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Archers_bane
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1338 Posts
March 22 2013 01:16 GMT
#7821
If you have lightning damage even if it is 1 damage, and you crit, it will always add a shock right?
Starcraft's BW glory days have passed, RIP Jaedong's dominance - 2013...EDIT 2017: WE BACK BOYS
superstartran
Profile Joined March 2010
United States4013 Posts
March 22 2013 01:26 GMT
#7822
On March 22 2013 01:02 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2013 20:03 HolydaKing wrote:
On March 21 2013 19:41 -Archangel- wrote:
On March 21 2013 12:54 Archers_bane wrote:
Hey all, I'm making a CI ranger on hardcore utilizing the Darkscorn bow (25% physical damage taken is converted to chaos damage). I am new to physical damage (since I ran caster in softcore), what is a good accuracy rating to have? Like how much is good?

You would do yourself good to just run elemental damage like everyone else :D but if you insist on this, then get the unique gloves as well that turn part of physical damage to cold :D

Same thing for a melee cleave char i guess... my Duelist who went 1h + Shield did very terrible damage in comparison. I just saw Kripparian run Elemental Cleave in a 3h Race and he already did over 1k dps in the end, despite having really terrible items. Meanwhile my physical Duelist, who is in early Merciless, only does 1,5k dps with cleave although he also went for some damage nodes.

Guess all the auras etc for elemental damage are just way superior. Perhaps the game needs some serious buffs for only-physical builds, as in new support gems or something like this. Maybe the next patch will help, as they said they're gonna add 2 support gems for melee chars.


Some of this seems more like a perceived imbalance more than actual imbalance due to the way armor/resistance mechanics work. If physical and elemental had the same sheet dps then physical (maybe not if you're doing it wrong) would be far superior since it's a lot harder to get high physical damage reduction than elemental. Due to curses like elemental weakness and conductivity though, it isn't that hard to get many mobs into the negative resist area whereas there is no way to reduce armor. The best offensive physical curse is Vulnerability, which doesn't help you much versus high armor targets. That said, I don't think having an offensive physical curse that reduced physical damage reduction by 30% would be balanced either so ^_^

Without hard monster stats it's pretty difficult to theorycraft which is better or worse, but the idea that you can compare physical damage to elemental 1:1 is not true.




Doesn't matter, ele dmg is superior due to the elemental effects like shock/freeze/burn. Phys dmg is great until you realize you also have 0 utility compared to an ele dmg char.
fearpLug
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany153 Posts
March 22 2013 01:43 GMT
#7823
On March 22 2013 10:16 Archers_bane wrote:
If you have lightning damage even if it is 1 damage, and you crit, it will always add a shock right?


in theory yes , but the shock duration might be so low that it actually wont be present
Ryalnos
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1946 Posts
March 22 2013 01:55 GMT
#7824
On March 22 2013 10:43 fearpLug wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2013 10:16 Archers_bane wrote:
If you have lightning damage even if it is 1 damage, and you crit, it will always add a shock right?


in theory yes , but the shock duration might be so low that it actually wont be present


Per Status Ailments:

The duration for these effects are calculated as follows:
Shock: 276ms per 1% max life dealt as lightning

If the duration based on the damage would be less that 300ms, it's ignored entirely. The only exception is Ignite, which will still take place no matter the amount of fire damage done.
cabarkapa
Profile Joined November 2009
United States1015 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-22 08:43:25
March 22 2013 02:38 GMT
#7825
On March 22 2013 07:42 HolydaKing wrote:
Found a circlet ilvl 60 with +1 minion level of gems, +86 life, +48 mana and +13% fire res. Just 75 Energy Shield though. 4 linked already, all of them blue right now.

Should i try selling that or is it worth nothing? Felt like it might be worth something, but then again i never tried to sell something. But whenever i see the trade chat i'm seeing much worse stuff being sold (or they at least try to).

I can take that off your hands for ya!

Wuh oh! Just had my first experience with Chinamen trying to get into my account, at least disabling the accounts seems to work. It's pretty surprising how easy they can get your account info it seems.
Jaehoon - Master strategist
Pwere
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1557 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-22 03:12:24
March 22 2013 03:05 GMT
#7826
Heh, died 4 minutes from the end of the race in western. Apparently, Leap Slam is not the way to go. It does wonders for Crossings, but that method can not really get above ~555k XP. Was on pace for probably 5th duelist, 20th in western, but you the damage is way too spiky. Oh well, good thing I already have my Coral Ring, I think I'm done for a while.
Butcherski
Profile Joined April 2010
Poland446 Posts
March 22 2013 16:13 GMT
#7827
Anybody doing the 1 week ?
"Well Tasteless, i once met a three-toed sloth with good marauder control " - Artosis
Wineandbread
Profile Joined September 2009
United States2065 Posts
March 23 2013 05:16 GMT
#7828
http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/283101

omg those support gemssssssss
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
March 23 2013 08:47 GMT
#7829
Rofl, those supports almost make me want to play my physical melee duelist again by just seeing what they do... awesome :D Also cool to see Power Charges maybe getting more use soon.

