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curreh
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia265 Posts
July 04 2011 08:49 GMT
#781
Hey guys I'm looking into getting this for pc when it comes out, and I'm not too sure what to do controller wise, is it that bad to just buy an xbox 360 controller for pc?

I saw they released some new 360 controllers with better d-pads, anybody know if they came to pc as well? If this is a bad idea does anybody know where to get a cheap fighting stick in Australia? Thanks a lot ^_^
SlayerS Hwaiting! : )
Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
July 04 2011 09:15 GMT
#782
Why would it be bad? I have a Madcatz arcade stick designed for 360, but I don't own any consoles The reason people use specifically made fight pads is so that all 6 buttons are on the front, you'll be fine just using an xbox controller if you get used to your own settings though.
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dangots0ul
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States919 Posts
July 04 2011 09:19 GMT
#783
lol gl using an xbox360 controller. thats just asking for fail
i type teamliquid into the url subconsciously... all...the...time...
curreh
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia265 Posts
July 04 2011 09:25 GMT
#784
jeez guys two conflicting opinions helps me out here : P is the 360 controller that bad?

could anybody suggest any good cheap sticks that can go in pc? would be a bonus if they could use both pc and 360, thanks
SlayerS Hwaiting! : )
Kuhva
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom183 Posts
July 04 2011 09:28 GMT
#785
As I have said earlier in the thread I am looking to get a fight stick with AE on pc.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0032ISZL8/ref=s9_simh_gw_p63_d0_i2?pf_rd_m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&pf_rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_r=05Z2CDWRVY9H9C34GGFS&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=467128533&pf_rd_i=468294

looking at getting this, do you think I can get away with it and a WII to PC adaptor?

http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-13-71-6m-49-en-70-3nu3.html
Brotoss Fighting!!!!
Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
July 04 2011 09:30 GMT
#786
Problem with a 360 controller is one, your dpad is very small and thus very prone to screwing up your 8 directions. And you only have 4 buttons on top so you have to use the top 4 buttons for certian normal buttons, which can just be confusing.

It's not impossible, its just different. My suggestion is to get a fightpad (maybe 20-30 bucks, just look for them on ebay) that way you can have all 6 buttons and a decent sized d-pad on your controller. Many of the best players use pads (Vangief, Wolfkrone, Inthul, etc.). So its not impossible, but they all use fightpads not just a 360 controller.

All 360 sticks should be able to be used on PC's, same with PS3 sticks but sometimes there are chipset issues.

Good cheap sticks don't exist, you either get a TE which'll be 100-150 dollars, or you get an SE which'll be 50, and then you can mod Sanwa parts into it and it'll cost you 85ish if you're comfortable opening it up and switching parts out.
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Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
July 04 2011 09:37 GMT
#787
On July 04 2011 18:28 Kuhva wrote:
As I have said earlier in the thread I am looking to get a fight stick with AE on pc.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0032ISZL8/ref=s9_simh_gw_p63_d0_i2?pf_rd_m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&pf_rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_r=05Z2CDWRVY9H9C34GGFS&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=467128533&pf_rd_i=468294

looking at getting this, do you think I can get away with it and a WII to PC adaptor?

http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-13-71-6m-49-en-70-3nu3.html


If thats what tickles your fancy, I say go for it but the TvC stick is an SE, not TE, so once again you'd have to mod the buttons and stick to get real arcade parts, if you're just going for the cheapest route to have a arcade-style stick without authentic arcade buttons, youc an go for the cheap Hori sticks or, an SE stick.
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Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
July 04 2011 09:41 GMT
#788
On that same site though, theres this stick

http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-13-71-1i-49-en-70-3d9n.html

If you really want to just go for a cheap arcade style stick. I'm not sure the size of those buttons or how easy that stick is to mod but if you NEVER plan on upgrading to authentic parts you might as well go the cheap option lol. (I honestly do suggest, and I think many fighting game players, would suggest just saving up for a TE, its really worth it if you plan on playing regularly.)
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Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12235 Posts
July 04 2011 09:47 GMT
#789
Cheap sticks are cheap for a reason. I bought an SE because I wanted to save money, and within 2 weeks one of the buttons worked only sporadically and the stick stopped recognizing one of the directional inputs a majority of the time. I replaced both the buttons and stick with Sanwa parts and it's been fine ever since. Then I just got a TE because it's heavier and has a wider base, fits nicely on my lap.
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exalted
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States3612 Posts
July 04 2011 09:47 GMT
#790
For the people who are just starting out, just get an SE. If you end up really liking the game, then you'll work on getting a TE anyway (and there are occasional sales where you can get good value).

With the choice of 1 TE or 2 SE, I would definitely go with the 2 SEs so you can play with a friend. You need friendly competition to keep your hunger to improve going - playing strictly online sucks ass.
too easy
Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
July 04 2011 09:52 GMT
#791
Meh, I disagree with exalted and agree with Excalibur. If you're just looking to get started play on your keyboard or buy a fightpad (20-30 dollars). The only reason you should buy an SE is if you plan on gauging your interest in fighting games, and if you plan on continuing playing, buying a JLF and OBSF-30 buttons and putting them in, but even then you'll be slightly disappointed since, like Excalibur said, the wider base on a TE makes it fit perfectly on your lap where an SE wouldn't.

I bought an SE played on it for a bit and even without the mechanical problems that Excalibur ran into I felt that a TE would just be a better choice.

