Just because you made to a final in a tourney doesn't mean you deserve to be there.
That's just flat out wrong in so many ways. First of all, you can only beat what is put in front of you. Second of all, poor-form Chelsea? Is this the same Chelsea beat us in the league? The same Chelsea that finished second overall? As for Schalke, even though they were a bit of a joke against us, you conveniently miss out the part were they knocked-out Inter Milan. You know, Inter Milan, the holders of the Champion's League going into that game? The team who knocked out Barcelona last year? Don't be silly. You have no argument.
You can't call ManU deserving because they won the EPL either. They kindly pronounced this season as the most unexpected/crazy/unpredictable season ever but thats only because so many teams underperformed and straight up flopped.
Actually, it's because so many of the "lesser" teams played so well this term, not just because the "better" teams underperformed. The number of points needed to survive this season ended up being 40, 10 points more than the season before. That means that the lower teams needed 3 more wins this season than they did last season. Why? Because they were all playing so much better. You can't always put the "better" teams losing down to them playing badly, sometimes the "lesser" teams just happen to be playing really well.
I guess someone who watches La Liga wouldn't understand this, though, since in La Liga it is a disaster for Barcelona or Real Madrid to even draw a game, yet alone lose one. La Liga is a massive joke, just like the Scottish league. That is a fact.
This time around its a much better achievement to win La Liga over Real Madrid
You don't win a league over a single team, you win a league over all the teams. If your only realistic competitor every season is a single team, then the league is broken. It's useless. La Liga is a joke, barely deserves a single CL place, yet alone the several it gets.
I think you're quite wrong in what you are saying about La Liga.
La Liga is quite competitive in fact. Just a single and simple comparison. Here, the number of points needed to survive this season ended up being 44, 7 more that the previous season. So, at least, "lesser" teams performed really well this season and lower positions were disputed until the very end.
Yeah, sometimes it seems that there are like two leagues (Barça - RM and the rest) but it is not as easy as you think. The key is that Barça has some of the best players in the world and RM has unlimited economical resources to get the best players, so yeah they are expected to win all their matches and try to win La Liga. However, there are other good teams that can make Barça and RM lose a game and it wouldn't be a surprise if that happened (Villareal or Valencia).
La Liga is a joke, barely deserves a single CL place, yet alone the several it gets. So, you think that a league with teams like Barça or RM does not deserve even a single place in CL? With Barça being the best team in Europe? Or RM with players like Casillas, CR or Kaka? You must be joking, aren't you?
I would remind you that ManU had quite tough matches against Valencia in the CL (0-1 in Valencia (Valencia deserved to win this) / 1-1 in Manchester). Maybe, ManU didn't play as well as it usually does or didn't have luck but saying that La Liga is a joke and it does not deserve its CL places is not true and quite ignorant IMO. I know that Valencia is not as good as ManU but even teams like this deserve to have a chance in the CL (see Schalke '04 or Oporto in 2004 winning the CL).
Just because you made to a final in a tourney doesn't mean you deserve to be there.
That's just flat out wrong in so many ways. First of all, you can only beat what is put in front of you. Second of all, poor-form Chelsea? Is this the same Chelsea beat us in the league? The same Chelsea that finished second overall? As for Schalke, even though they were a bit of a joke against us, you conveniently miss out the part were they knocked-out Inter Milan. You know, Inter Milan, the holders of the Champion's League going into that game? The team who knocked out Barcelona last year? Don't be silly. You have no argument.
You can't call ManU deserving because they won the EPL either. They kindly pronounced this season as the most unexpected/crazy/unpredictable season ever but thats only because so many teams underperformed and straight up flopped.
Actually, it's because so many of the "lesser" teams played so well this term, not just because the "better" teams underperformed. The number of points needed to survive this season ended up being 40, 10 points more than the season before. That means that the lower teams needed 3 more wins this season than they did last season. Why? Because they were all playing so much better. You can't always put the "better" teams losing down to them playing badly, sometimes the "lesser" teams just happen to be playing really well.
