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masterbreti
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Korea (South)2711 Posts
April 19 2012 09:40 GMT
#3201
On April 19 2012 17:50 dignity wrote:
Whats your budget range?

By simple I assume you are going to want an aggro list, since control is more complicated to play. If you want a competitive deck though, keep in mind that it will be pricy and will not be very simple to play properly.


Well right now I'm going to be playing on magic workstation so price really doesn't matter. Can't really spend money on mtg haha.
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
April 19 2012 11:14 GMT
#3202
Play Delver, it's simple but difficult at the same time. If that's too hard, then play RG aggro. Delver teaches new players a lot of things such as combat tricks, damage calculations, when to press and when to hold back, and etc. It's a herp derpy deck thanks to hexproof and swords, and it's a hard deck because you actually have to plan your turns and play accordingly to the match up. The difference between good Delver players and bad ones are very apparent, so you can judge your own progress as more lines of play become more apparent to you. In that sense its very "easy" to point out where in a game you messed up or did well.
Get it by your hands...
hkf
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Australia354 Posts
April 19 2012 23:08 GMT
#3203
The 2UU mythic that only trades for a delver is pretty hilarious

"HEY GUYS WE PRINTED AN ANSWER TO DELVER, AND YOU CAN MOORLAND IT, NO ITS AWESOME DAMN YOU"

-_-"
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-19 23:13:03
April 19 2012 23:12 GMT
#3204
On April 20 2012 08:08 hkf wrote:
The 2UU mythic that only trades for a delver is pretty hilarious

"HEY GUYS WE PRINTED AN ANSWER TO DELVER, AND YOU CAN MOORLAND IT, NO ITS AWESOME DAMN YOU"

-_-"

There's gotta be some way to break that card, I know there is, but I don't know enough cards to know what it is.

This card should be easy to break too:

[image loading]
hkf
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Australia354 Posts
April 19 2012 23:27 GMT
#3205
On April 20 2012 08:12 deth2munkies wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2012 08:08 hkf wrote:
The 2UU mythic that only trades for a delver is pretty hilarious

"HEY GUYS WE PRINTED AN ANSWER TO DELVER, AND YOU CAN MOORLAND IT, NO ITS AWESOME DAMN YOU"

-_-"

There's gotta be some way to break that card, I know there is, but I don't know enough cards to know what it is.

This card should be easy to break too:

[image loading]

Wow. Straight into my Azusa commander deck. That card is genesis wave on steroids.
dignity
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada908 Posts
April 20 2012 00:17 GMT
#3206
That thing is insane...

Into every green edh deck you go!
DEN1ED
Profile Joined December 2009
United States1087 Posts
April 20 2012 01:06 GMT
#3207
Ya it will probably be insane for edh but seems terrible otherwise. You want to ramp into it with rampant growths etc so you are going to have to play a lot of spells. Unless you try to play a ton of elves/birds but then you just lose to slagstorm or any sweeper. The blue mythic seems alright. Not sure why it's mythic but the fact that you can keep moorland haunting it and replaying make it seem like a good 1-2 of in a UW control deck maybe. Although I guess control isn't really good enough right now for that to be your finisher. Play titans or lose.
el_dawg
Profile Joined September 2011
United States164 Posts
April 20 2012 01:24 GMT
#3208
On April 20 2012 08:12 deth2munkies wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2012 08:08 hkf wrote:
The 2UU mythic that only trades for a delver is pretty hilarious

"HEY GUYS WE PRINTED AN ANSWER TO DELVER, AND YOU CAN MOORLAND IT, NO ITS AWESOME DAMN YOU"

-_-"

There's gotta be some way to break that card, I know there is, but I don't know enough cards to know what it is.



Food chain, but a lot of stuff is broken with food chain.

http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=19737
hkf
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Australia354 Posts
April 20 2012 01:26 GMT
#3209
On April 20 2012 10:24 el_dawg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2012 08:12 deth2munkies wrote:
On April 20 2012 08:08 hkf wrote:
The 2UU mythic that only trades for a delver is pretty hilarious

"HEY GUYS WE PRINTED AN ANSWER TO DELVER, AND YOU CAN MOORLAND IT, NO ITS AWESOME DAMN YOU"

-_-"

There's gotta be some way to break that card, I know there is, but I don't know enough cards to know what it is.



Food chain, but a lot of stuff is broken with food chain.

http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=19737


It's what came to mind at first instantly but a 4GUU combo for infinite creature mana is too slow for legacy.
bobbob
Profile Joined December 2009
United States368 Posts
April 20 2012 01:33 GMT
#3210
On April 20 2012 08:12 deth2munkies wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2012 08:08 hkf wrote:
The 2UU mythic that only trades for a delver is pretty hilarious

"HEY GUYS WE PRINTED AN ANSWER TO DELVER, AND YOU CAN MOORLAND IT, NO ITS AWESOME DAMN YOU"

-_-"

There's gotta be some way to break that card, I know there is, but I don't know enough cards to know what it is.

