• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 04:27
CET 10:27
KST 18:27
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros9[ASL20] Finals Preview: Arrival13TL.net Map Contest #21: Voting10[ASL20] Ro4 Preview: Descent11Team TLMC #5: Winners Announced!3
Community News
Weekly Cups (Oct 20-26): MaxPax, Clem, Creator win62025 RSL Offline Finals Dates + Ticket Sales!10BSL21 Open Qualifiers Week & CONFIRM PARTICIPATION3Crank Gathers Season 2: SC II Pro Teams12Merivale 8 Open - LAN - Stellar Fest5
StarCraft 2
General
RotterdaM "Serral is the GOAT, and it's not close" Weekly Cups (Oct 20-26): MaxPax, Clem, Creator win Weekly Cups (Oct 13-19): Clem Goes for Four DreamHack Open 2013 revealed Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros
Tourneys
SC4ALL $6,000 Open LAN in Philadelphia Crank Gathers Season 2: SC II Pro Teams Merivale 8 Open - LAN - Stellar Fest Kirktown Chat Brawl #9 $50 8:30PM EST 2025 RSL Offline Finals Dates + Ticket Sales!
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 498 Wheel of Misfortune|Cradle of Death Mutation # 497 Battle Haredened Mutation # 496 Endless Infection Mutation # 495 Rest In Peace
Brood War
General
Ladder Map Matchup Stats Map pack for 3v3/4v4/FFA games BW General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ What's going on with b.net?
Tourneys
BSL21 Open Qualifiers Week & CONFIRM PARTICIPATION [ASL20] Grand Finals Small VOD Thread 2.0 The Casual Games of the Week Thread
Strategy
Current Meta PvZ map balance How to stay on top of macro? Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2
Other Games
General Games
General RTS Discussion Thread Path of Exile Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread The Perfect Game
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread SPIRED by.ASL Mafia {211640}
Community
General
Dating: How's your luck? US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! Korean Music Discussion Series you have seen recently...
Sports
MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion 2024 - 2026 Football Thread NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
The Big Reveal
Peanutsc
Challenge: Maths isn't all…
Hildegard
Career Paths and Skills for …
TrAiDoS
Reality "theory" prov…
perfectspheres
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1681 users

Magic: The Gathering - Page 361

Forum Index > General Games
Post a Reply
Prev 1 359 360 361 362 363 665 Next
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-25 03:45:20
April 25 2013 03:44 GMT
#7201
Yes, basically, so you're stuck not doing anything. It's a line open to them if they need to get Jace activations.

The biggest problem with Aetherling is that he's 6 cmc, effectively 7, in the match up where the real fun can start at 5. Makes it hard to justify playing him with or without Caverns. Where as you can play Obzedat and they realistically have 1 out with 0 further investment from you. Either line can mean you get tempoed except one costs you mana and the other doesn't.

Edit:

Still a fine card against Esper, but not as great as people think. Morphling he's not (given power level considerations).
Get it by your hands...
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-25 20:05:05
April 25 2013 20:00 GMT
#7202
Damn so I've done a lot with the list and I'm in love. Control matchup is pretty bad, probably 40/60, but it stomps agro (like tempo should) and I feel like post-board reanimator isn't that much of an issue either.

List
+ Show Spoiler +

2 Snapcaster Mage
4 Wolfir Avenger
4 Yeva, Nature's Herald
1 AEtherling

2 Simic Charm
4 Advent of the Wurm
4 Azorius Charm
3 Think Twice
3 Sphinx's Revelation
3 Dissipate

4 Supreme Verdict

1 Detention Sphere

4 Hallowed Fountain
4 Hinterland Harbor
4 Breeding Pool
4 Glacial Fortress
4 Temple Garden
3 Sunpetal Grove
1 Cavern of Souls
1 Forest


Edit: To the people who want to use Varolz, don't have more than 1 or 2 of him in a deck. Sure he makes your creatures able to do things even after they've died (value), but it's such a huge tempo loss to spend your mana pumping one of your guys and to lose him to simic charm/azorius charm/removal of any sort. At the end of the day he's a 2/2 for 3 that has a potentially strong upside late. Ruric Thar is bonkers good, though, in case people were on the fence about that bastard of a card.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Audemed
Profile Joined November 2010
United States893 Posts
April 25 2013 20:13 GMT
#7203
I finally decided to liquidate my online collection, as it's been sitting there idle for months since I don't have the money to do digital and paper, and I like paper more. Where/how is the best place/way to sell the tickets?
"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." -George Orwell
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
April 25 2013 20:19 GMT
#7204
On April 26 2013 05:13 Audemed wrote:
I finally decided to liquidate my online collection, as it's been sitting there idle for months since I don't have the money to do digital and paper, and I like paper more. Where/how is the best place/way to sell the tickets?


ebay or give them to me.
Audemed
Profile Joined November 2010
United States893 Posts
April 25 2013 21:44 GMT
#7205
I'll send you all of them for 3 Rev's. Real ones, ofc.
"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." -George Orwell
BlueBird.
Profile Joined August 2008
United States3889 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-25 23:29:37
April 25 2013 23:28 GMT
#7206
I used to go through ebay, and have successfully sold around 400 tickets on ebay.

