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Gummy
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2180 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-23 02:08:06
November 23 2010 02:00 GMT
#461
Ok. I just officially quit. I might start again on a more populous server. Or when big bang comes out. Iono.
I'll be on Galicia when I get bored though.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ There are three kinds of people in the world: those who can count and those who can't.
BrTarolg
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United Kingdom3574 Posts
November 23 2010 03:22 GMT
#462
Omg gummy

Give me your stuff at least, to the GUILD MASTER and ill hold onto it for you
Butigroove
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Seychelles2061 Posts
November 23 2010 03:50 GMT
#463
start when big bang comes out!

im going bm instead of mm i decided
beach beers buds beezies b-b-b-baaanelings
Gummy
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2180 Posts
November 23 2010 05:54 GMT
#464
On November 23 2010 12:22 BrTarolg wrote:
Omg gummy

Give me your stuff at least, to the GUILD MASTER and ill hold onto it for you

I already gave my stuff to randos in the guild. Just ask around for it and it'll show up in your possession.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ There are three kinds of people in the world: those who can count and those who can't.
Kamille
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Monaco1035 Posts
November 23 2010 07:47 GMT
#465
Gummy is not quitting. I refuse to believe it and his stuff will not be given out randomly.
Priphea
.Aar
Profile Joined September 2010
2177 Posts
November 23 2010 07:58 GMT
#466
I should probably be switched to "semi-active," otherwise people will have some weird ideas about our standards for being active..

And lol@the bandit hate. They're only weak if you're poor, and they're only going to get stronger with the incoming patches.
now run into the setting sun, and suffer, but don't mess up your hair.
Demoninja
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States1190 Posts
November 23 2010 08:01 GMT
#467
Seriously I'd switch to a Bandit if I didn't already hit 9x on my db.
Gummy
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2180 Posts
November 23 2010 08:20 GMT
#468
On November 23 2010 16:47 Kamille wrote:
Gummy is not quitting. I refuse to believe it and his stuff will not be given out randomly.

I'm quitting. You have my dep star and claws, naonao and blader split the rest of my stuff: 40 witch stews, 8atk wg, some rare weps, and like 25mil cash.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ There are three kinds of people in the world: those who can count and those who can't.
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
November 23 2010 08:52 GMT
#469
I have a 4x Cleric on Galicia, but I forgot my birthday info and etc. But I can still login though, just cant edit stuff on my account.
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
Terranlisk
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Singapore1404 Posts
November 23 2010 09:36 GMT
#470
uh so what do we do when MS is down?
aka myheronoob
Butigroove
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Seychelles2061 Posts
November 23 2010 09:42 GMT
#471
On November 23 2010 18:36 MyHeroNoob wrote:
uh so what do we do when MS is down?

Watch GSL duh
beach beers buds beezies b-b-b-baaanelings
Kiante
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7069 Posts
November 23 2010 11:13 GMT
#472
yeah switch me to semi active as well i was going to hop on tonight but its down D:
Writer
XinRan
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States530 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-23 13:28:29
November 23 2010 13:00 GMT
#473
The list has not been updated for ages lol. Gummy, do you have any hunter equips?
edit: Do you guys think getting a pet is a good investment?
edit2: Does anyone have any extra zombie rings they'd be willing to sell/give me?
"To be fair, Kal played like absolute garbage. His noted inconsistency and bad record versus Jaedong high fived into a cacophony of suck." - TwoToneTerran
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
November 23 2010 19:04 GMT
#474
Alrighty! Time to make an account.
Gummy
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2180 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-23 19:45:33
November 23 2010 19:39 GMT
#475
Demethos sucks, unless you enjoy solo-grinding your heart out until 100+, with a brief respite of cpq from 35-50. I propose for Big Bang, those who would like to start a new badass character might want to transfer to Galicia. I can commit 300 mil funding for the guild if any of you want to get started there.

I'm not a fan of fracturing the community, especially when so many awesome people are on Demethos, but seriously... the server is dead. There is no economy, there are not enough people for pqs or any group content, there are very very few good weapons, and not enough scrolls on the server to make a good one for yourself. As it is, you guys will be relying on zhaoxiang008 for all your money for the foreseeable future, which will severely limit your ability to enjoy the game, since only 2-3 people in the guild will be bankrolling everybody FOREVER. Since there is no economy, the money you're getting, thus far, is just being burned and you guys won't be getting any self-sustaining sources of income from playing the game for a very very long time.

Also, if you guys are planning on doing a massive guild migration anytime soon, what you could do is a guild liquidation into pure mesos. Then buy like 100 gfas. Then mts that shit over to the new server.