I guess someone who watches La Liga wouldn't understand this, though, since in La Liga it is a disaster for Barcelona or Real Madrid to even draw a game, yet alone lose one. La Liga is a massive joke, just like the Scottish league. That is a fact.
This time around its a much better achievement to win La Liga over Real Madrid
You don't win a league over a single team, you win a league over all the teams. If your only realistic competitor every season is a single team, then the league is broken. It's useless. La Liga is a joke, barely deserves a single CL place, yet alone the several it gets.
We get it, you are upset. But saying La Liga does not deserve even a spot in CL when current Premier League champion was outclassed by La Liga champion, it's just not even funny.
Just because you made to a final in a tourney doesn't mean you deserve to be there.
That's just flat out wrong in so many ways. First of all, you can only beat what is put in front of you. Second of all, poor-form Chelsea? Is this the same Chelsea beat us in the league? The same Chelsea that finished second overall? As for Schalke, even though they were a bit of a joke against us, you conveniently miss out the part were they knocked-out Inter Milan. You know, Inter Milan, the holders of the Champion's League going into that game? The team who knocked out Barcelona last year? Don't be silly. You have no argument.
You can't call ManU deserving because they won the EPL either. They kindly pronounced this season as the most unexpected/crazy/unpredictable season ever but thats only because so many teams underperformed and straight up flopped.
Actually, it's because so many of the "lesser" teams played so well this term, not just because the "better" teams underperformed. The number of points needed to survive this season ended up being 40, 10 points more than the season before. That means that the lower teams needed 3 more wins this season than they did last season. Why? Because they were all playing so much better. You can't always put the "better" teams losing down to them playing badly, sometimes the "lesser" teams just happen to be playing really well.
I guess someone who watches La Liga wouldn't understand this, though, since in La Liga it is a disaster for Barcelona or Real Madrid to even draw a game, yet alone lose one. La Liga is a massive joke, just like the Scottish league. That is a fact.
EDIT:
This time around its a much better achievement to win La Liga over Real Madrid
You don't win a league over a single team, you win a league over all the teams. If your only realistic competitor every season is a single team, then the league is broken. It's useless. La Liga is a joke, barely deserves a single CL place, yet alone the several it gets.
We get it, you are upset. But saying La Liga does not deserve even a spot in CL when current Premier League champion was outclassed by La Liga champion, it's just not even funny.
Barca is the better team, the EPL is still the better league. Only the top 2 teams in La Liga would end in the top 10 in the EPL.
Uhhh I'm English and I don't agree with cLutZ at all. Barcelona just trashed the top premier league team and Madrid made Tottenham look very poor.
Yes La Liga doesn't have quite the same strength in depth but Barce and Real are just so much better it's hard to say. If Barce and Real were in the Premier League they'd finish 1st and 2nd in my opinion, they would make our league look poor. Maybe that's just what's happening in Spain.
Hey, HEY. Madrid didn't make Tottenham look poor, we went down to 10 men in the first 15 minutes. You can't do that against RM and expect to stay in the game.
EDIT: This is a silly argument anyway, watch whatever league you like. In my humble opinion the Premier League is more exciting generally, there are more storylines, better depth. And yes Barca on their current form would tear it up, RM maybe less so - they'd be a top 4 side though.
On May 30 2011 05:58 Klive5ive wrote: Uhhh I'm English and I don't agree with cLutZ at all. Barcelona just trashed the top premier league team and Madrid made Tottenham look very poor.
Yes La Liga doesn't have quite the same strength in depth but Barce and Real are just so much better it's hard to say. If Barce and Real were in the Premier League they'd finish 1st and 2nd in my opinion, they would make our league look poor. Maybe that's just what's happening in Spain.
I said 2 teams, then you cited 2 teams.
No one can deny that La Liga is incredibly top heavy, its like College Football. Very few teas have an actual shot at the title or even getting the La Liga champions league bids.