Nobody on Shoryuken and probably on here as well, has probably ever bought a TE and said "shit I should have bought an SE and sanwa buttons instead!"

Everyone who buys a TE recognizes its worth it if you plan on playing fighting games for a while, instead of a game you pick up and toss aside forever (if thats the case, just get a pad)
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Kuhva
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom183 Posts
July 04 2011 10:00 GMT
#792
On July 04 2011 18:37 Zlasher wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2011 18:28 Kuhva wrote:
As I have said earlier in the thread I am looking to get a fight stick with AE on pc.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0032ISZL8/ref=s9_simh_gw_p63_d0_i2?pf_rd_m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&pf_rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_r=05Z2CDWRVY9H9C34GGFS&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=467128533&pf_rd_i=468294

looking at getting this, do you think I can get away with it and a WII to PC adaptor?

http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-13-71-6m-49-en-70-3nu3.html


If thats what tickles your fancy, I say go for it but the TvC stick is an SE, not TE, so once again you'd have to mod the buttons and stick to get real arcade parts, if you're just going for the cheapest route to have a arcade-style stick without authentic arcade buttons, youc an go for the cheap Hori sticks or, an SE stick.


Well the problem is, on the internet TE sticks in the UK are costing around £150-£180.00 ($240 - $290.00) atm.

Also other SE/Hori sticks are costing around £59-69.00 ($100 to $115.00)

I have found cheaper but they arn't in stock... gonna hit the high street to see if I can get lucky
Brotoss Fighting!!!!
BlueLobster
Profile Joined May 2010
Singapore205 Posts
July 04 2011 10:02 GMT
#793
is the SF4 PC community dead ? thinking of buying , but afraid there's no one to play with online.
Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-04 10:03:11
July 04 2011 10:02 GMT
#794
Check on ebay, or shoryuken.com's forums in the trading outlet.

On July 04 2011 19:02 BlueLobster wrote:
is the SF4 PC community dead ? thinking of buying , but afraid there's no one to play with online.


Vanilla SF4 is dead yes, the new Arcade Edition thats coming out in the coming days should breathe back some life.
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curreh
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia265 Posts
July 04 2011 10:07 GMT
#795
thanks for all the advice/discussion guys! My mate linked me to this and it looks pretty decent, any opinions?

http://www.ozstick.com.au/prod_desktop.html

Just curious Zlasher, do you mean you can't get a game on ss4 on pc or just the community's not very active anymore?
SlayerS Hwaiting! : )
Kuhva
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom183 Posts
July 04 2011 10:08 GMT
#796
On July 04 2011 19:02 Zlasher wrote:
Check on ebay, or shoryuken.com's forums in the trading outlet.

Show nested quote +
On July 04 2011 19:02 BlueLobster wrote:
is the SF4 PC community dead ? thinking of buying , but afraid there's no one to play with online.


Vanilla SF4 is dead yes, the new Arcade Edition thats coming out in the coming days should breathe back some life.


I had already checked Ebay.co.uk, next to f*ck all on it. But http://shoryuken.com/ had slipped my mind.
Brotoss Fighting!!!!
Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
July 04 2011 10:10 GMT
#797
On SF4 (Vanilla, not Super, not AE) on PC, there are like, ~3 games going at a time at most lol, and the connection will be f'ing TERRIBLE as you'll be facing someone across the world more likely than you'll face someone from a neighboring state/province whatever. Nobody plays Vanilla SF4 when Super SF4 has been out for well over a year now, and Arcade Edition has been out for over a month now.

Once AE comes out on PC tomororw, there will probalby be a ton of lobbies, how long that lasts remains to be seen, but the scene should exist.

Also, that link you posted, 85 dollars is way too expensive in my opinion, for cheap parts. It costs ~35 dollars to buy your own buttons and a stick and replace it so I highly suggest not buying that, even a Madcatz SE, or Hori or any crap you buy that isn't a TE, should be cheaper than 85 and will be MUCH easier to modify later (Madcatz is rated very highly in the community due to the ease of modifying parts, everything is snap in, requires zero soldering wires or using power tools, which is a HUGE bonus).
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Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
July 04 2011 10:13 GMT
#798
Shoryuken is almost only American sellers, since the largest Fighting game community exists in america. So sometimes its hard to get someone to sell sticks overseas due to shipping costs.

If ebay.co.uk doesn't work sometimes there'll be american sellers that'll ship overseas, might cost a bit more

Also, another suggestion do NOT pay extra for an upgraded sanwa stick of button, it'll almost always cost way too much. A Sanwa JLF (stick) should only cost 12-15 bucks and each button is no more than 3 dollars each. so like I said upgrading an SE to a TE should only cost 30-35 bucks tops if you do it yourself (very easy on a madcatz stick, TONS of tutorials on youtube and stuff).
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curreh
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia265 Posts
July 04 2011 10:20 GMT
#799
hmm yeah sounds like getting a madcatz would be worth it... now to try find one in Australia >_< I'm not sure if $85 for a stick is cheap in Australia though, I don't even know how to compare the AUD to the US anymore, it's changed so much since I used to follow it lol

thanks a lot for your help zlasher : )
SlayerS Hwaiting! : )
Kuhva
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom183 Posts
July 04 2011 10:29 GMT
#800
ebay.com is showing similar prices once shipping is factored in... lame.

Gonna troll the highstreet/pawn shops see if I get lucky
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