I think the safest way is to sell to someone you know personally, or people from your LGS that you can somewhat trust, have a laptop with MTGO installed and do the transaction in person(both cash and tickets) for safety of both parties. I used to sell tickets to the same guy I borrow MTGO stuff from, and it always worked out.

I have also dumped an entire collection + tickets to MTGO traders(they send you money through paypal) when I was moving once since I needed cash(I've never built up a collection again, just borrow) . It was extremely quick and easy, and I had known people that done it in the past, but of course I didn't get nearly as much had I looked around, so this is if you don't want to look around and your in a hurry.
Currently Playing: Android Netrunner, Gwent, Gloomhaven, Board Games
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
April 26 2013 00:58 GMT
#7207
Did not realize Sphinx's were at 25 median, weird.
Get it by your hands...
cLAN.Anax
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States2847 Posts
April 26 2013 05:55 GMT
#7208
POLL TIME!!

Poll: Which guild will you choose this weekend?

Boros (3)
 
25%

Rakdos (3)
 
25%

Orzhov (2)
 
17%

Dimir (1)
 
8%

Golgari (1)
 
8%

Gruul (1)
 
8%

Simic (1)
 
8%

Azorius (0)
 
0%

Izzet (0)
 
0%

Selesnya (0)
 
0%

12 total votes

Your vote: Which guild will you choose this weekend?

(Vote): Azorius
(Vote): Boros
(Vote): Dimir
(Vote): Golgari
(Vote): Gruul
(Vote): Izzet
(Vote): Orzhov
(Vote): Rakdos
(Vote): Selesnya
(Vote): Simic



Poll: Which secondary guild will you be pryaing to get?

Selesnya (3)
 
25%

Orzhov (2)
 
17%

Izzet (2)
 
17%

Azorius (1)
 
8%

Golgari (1)
 
8%

Gruul (1)
 
8%

Rakdos (1)
 
8%

Simic (1)
 
8%

Boros (0)
 
0%

Dimir (0)
 
0%

12 total votes

Your vote: Which secondary guild will you be pryaing to get?

(Vote): Azorius
(Vote): Boros
(Vote): Dimir
(Vote): Golgari
(Vote): Gruul
(Vote): Izzet
(Vote): Orzhov
(Vote): Rakdos
(Vote): Selesnya
(Vote): Simic



+ Show Spoiler [Oops.] +
I misspelled "praying." Shameful display on my part. :r


I would love to go Boro-Zorius or Bor-Izzet if I didn't have a concert this Sunday. (local shop's only participating on Sunday; it's gon' be packed like GC was...)
┬─┬___(ツ)_/¯ 彡┻━┻ I am the 4%. "I cant believe i saw ANAL backwards before i saw the word LAN." - Capped
iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
April 26 2013 13:35 GMT
#7209
Izzet is the best guild.

That is why I picked Rakdos.
MOTM | Stim.tv | TL Mafia | Fantasy Fighting! | SNSD
Meta
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States6225 Posts
April 26 2013 14:06 GMT
#7210
So for the prerelease, do we just get boosters? Is there any way to know what cards are in the packs, or do they just randomly pick cards that are in your guild?
good vibes only
SigmaoctanusIV
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States3313 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-26 19:04:50
April 26 2013 17:38 GMT
#7211
I am going with Golgari I don't really see a bad choice in guilds to be honest. it's all on your playing style and luck from the boosters, I plan on splashing blue and going bug, hoping for a cloudfin raptor or some other flying dude, that I can use the Champion to make huge dudes and just go over the top.
I am Godzilla You are Japan
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
April 26 2013 17:40 GMT
#7212
Hope people realize that they can not use their special cards in this pre-release event.
Get it by your hands...
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
April 26 2013 18:33 GMT
#7213
On April 27 2013 02:40 Judicator wrote:
Hope people realize that they can not use their special cards in this pre-release event.

You don't get enough Gates from the packs/boosters to win with Maze's End anyway.

Power level for most of the stuff in Pre-release seems fairly balance for the most part so just going to play favourites hehe.
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
April 27 2013 00:29 GMT
#7214
Went Orzhov because I just really like Junk. We'll see how it ends up.
DarthXX
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia998 Posts
April 27 2013 00:44 GMT
#7215
Went Orzhov hoping for Selesnya
cLAN.Anax
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States2847 Posts
April 27 2013 00:55 GMT
#7216
Thought Doctoring is more versatile than we thought; Gatherer comments are a boon. Consider Nivmagus Elemental, Woodlot Crawler, or Blood Baron if you're going Esper. Perhaps it makes more sense now?