Just because you made to a final in a tourney doesn't mean you deserve to be there.
That's just flat out wrong in so many ways. First of all, you can only beat what is put in front of you. Second of all, poor-form Chelsea? Is this the same Chelsea beat us in the league? The same Chelsea that finished second overall? As for Schalke, even though they were a bit of a joke against us, you conveniently miss out the part were they knocked-out Inter Milan. You know, Inter Milan, the holders of the Champion's League going into that game? The team who knocked out Barcelona last year? Don't be silly. You have no argument.
You can't call ManU deserving because they won the EPL either. They kindly pronounced this season as the most unexpected/crazy/unpredictable season ever but thats only because so many teams underperformed and straight up flopped.
Actually, it's because so many of the "lesser" teams played so well this term, not just because the "better" teams underperformed. The number of points needed to survive this season ended up being 40, 10 points more than the season before. That means that the lower teams needed 3 more wins this season than they did last season. Why? Because they were all playing so much better. You can't always put the "better" teams losing down to them playing badly, sometimes the "lesser" teams just happen to be playing really well.
I guess someone who watches La Liga wouldn't understand this, though, since in La Liga it is a disaster for Barcelona or Real Madrid to even draw a game, yet alone lose one. La Liga is a massive joke, just like the Scottish league. That is a fact.
EDIT:
This time around its a much better achievement to win La Liga over Real Madrid
You don't win a league over a single team, you win a league over all the teams. If your only realistic competitor every season is a single team, then the league is broken. It's useless. La Liga is a joke, barely deserves a single CL place, yet alone the several it gets.
We get it, you are upset. But saying La Liga does not deserve even a spot in CL when current Premier League champion was outclassed by La Liga champion, it's just not even funny.
Barca is the better team, the EPL is still the better league. Only the top 2 teams in La Liga would end in the top 10 in the EPL.
Just because you made to a final in a tourney doesn't mean you deserve to be there.
That's just flat out wrong in so many ways. First of all, you can only beat what is put in front of you. Second of all, poor-form Chelsea? Is this the same Chelsea beat us in the league? The same Chelsea that finished second overall? As for Schalke, even though they were a bit of a joke against us, you conveniently miss out the part were they knocked-out Inter Milan. You know, Inter Milan, the holders of the Champion's League going into that game? The team who knocked out Barcelona last year? Don't be silly. You have no argument.
You can't call ManU deserving because they won the EPL either. They kindly pronounced this season as the most unexpected/crazy/unpredictable season ever but thats only because so many teams underperformed and straight up flopped.
Actually, it's because so many of the "lesser" teams played so well this term, not just because the "better" teams underperformed. The number of points needed to survive this season ended up being 40, 10 points more than the season before. That means that the lower teams needed 3 more wins this season than they did last season. Why? Because they were all playing so much better. You can't always put the "better" teams losing down to them playing badly, sometimes the "lesser" teams just happen to be playing really well.
I guess someone who watches La Liga wouldn't understand this, though, since in La Liga it is a disaster for Barcelona or Real Madrid to even draw a game, yet alone lose one. La Liga is a massive joke, just like the Scottish league. That is a fact.
EDIT:
This time around its a much better achievement to win La Liga over Real Madrid
You don't win a league over a single team, you win a league over all the teams. If your only realistic competitor every season is a single team, then the league is broken. It's useless. La Liga is a joke, barely deserves a single CL place, yet alone the several it gets.
We get it, you are upset. But saying La Liga does not deserve even a spot in CL when current Premier League champion was outclassed by La Liga champion, it's just not even funny.
Barca is the better team, the EPL is still the better league. Only the top 2 teams in La Liga would end in the top 10 in the EPL.
Is he serious or just a dissapointed Man.U troll?
Nah, a Madrid fan actually. Zidane and Ozil are my favorite players of the last decade.
I guess someone who watches La Liga wouldn't understand this, though, since in La Liga it is a disaster for Barcelona or Real Madrid to even draw a game, yet alone lose one. La Liga is a massive joke, just like the Scottish league. That is a fact.
