2013 18:15 GMT
#12705
On December 29 2013 18:36 vndestiny wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2013 15:50 ticklishmusic wrote:
http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/698071/page/1

Take a look at this guy too. He's running Nemesis with only magic items and pretty minimal trading/ grinding.


Not really minimal trading but other than that, that guy is awesome.


Eh, but he's trading at a reasonable rate. For example, he's been complaining about needing a new wand. The friend who showed me the thread offered him a +spell damage + lightning damage wand for cheap, but he didn't take it because that would have been too easy.
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oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-30 04:26:26
December 30 2013 04:25 GMT
#12706
that prob will not work for an attack based build though.

maybe if you stack ele dmg on gear and use an aura build. electrocuting corsair of celebration
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-30 05:42:50
December 30 2013 05:40 GMT
#12707
Yeah, gear check for melee is much more brutal. I can't imagine what you'd have to use to kill some stuff, probably need crazy smoke mine + blind + puncture shenanigan where you literally run in, hit a boss three times, then run away and repeat for an hour. Not fun.

Welp, I'm going to buy some points and wait for a deal on stash tabs. I'll trade an exalt for an inventory of ID scrolls, then go farm until I'm out of them. I should probably try and build a dedicated MF character though-- what's a good build? Burned Miscreation summoner spamming some sort of cull?

I might start playing with the Steam client, but I'm scared to see the hours I'd rack up on it :x
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EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5262 Posts
December 30 2013 06:51 GMT
#12708
I think the burned miscreation summoner is the best MFer.

I personally was running an EK EB MFer; the gear requirement for EK is really low so it's easy to stack on MF, and I find it more fun than playing a summoner. I got to 200 rarity/43 quant pretty easily, and my clear speed on Piety was good.
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8699 Posts
December 30 2013 09:52 GMT
#12709
Well, it would probably work but take a long time and a lot of patience. There were some people in d2 playing iron man with babarian. That's probably not everyones cup of tea.
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
December 30 2013 10:35 GMT
#12710
if you play on domination league, i think there are a bunch of players starting up a dominus farming group soon. that is more efficient than solo mfing unless you can do high maps pretty fast in mf gear.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
vndestiny
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Singapore3458 Posts
December 30 2013 10:46 GMT
#12711
What are you doing here ? Go out and enjoy your vacation shoo .
And I've arranged some group Dom runs but it's still rough, need fodder to carry or it would be too slow and dom just kills everyone.
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
December 30 2013 11:09 GMT
#12712
was checking poe forum pms lol. some guy wants to buy my old armor 620 es with 1 30 resist and 30 int, 5l with rrggb colors for 3.5ex. but i haven't linked the new one yet. not sure if i can sell. (not that i can even log in to make the trade lol)
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Broetchenholer
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1965 Posts
December 30 2013 12:30 GMT
#12713
Hey Guys, just started playing, first char a shadow. I wanted to put some thought in my passive-build and there is one passive that i just can't evaluate. It's Acrobatics, the defensive boost it gives should be absolutely huge. However, it basically neuters the shield, and with that, a lot of defensive passives you can get. So, i could get it and go for pure evasion on my stuff, or i could stay on hybrid and just take the hit on the shield, or i could not take dodge at all. I just can't see where the numbers gonna be at the end.

I want to play a 1hand/shield guy with daggers, i liked the idea of building a massive energy shield and low health, taking Ghost Reaver to keep the shield full and be a quick melee that way. So basically, is it, with little resources and not uber-items, possible to have a energy shield high enough to not just die from having basically no health?
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14081 Posts
December 30 2013 12:36 GMT
#12714
On December 30 2013 21:30 Broetchenholer wrote:
Hey Guys, just started playing, first char a shadow. I wanted to put some thought in my passive-build and there is one passive that i just can't evaluate. It's Acrobatics, the defensive boost it gives should be absolutely huge. However, it basically neuters the shield, and with that, a lot of defensive passives you can get. So, i could get it and go for pure evasion on my stuff, or i could stay on hybrid and just take the hit on the shield, or i could not take dodge at all. I just can't see where the numbers gonna be at the end.

I want to play a 1hand/shield guy with daggers, i liked the idea of building a massive energy shield and low health, taking Ghost Reaver to keep the shield full and be a quick melee that way. So basically, is it, with little resources and not uber-items, possible to have a energy shield high enough to not just die from having basically no health?

Shield doesn't neuter evasion, quite the contrary.

75% block would have the same mitigation as 50% block and 50% evasion. However, 75% is also the block cap. Since total mitigation gets better the higher it gets (e.g. going from 0% to 50% is just as good as going from 50% to 75%) finding ways to combine mitigation is great.

