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Signet
United States1718 Posts
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TemplarCo.
Mexico2870 Posts
On May 05 2011 20:55 TheHova wrote: United have been poor in the Premier League for the majority of the season. Infact nobody in the Premier League has been a stand out performer. They're kinda at the top of the league by default and despite Chelsea going on the worst run in their history under Abramovich, they can still go first this weekend if they beat them. Barcelona however are at their peak and genuinely one of the best teams i've seen in my life time. If not the best. And I saw the Milan side of the early 90's and Ajax 95. I very much doubt United will play 4-4-2 against Barcelona too like the OP suggests. It's not that ManU or Chelsea are performing bad, its just that compared to the Spanish League, Premier is way more competitive, there are 7-9 teams that are fighting for Champions League spots, meanwhile, there are 3-5 teams that can have a shot a the title meanwhile, in Spanish League the title race is between 2 teams, and Champions League is almost always the same 4 so... | ||
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Tyree
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That does not mean auto win for Barcelona but if they play just half way good and take their chances i dont see United winning. | ||
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soytriniman
Trinidad/Tobago10 Posts
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Kralic
Canada2628 Posts
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Signet
United States1718 Posts
On May 05 2011 23:18 Tyree wrote: Last time they met in the finals, United was hell of alot better team + Ronaldo than they are today. Barcelona are almost the exact same team with some adjustments here and there + David Villa. That does not mean auto win for Barcelona but if they play just half way good and take their chances i dont see United winning. Barca had Eto (whose goal turned the game around) and Henry, which imo are better than Villa and Pedro. Biggest improvement for Barca is that their midfield is exactly the same, which means two additional years of playing together. Incredible unity in that group. But I agree that United are not as strong as they were 2 years ago. Ronaldo and Tevez were a big part of that team. Hernandez and Valencia do not make up for that. | ||
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TheHova
United Kingdom2612 Posts
On May 05 2011 23:15 TemplarCo. wrote: It's not that ManU or Chelsea are performing bad, its just that compared to the Spanish League, Premier is way more competitive, there are 7-9 teams that are fighting for Champions League spots, meanwhile, there are 3-5 teams that can have a shot a the title meanwhile, in Spanish League the title race is between 2 teams, and Champions League is almost always the same 4 so... The competition is a lot better than La Liga that is true, but for the top teams very high standards, they have all under performed and any one of them will be kicking themselves if they don't win the league because it was there for the taking this year in all honesty. La Liga can be glorified Scottish Premier League sometimes. With the way their TV ad revenue currently works it's very unfair for the other teams unlike the Premier League so the other teams don't really stand a realistic chance of competing with Madrid and Barca. | ||
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TheHova
United Kingdom2612 Posts
On May 05 2011 23:23 soytriniman wrote: I think that you're starting lineup is missing Park, Nani will come off the bench most likely. ONE UNITED! Nani has been United's best player this year, he will start. I'm guessing they will drop Hernandez and play someone like Park on the other wing. There's no way Fergie will play 4-4-2 against Barcelona. He always plays 4-5-1 in the big games so they don't get outnumbered in midfield. | ||
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Ethelis
United States2397 Posts
On May 05 2011 21:39 Signet wrote: I hope the predicted lineup is wrong. Carrick cannot handle the amount of pressing Barca does and is prone to making costly errors. I would play a 4-4-1-1 with: Van der Sar - Rafael, Vidic, Ferdinand, Evra - Nani, Fletcher, Giggs, Valencia - Rooney, Hernandez; Giggs has proven he can play inside, and Barcelona's mids have more speed/skill than physicality so he'll be okay in there. Park would also be a decent choice. Agreed except i'd switch Nani out for Park. Nani on a good day is prob better but what are the odds. | ||
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TemplarCo.
Mexico2870 Posts
On May 06 2011 02:11 TheHova wrote: The competition is a lot better than La Liga that is true, but for the top teams very high standards, they have all under performed and any one of them will be kicking themselves if they don't win the league because it was there for the taking this year in all honesty. La Liga can be glorified Scottish Premier League sometimes. With the way their TV ad revenue currently works it's very unfair for the other teams unlike the Premier League so the other teams don't really stand a realistic chance of competing with Madrid and Barca. TheHova, you mean ManU or Barça, that has underachieved? Cause both of them have an empty space in their trophy case, (FA Cup and Copa del Rey), Im kinda confused... | ||
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Airship
United States465 Posts
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snow2.0
Germany2073 Posts
English team, english turf. I'm not expecting the good game. As the commentators said yesterday: Schalkes Trainer once played for an english team. On his first appearance he scored 3 broken ribs, even hurting his lung in the process. Welcome to England. | ||
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Kevan
Sweden2303 Posts
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Copymizer
Denmark2107 Posts
 ! Btw include this video in the OP as Hype stuff ^^ | ||
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slytown
Korea (South)1411 Posts
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disciple
9070 Posts
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BabyGiraldo
United States135 Posts
Coach: Alex Ferguson I would say a more probable line up is O'Shae for Rafael as Rafael isn't experienced in games like this and his hard challenges have led to problems in the past in big games ( Red card vs Bayern Munich last year). Also I would be very surprised not to see Ji Sung Park starting or subbed in as Ferguson usually plays him in big games. I would also say that Valencia will start, but over who its hard to say, Nani hasn't scored in a while but other than that he hasn't been in poor form and Giggs is still brilliant. I don't think Carrick will start though as he doesn't exactly have tons of defensive prowess and is often kind of quiet in the midfield, and against a team like barca it's not good to let them have any more control in the midfield than they already will. Depending on how Ferguson wants to play against barcelona Scholes might do good as a center mid because hes so scrappy and I don't think Xavi or Iniesta could really handle him, but its probably more likely that Park will start in the center mid instead with Fletcher as he's such a hard worker.. Also could see ferguson dropping chicharito out and playing a 4-5-1 but I honestly hope he plays a 4-4-2 because rooney has had a lot of trouble in the past being a lone striker and hernandez and rooney have become one of the best offensive pairs in the game. Either way I hope it will be a more enjoyable match than the 2009 Champions League Final. | ||
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Enchanted
United States1609 Posts
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Steel
Japan2283 Posts
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yesitsrob
United Kingdom43 Posts
I would really expect a midfield of Giggs, Carrick, Rooney with Valencia and Park on the wings. Rooney playing the same roll he did vs Chelsea in the game at old trafford. I would like to see Rafael start as opposed to O'Shea as I feel Dani Alves is not super hot defensively and it's one of very few things about Barcelona that we could exploit. I don't think he will play Nani from the start as he simply is not good enough defensively against a team that can pass it around for 80% of the game. If we want any chance of winning when we do get the ball we will have to be incredibly productive with it and do a good job at keeping it ourselves and I'm even worried that even if Barcelona do have an off-day and we happen to play pretty decent they'll just cheat their asses off and get away with it. I hope that ugly side of them with all the play acting doesn't show itself. | ||
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