Yeah, you guys will lose a crap ton of xp and feel bad for the sunk costs of the 4x, but that's like 1 hour of surveys for all the 2x cards anybody has used so far (or like $6 -> 100m -> 10atk no vh wg -> 10.5k nx via mts).
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ There are three kinds of people in the world: those who can count and those who can't.
Demoninja
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States1190 Posts
November 23 2010 21:35 GMT
#476
I'd rather pay the 25 or whatever it is to transfer my char over. If we do do this I'll probably stay on Demethos for a while and when I have a couple of spare bucks transfer my character. It'll be worth it in the long run in my opinion so I don't have to train another char back up to 9x unless it really does take like a week on 1x.
l10f *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3241 Posts
November 23 2010 21:36 GMT
#477
Tbh, I wouldn't play if there were no TL people to play with, even if there were tons of other people. I haven't enjoyed this game as much as I do now in this "dead" server with TL people. If you want to move to a new server that's perfectly fine, but I hope people don't transfer over and split the already small community just because one person wants to switch because playing with TL members isn't good enough for him.
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XinRan
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States530 Posts
November 23 2010 21:59 GMT
#478
On November 24 2010 04:39 Gummy wrote:
Demethos sucks, unless you enjoy solo-grinding your heart out until 100+, with a brief respite of cpq from 35-50. I propose for Big Bang, those who would like to start a new badass character might want to transfer to Galicia. I can commit 300 mil funding for the guild if any of you want to get started there.

I'm not a fan of fracturing the community, especially when so many awesome people are on Demethos, but seriously... the server is dead. There is no economy, there are not enough people for pqs or any group content, there are very very few good weapons, and not enough scrolls on the server to make a good one for yourself. As it is, you guys will be relying on zhaoxiang008 for all your money for the foreseeable future, which will severely limit your ability to enjoy the game, since only 2-3 people in the guild will be bankrolling everybody FOREVER. Since there is no economy, the money you're getting, thus far, is just being burned and you guys won't be getting any self-sustaining sources of income from playing the game for a very very long time.

Also, if you guys are planning on doing a massive guild migration anytime soon, what you could do is a guild liquidation into pure mesos. Then buy like 100 gfas. Then mts that shit over to the new server.

Yeah, you guys will lose a crap ton of xp and feel bad for the sunk costs of the 4x, but that's like 1 hour of surveys for all the 2x cards anybody has used so far (or like $6 -> 100m -> 10atk no vh wg -> 10.5k nx via mts).

What do you mean there are no sources of income? Even though you say the server is dead, Zavihs is making a killing from merching. Sources of income outside of merching are the same on all servers. How does a more populated server help with money? The only good point you make is that good gear is rare in Demethos and parties are harder to find. I think these problems can be solved by finding and scrolling weapons ourselves and pqing amongst ourselves.
"To be fair, Kal played like absolute garbage. His noted inconsistency and bad record versus Jaedong high fived into a cacophony of suck." - TwoToneTerran
Gummy
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2180 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-23 22:18:24
November 23 2010 22:14 GMT
#479
On November 24 2010 06:59 XinRan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2010 04:39 Gummy wrote:
Demethos sucks, unless you enjoy solo-grinding your heart out until 100+, with a brief respite of cpq from 35-50. I propose for Big Bang, those who would like to start a new badass character might want to transfer to Galicia. I can commit 300 mil funding for the guild if any of you want to get started there.

I'm not a fan of fracturing the community, especially when so many awesome people are on Demethos, but seriously... the server is dead. There is no economy, there are not enough people for pqs or any group content, there are very very few good weapons, and not enough scrolls on the server to make a good one for yourself. As it is, you guys will be relying on zhaoxiang008 for all your money for the foreseeable future, which will severely limit your ability to enjoy the game, since only 2-3 people in the guild will be bankrolling everybody FOREVER. Since there is no economy, the money you're getting, thus far, is just being burned and you guys won't be getting any self-sustaining sources of income from playing the game for a very very long time.

Also, if you guys are planning on doing a massive guild migration anytime soon, what you could do is a guild liquidation into pure mesos. Then buy like 100 gfas. Then mts that shit over to the new server.

Yeah, you guys will lose a crap ton of xp and feel bad for the sunk costs of the 4x, but that's like 1 hour of surveys for all the 2x cards anybody has used so far (or like $6 -> 100m -> 10atk no vh wg -> 10.5k nx via mts).

What do you mean there are no sources of income? Even though you say the server is dead, Zavihs is making a killing from merching. Sources of income outside of merching are the same on all servers. How does a more populated server help with money? The only good point you make is that good gear is rare in Demethos and parties are harder to find. I think these problems can be solved by finding and scrolling weapons ourselves and pqing amongst ourselves.