ES builds in general are more gear dependent than Life builds. Also ES doesn't do well with Acrobatics for obvious reasons. =P ... I'd just go life in your case.
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
Broetchenholer
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1965 Posts
December 30 2013 12:56 GMT
#12715
My bad, made that unclear, always was talking about ES and Acrobatics, not shield and Acrobatics. The shield is just an obvious bonus But going full evasion/ES as defensive passives and then itimizing for max-ES, is that gonna let me live, or am i gonna blow up? Cause i am pretty sure just taking hybrid equip and Acrobatics is certainly the worst thing to do.
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
December 30 2013 13:14 GMT
#12716
Evasion doesn't make up for 50% less ES in an ES build. Your pool will never be able to reach good levels.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
ZoRoXo
Profile Joined February 2010
Norway268 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-30 18:20:14
December 30 2013 18:18 GMT
#12717
Need some criticism on my hopefully not terrible flameblast build. Going to try it in the upcoming 1week race http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgAACGe31pM6V-HbWb0n-WUtqBg8IcOxkPnokNaDCYLHQYdGcSj6tz60DOvu_grGrpMnuJN6qvJF52M8LRzc3FenCJrgOuGI8cT2f8YelJ2uRZ2mV6xZJ-2ioyepEZasPxpsEmlN4zWS893B81ptcLsZhRcc_o-18oIeJDzZEySqcXluqtsLp1wvbzbpSsjsGElR42r60j8ntNEXLypNdoJk5xUgyAxV1izpg9uApN0N_Ev8xVuvznFnoE4qGNtsFod2KaWtSnTxSn1Sr4UyzSYvnRbzJjyFbSMYjRw=

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+170 to Strength
+120 to Dexterity
+220 to Intelligence
+170 to maximum Mana
+137 to maximum Life
Evasion Rating: 53
+3 Maximum Endurance Charge
+3 Maximum Frenzy Charge
+3 Maximum Power Charge
4% Additional Elemental Resistance per Endurance Charge
4% Physical Damage Reduction per Endurance Charge
5% Attack Speed Increase per Frenzy Charge
5% Cast Speed Increase per Frenzy Charge
50% Critical Strike Chance Increase per Power Charge
80% increased Mana Regeneration Rate
42% increased Spell Damage
72% increased maximum Mana
36% increased Cast Speed
2% of Life Regenerated per Second
10% increased Attack Speed
6% increased Movement Speed
250% increased maximum Life
60% increased Burning Damage
+2% to maximum Fire Resistance
+2% to maximum Cold Resistance
+2% to maximum Lightning Resistance
21% reduced Mana Reserved
38% increased effect of Auras you Cast
Converts all Energy Shield to Mana
24% increased Evasion Rating and Armour
+10% to all Elemental Resistances
3% increased Effect of Buffs on You
81% increased Damage over Time
12% increased Radius of Auras
Converts all Evasion Rating to Armour. Dexterity provides no bonus to Evasion Rating
When Hit, 30% of Damage is taken from Mana before Life
+44% Energy Shield
+34% increased Melee Physical Damage
+240 Accuracy Rating
24% increased Evasion Rating


Basicly, I tried a couple variations including looking on the forums and comparing to some other build that used the troll shavronnes. But in the end I ended up coping a lot from Kripparians dischargers and Ziggyd's EK.

So from Kripps discharger he basicly runs with very few damage nodes due to discharge doing really good damage on it's own. Flame blast is very similar damage (slightly less per charge, but can charge more), He also picked up Vaal Pact to not die to reflect, and as a result only time I saw him do a map over 69 he got carried in some shrine map while standing far back casting fireballs and dual cursing
There's a couple things changed since then, more damage over time nodes and there's purity of fire in the game.
He also didn't pick up Resolute technique and discharge has 8% base critt, while flame blast has 6. So since monkey see monkey do, I didn't either. But I can always skoot over 3 points from some hybrid hp cluster/cast speed cluster to get it if it ends up fucking me over.

So from Ziggys EK I just stole how to get a lot of easy survivability due to artic armor helping vs fire, and the new damage over time nodes are pretty much perfectly placed for a EB MoM build. And you kind of have to be Scion to not waste too many points to get them both.

Going to use discipline, clarity and purity of fire + artic armor.
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udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
December 30 2013 19:23 GMT
#12718
when people talk about fighting second phase Dominus at the stairs, is it just going to the stairs to range Dominus then running into his circle when there's rain?
E-Sports is competitive video gaming with a spectator fan base. Do not take the word "Sports" literally.
zergnewb
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States816 Posts
December 30 2013 19:49 GMT
#12719
The lightning trap boss in Scepter of God rapes me and my friends every single time. It doesn't feel like an accomplishment killing him I just feel like I stabbed myself in the leg for no reason.
Welcome to the Durst-Zone
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-30 20:36:30
December 30 2013 20:01 GMT
#12720
On December 30 2013 15:51 EchelonTee wrote:
I think the burned miscreation summoner is the best MFer.

I personally was running an EK EB MFer; the gear requirement for EK is really low so it's easy to stack on MF, and I find it more fun than playing a summoner. I got to 200 rarity/43 quant pretty easily, and my clear speed on Piety was good.


How do you build that guy? Can you farm Dominus with that character? I'm trying to level a summoner, but its really slow. I've got a 5L Searing Touch-- does linking Spectre + Fire Pen + Burning Damage make the Burned Miscreation do more damage?

I run like 150iir on my Templar (and he's tanky as heck already), plus I get the extra iir+iiq (like 50/30?) when I cull bosses. I'd like to really crank up my MF to the point where when I kill a boss it looks like the Vaults map.

Also because I am a huge lore geek, I want GG to release a sword for Daresso because he's a badass, but it would probably be super GG and cost like 200 ex.
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