I agree that it's still an incredibly narrow card and probably won't see much play. But at least we now have more ideas on what is possible to do with it.
┬─┬___(ツ)_/¯ 彡┻━┻ I am the 4%. "I cant believe i saw ANAL backwards before i saw the word LAN." - Capped
iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
April 27 2013 01:12 GMT
#7217
Damn, that's a lot of special rulings for one card.
MOTM | Stim.tv | TL Mafia | Fantasy Fighting! | SNSD
iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
April 27 2013 01:22 GMT
#7218
On April 27 2013 09:55 cLAN.Anax wrote:
Thought Doctoring is more versatile than we thought; Gatherer comments are a boon. Consider Nivmagus Elemental, Woodlot Crawler, or Blood Baron if you're going Esper. Perhaps it makes more sense now?

I agree that it's still an incredibly narrow card and probably won't see much play. But at least we now have more ideas on what is possible to do with it.

I don't see how it synergises with any of those. It would be great if cipher triggered on declaration of attackers, but it doesn't.

What good is changing Forestwalk to Islandwalk after you've already swung and assigned damage?? Or protection - why would your opponent save their removal for your second main phase?

Nivmagus, in theory, could work in some sort of Delver shell with this and curiosity. But that is the only possible place I can see this being good.

It would be great if one of two changes happened - it triggered on declaration of attacker, or was permanent. As is it is completely useless, unfortunately.
MOTM | Stim.tv | TL Mafia | Fantasy Fighting! | SNSD
cLAN.Anax
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States2847 Posts
April 27 2013 01:35 GMT
#7219
On April 27 2013 10:22 iGrok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2013 09:55 cLAN.Anax wrote:
Thought Doctoring is more versatile than we thought; Gatherer comments are a boon. Consider Nivmagus Elemental, Woodlot Crawler, or Blood Baron if you're going Esper. Perhaps it makes more sense now?

I agree that it's still an incredibly narrow card and probably won't see much play. But at least we now have more ideas on what is possible to do with it.

I don't see how it synergises with any of those. It would be great if cipher triggered on declaration of attackers, but it doesn't.

What good is changing Forestwalk to Islandwalk after you've already swung and assigned damage?? Or protection - why would your opponent save their removal for your second main phase?

Nivmagus, in theory, could work in some sort of Delver shell with this and curiosity. But that is the only possible place I can see this being good.

It would be great if one of two changes happened - it triggered on declaration of attacker, or was permanent. As is it is completely useless, unfortunately.


(Trait Doctoring; totally my bad...) You're right about the Woodlot Crawler.

Of course it'll do well with Delver. Everything seems to do well with Delver, lol. But... CHALLENGE ACCEPTED. >:-D
┬─┬___(ツ)_/¯ 彡┻━┻ I am the 4%. "I cant believe i saw ANAL backwards before i saw the word LAN." - Capped
iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-27 01:45:51
April 27 2013 01:45 GMT
#7220
Actually it doesn't even like Delver all that much because it doesn't affect Runechanter's Pike and you can't snap it. God damnit, this is so close to being good but it is terrible in just about every situation.
MOTM | Stim.tv | TL Mafia | Fantasy Fighting! | SNSD
Prev 1 359 360 361 362 363 665 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Replay Cast
09:00
Crank Gathers S2: Playoffs D3
CranKy Ducklings40
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
SortOf 129
Nina 118
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 9429
actioN 503
Larva 444
PianO 311
Rush 146
Liquid`Ret 57
Killer 54
ToSsGirL 49
sorry 46
Sacsri 23
[ Show more ]
soO 23
NaDa 20
Sharp 16
Terrorterran 7
Dota 2
XaKoH 643
League of Legends
JimRising 623
Reynor58
Counter-Strike
zeus232
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King136
amsayoshi32
Other Games
summit1g16163
ceh9421
NeuroSwarm47
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick381
Counter-Strike
PGL193
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• LUISG 23
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• iopq 6
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos1287
• Lourlo1056
Upcoming Events
Wardi Open
2h 33m
Monday Night Weeklies
7h 33m
Replay Cast
13h 33m
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d
WardiTV Korean Royale
1d 2h
LAN Event
1d 5h
Replay Cast
1d 23h
WardiTV Korean Royale
2 days
LAN Event
2 days
OSC
2 days
[ Show More ]
The PondCast
3 days
LAN Event
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
LAN Event
4 days
Korean StarCraft League
4 days
CranKy Ducklings
5 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
5 days
LAN Event
5 days
IPSL
5 days
dxtr13 vs OldBoy
Napoleon vs Doodle
Replay Cast
5 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
6 days
LAN Event
6 days
IPSL
6 days
JDConan vs WIZARD
WolFix vs Cross
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

BSL 21 Points
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
Eternal Conflict S1

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
SOOP Univ League 2025
YSL S2
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025

Upcoming

BSL Season 21
SLON Tour Season 2
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXVIII
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
RSL Revival: Season 3
Stellar Fest
META Madness #9
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026: Closed Qualifier
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.