Just because you made to a final in a tourney doesn't mean you deserve to be there.
That's just flat out wrong in so many ways. First of all, you can only beat what is put in front of you. Second of all, poor-form Chelsea? Is this the same Chelsea beat us in the league? The same Chelsea that finished second overall? As for Schalke, even though they were a bit of a joke against us, you conveniently miss out the part were they knocked-out Inter Milan. You know, Inter Milan, the holders of the Champion's League going into that game? The team who knocked out Barcelona last year? Don't be silly. You have no argument.
You can't call ManU deserving because they won the EPL either. They kindly pronounced this season as the most unexpected/crazy/unpredictable season ever but thats only because so many teams underperformed and straight up flopped.
Actually, it's because so many of the "lesser" teams played so well this term, not just because the "better" teams underperformed. The number of points needed to survive this season ended up being 40, 10 points more than the season before. That means that the lower teams needed 3 more wins this season than they did last season. Why? Because they were all playing so much better. You can't always put the "better" teams losing down to them playing badly, sometimes the "lesser" teams just happen to be playing really well.
I guess someone who watches La Liga wouldn't understand this, though, since in La Liga it is a disaster for Barcelona or Real Madrid to even draw a game, yet alone lose one. La Liga is a massive joke, just like the Scottish league. That is a fact.
EDIT:
This time around its a much better achievement to win La Liga over Real Madrid
You don't win a league over a single team, you win a league over all the teams. If your only realistic competitor every season is a single team, then the league is broken. It's useless. La Liga is a joke, barely deserves a single CL place, yet alone the several it gets.
We get it, you are upset. But saying La Liga does not deserve even a spot in CL when current Premier League champion was outclassed by La Liga champion, it's just not even funny.
Barca is the better team, the EPL is still the better league. Only the top 2 teams in La Liga would end in the top 10 in the EPL.
I really doubt that. I reckon the top 4-5 teams would finish in the top 10. Valencia and Villareal would trump teams like Fulham, Sunderland and Villa.
If i wanted to dig deep enough I could make a 10 minute video about every single play in American football detailing every reason every player does what he does, which in turn has a direct effect on the outcome of the play. They are two VERY different games, not sure why you are trying to cast them in the same light.
What is this nonsensical bias towards the EPL? The EPL is the best in the world, why? Is it because of well structured youth systems producing top level football for the best teams in England? Is it fuck, its foreign money and foreign players that make the EPL the best in the world. Do none of you feel more inspired by watching local boys (either born or grew up in catalonia) plus Abi, Alves and Villa torch Man Utd..the best in the 'amazing' EPL? Wouldn't you rather see English teams take the time to change the way we approach the game, abandon the 'smash it up to the big lad' styles and home grow our way to stylish success like Barca have achieved? Then I would be proud of our 'English' Prem League.
On May 31 2011 09:48 iLuminar wrote: What is this nonsensical bias towards the EPL? The EPL is the best in the world, why? Is it because of well structured youth systems producing top level football for the best teams in England? Is it fuck, its foreign money and foreign players that make the EPL the best in the world. Do none of you feel more inspired by watching local boys (either born or grew up in catalonia) plus Abi, Alves and Villa torch Man Utd..the best in the 'amazing' EPL? Wouldn't you rather see English teams take the time to change the way we approach the game, abandon the 'smash it up to the big lad' styles and home grow our way to stylish success like Barca have achieved? Then I would be proud of our 'English' Prem League.
I dont get why some people say Man Utd doesnt deserve to be in the finals. Man Utd reached 3 of the last 4 champions league finals, won 4 of the last 5 epls, they ARE the best team in Europe 2nd only to barca and maybe Madrid. It's no shame really losing to a quality squad like barca, even real Madrid got thumped 5-0. So like it or not, Man Utd can only get stronger from now, and I look forward to new signings from Alex ferguson in the near future.
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