Anyway, what can i get for a +14% quality Frenzy gem? Is 2 GCP right or is it less/more?
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14081 Posts
March 23 2013 09:38 GMT
#7830
Powercharge on crit? Why did I buy Volls again just recently? T_T
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
Pwere
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1557 Posts
March 23 2013 14:13 GMT
#7831
Quality Frenzy is worth a shitload. It has one of the best quality bonus in the game, and it's pretty popular.
I can't give you a number, but it should be way higher than 2GCPs.

And these skills want to make me dust off my old mace&shield Templar with Glacial Hammer/Elemental Proliferation. Freezes for everyone ! Then I'll realize that FP is still better
OpticalShot
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada6330 Posts
March 23 2013 14:32 GMT
#7832
dam 14% quality frenzy? *drools*
frenzy is my main skill (phys dmg ranger) and i only use a 7%...
[TLMS] REBOOT
superstartran
Profile Joined March 2010
United States4013 Posts
March 23 2013 16:25 GMT
#7833
My 18% Heavy Strike is about to become real valuable with those support gems ^_^
NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
March 23 2013 17:27 GMT
#7834
Physical damage needs to either be vastly superior in terms of raw DPS or needs a strong secondary effect like the elements have with freeze/shock/ignite.
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. - Orwell
Xinder
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2269 Posts
March 23 2013 20:08 GMT
#7835
Holy shit those melee supports
"Daaayyyy9, King Pussyfoot of NinnyVille"- Day9 while playing Amnesia
ZoRoXo
Profile Joined February 2010
Norway268 Posts
March 23 2013 23:58 GMT
#7836
Just finished piety merciless on hc with my CI frost shadow, 1 day 16 hours spent to get the cheesy victory music. Worth it 100% :D. She turned out to be much easier than I thought (went in with 71 fire 70 lightning 75 cold, 3,5k ES, 2150 dps ice spear), but might have helped that we only had 2 below 70 and both seemed to know what to do.
sprættemætute
niuage
Profile Joined October 2011
United States175 Posts
March 24 2013 02:30 GMT
#7837
Yo. Some of you might have seen the site via reddit or on the forums, but I wanted to let you know about a shop indexer like poe.xyz that I've been building for the past 2 weeks:

http://poexplorer.com

Feedback/bug reports welcome
ibarcraft.com | poexplorer.com
Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
March 24 2013 02:46 GMT
#7838
Just looking for some input from people who have been playing awhile. I just started playing yesterday and made a witch summoner. I completed the normal play through and am at a point where I need to decide where my talent points should be going after I finish out my last summoner passives (6 left then I have them all).
My question is what do you guys think a decent tech path would be to add some dps. I know that ice-crit is a high dmg witch build but could I get the skills I need once I finish the summoner ones. I am thinking between trying that out (going into frost-crit) or doing physical dmg build with power siphon. Another concern of mine is how mana intensive the side path will be because keeping my summons up is costly on mana, so I may have to tech into mana regen + increase aswell. Any input would be appreciated! Here is my current build for reference:
http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgMABAcHYxCXGmwfAiL0KPoqmC0fNsVEBEjnTLNNuVSuVytrF2vbbRlzU30YfdKCx4VgiECPRpAzm6GdrqaspwiqxLiTzLzQ0NP72CTZC-vu7Ir31_qA

And does anyone know how good necromantic aegis is for a minion instability build. I'm not sure if it would be beneficial because I rely on the minions dying for my dps, but maybe some useful stats would work well like increased health or something that would increase damage from instability. Anyone know if there are good end game sheilds that would offer that?

Gah so many questions O_O
Obstikal
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
616 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-24 03:03:00
March 24 2013 02:53 GMT
#7839
On March 24 2013 11:30 niuage wrote:
Yo. Some of you might have seen the site via reddit or on the forums, but I wanted to let you know about a shop indexer like poe.xyz that I've been building for the past 2 weeks:

http://poexplorer.com

Feedback/bug reports welcome


oh man this looks awesome. Hopefully its a little more accurate with the mods and stuff

im trying to look for a belt with an implicit mod of 18+ and suffix of 40+ how would i go about that ?

i got it !

man this this is awesome! a lot better than poe goods so far at least.. I'm already passing it on to ppl i know
Ryalnos
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1946 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-24 03:06:38
March 24 2013 03:06 GMT
#7840
On March 22 2013 12:05 Pwere wrote:
Heh, died 4 minutes from the end of the race in western. Apparently, Leap Slam is not the way to go. It does wonders for Crossings, but that method can not really get above ~555k XP. Was on pace for probably 5th duelist, 20th in western, but you the damage is way too spiky. Oh well, good thing I already have my Coral Ring, I think I'm done for a while.



Season One, Race Event 66: 1 Hour Ancestral Turbo Solo
22 Pwere TheHeroOfCanton Duelist 13 200280

Hmmm....

PS, Blitzstreik isn't somehow Blitzkreig0 is it?
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