Assume you can take a 20% spread on every transaction. Assume you can make 10 transactions per hour on Galicia averaging 10 mil each. Yay! You just made 20 mil in an hour. That's a solid source of income. Now imagine you're on Demethos. Congrats if you can make 1 transaction.

The amount of money you can make off of exploiting spreads in markets is proportional(though in a decreasing fashion) to the number of transactions being made.

This is not to say that you can't successfully scam noobs and sell for a profit, but this is not sustainable and terrible for our reputation as a guild. We should not be taking advantage of a 9-year-old whose Asian parents let her on for an hour after getting an A on her math test.

That's what I mean that there are no sources of income.

Merching is NOT viable unless you set up a shop, and the overhead of a shop permit makes it inherently difficult, considering the amount of nx you have to spend on a permit can get you 15 mil worth of items through mts instead.

Regarding L10F's point that having a single community, even on a crappy server, is better than having a fractured community on a decent server... This view is completely valid and I realize that what has happened here is a shitty nash equilibrium.

That being said, I'm trying to increase the payoffs for people to move from the shitty nash equilibrium to the better nash equilibrium by offering to bankroll people who join the other server. Yes, L10F, I will bankroll you too! (up to 50 mil per person for the first week to get you guys started.)

If at least 10 people are willing to join me, I am offering to fund a new guild in Galicia (or any of the other servers you guys might want.)
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ There are three kinds of people in the world: those who can count and those who can't.
l10f *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3241 Posts
November 23 2010 22:24 GMT
#480
On November 24 2010 07:14 Gummy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2010 06:59 XinRan wrote:
On November 24 2010 04:39 Gummy wrote:
Demethos sucks, unless you enjoy solo-grinding your heart out until 100+, with a brief respite of cpq from 35-50. I propose for Big Bang, those who would like to start a new badass character might want to transfer to Galicia. I can commit 300 mil funding for the guild if any of you want to get started there.

I'm not a fan of fracturing the community, especially when so many awesome people are on Demethos, but seriously... the server is dead. There is no economy, there are not enough people for pqs or any group content, there are very very few good weapons, and not enough scrolls on the server to make a good one for yourself. As it is, you guys will be relying on zhaoxiang008 for all your money for the foreseeable future, which will severely limit your ability to enjoy the game, since only 2-3 people in the guild will be bankrolling everybody FOREVER. Since there is no economy, the money you're getting, thus far, is just being burned and you guys won't be getting any self-sustaining sources of income from playing the game for a very very long time.

Also, if you guys are planning on doing a massive guild migration anytime soon, what you could do is a guild liquidation into pure mesos. Then buy like 100 gfas. Then mts that shit over to the new server.

Yeah, you guys will lose a crap ton of xp and feel bad for the sunk costs of the 4x, but that's like 1 hour of surveys for all the 2x cards anybody has used so far (or like $6 -> 100m -> 10atk no vh wg -> 10.5k nx via mts).

What do you mean there are no sources of income? Even though you say the server is dead, Zavihs is making a killing from merching. Sources of income outside of merching are the same on all servers. How does a more populated server help with money? The only good point you make is that good gear is rare in Demethos and parties are harder to find. I think these problems can be solved by finding and scrolling weapons ourselves and pqing amongst ourselves.


Assume you can take a 20% spread on every transaction. Assume you can make 10 transactions per hour on Galicia averaging 10 mil each. Yay! You just made 20 mil in an hour. That's a solid source of income. Now imagine you're on Demethos. Congrats if you can make 1 transaction.

The amount of money you can make off of exploiting spreads in markets is proportional(though in a decreasing fashion) to the number of transactions being made.

This is not to say that you can't successfully scam noobs and sell for a profit, but this is not sustainable and terrible for our reputation as a guild. We should not be taking advantage of a 9-year-old whose Asian parents let her on for an hour after getting an A on her math test.

That's what I mean that there are no sources of income.

Merching is NOT viable unless you set up a shop, and the overhead of a shop permit makes it inherently difficult, considering the amount of nx you have to spend on a permit can get you 15 mil worth of items through mts instead.

Regarding L10F's point that having a single community, even on a crappy server, is better than having a fractured community on a decent server... This view is completely valid and I realize that what has happened here is a shitty nash equilibrium.

That being said, I'm trying to increase the payoffs for people to move from the shitty nash equilibrium to the better nash equilibrium by offering to bankroll people who join the other server. Yes, L10F, I will bankroll you too! (up to 50 mil per person for the first week to get you guys started.)

If at least 10 people are willing to join me, I am offering to fund a new guild in Galicia (or any of the other servers you guys might want.)


50m is nowhere near worth the 5 days I spent to get to 72 in this server, and it's not worth splitting the small community.
Writer
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