This card should be easy to break too:

[image loading]


Food Chain goes off with it in Legacy. There probably isn't a great way to break it in standard, but considering you can pitch it to FoW or misD it has other upsides. Also its inability to get plowed is pretty relevant when many decks only have plow for removal (GW maverick, UW stoneblade)
sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
April 20 2012 01:39 GMT
#3211
On April 20 2012 08:08 hkf wrote:
The 2UU mythic that only trades for a delver is pretty hilarious

"HEY GUYS WE PRINTED AN ANSWER TO DELVER, AND YOU CAN MOORLAND IT, NO ITS AWESOME DAMN YOU"

-_-"


Maybe I'm blind or something but I can't see what card you are referring to here :/
Forever Young
hkf
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Australia354 Posts
April 20 2012 01:45 GMT
#3212
On April 20 2012 10:39 sung_moon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2012 08:08 hkf wrote:
The 2UU mythic that only trades for a delver is pretty hilarious

"HEY GUYS WE PRINTED AN ANSWER TO DELVER, AND YOU CAN MOORLAND IT, NO ITS AWESOME DAMN YOU"

-_-"


Maybe I'm blind or something but I can't see what card you are referring to here :/

2UU 3/3 Flying. You may play ~this~ from exile. Mythic
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-20 02:04:53
April 20 2012 02:02 GMT
#3213
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
On April 20 2012 10:45 hkf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2012 10:39 sung_moon wrote:
On April 20 2012 08:08 hkf wrote:
The 2UU mythic that only trades for a delver is pretty hilarious

"HEY GUYS WE PRINTED AN ANSWER TO DELVER, AND YOU CAN MOORLAND IT, NO ITS AWESOME DAMN YOU"

-_-"


Maybe I'm blind or something but I can't see what card you are referring to here :/

2UU 3/3 Flying. You may play ~this~ from exile. Mythic



Also:

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


What the fuck...
BlueBird.
Profile Joined August 2008
United States3890 Posts
April 20 2012 02:04 GMT
#3214
On April 20 2012 10:33 bobbob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2012 08:12 deth2munkies wrote:
On April 20 2012 08:08 hkf wrote:
The 2UU mythic that only trades for a delver is pretty hilarious

"HEY GUYS WE PRINTED AN ANSWER TO DELVER, AND YOU CAN MOORLAND IT, NO ITS AWESOME DAMN YOU"

-_-"

There's gotta be some way to break that card, I know there is, but I don't know enough cards to know what it is.

This card should be easy to break too:

[image loading]


Food Chain goes off with it in Legacy. There probably isn't a great way to break it in standard, but considering you can pitch it to FoW or misD it has other upsides. Also its inability to get plowed is pretty relevant when many decks only have plow for removal (GW maverick, UW stoneblade)


I mean if your attacking to kill someone after plowing it out of the way it's not really doing much, If my opponents are spending four mana over and over for a 3/3 flyer in legacy I feel like I would be pretty damn happy.

Interaction with moorland haunt etc in standard is generally interesting, dungeon geists as a 3/3 flyer without keeping something tapped actually can win some games, so it's not awful in standard i guess. Not sure if it has a home right now but maybe in future standard.
Currently Playing: Android Netrunner, Gwent, Gloomhaven, Board Games
hkf
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Australia354 Posts
April 20 2012 02:07 GMT
#3215
On April 20 2012 11:04 BlueBird. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2012 10:33 bobbob wrote:
On April 20 2012 08:12 deth2munkies wrote:
On April 20 2012 08:08 hkf wrote:
The 2UU mythic that only trades for a delver is pretty hilarious

"HEY GUYS WE PRINTED AN ANSWER TO DELVER, AND YOU CAN MOORLAND IT, NO ITS AWESOME DAMN YOU"

-_-"

There's gotta be some way to break that card, I know there is, but I don't know enough cards to know what it is.

This card should be easy to break too:

[image loading]


Food Chain goes off with it in Legacy. There probably isn't a great way to break it in standard, but considering you can pitch it to FoW or misD it has other upsides. Also its inability to get plowed is pretty relevant when many decks only have plow for removal (GW maverick, UW stoneblade)


I mean if your attacking to kill someone after plowing it out of the way it's not really doing much, If my opponents are spending four mana over and over for a 3/3 flyer in legacy I feel like I would be pretty damn happy.

Interaction with moorland haunt etc in standard is generally interesting, dungeon geists as a 3/3 flyer without keeping something tapped actually can win some games, so it's not awful in standard i guess. Not sure if it has a home right now but maybe in future standard.


If no bolt in M13 then I agree, otherwise, fails bolt test, gg.
wunsun
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada622 Posts
April 20 2012 02:10 GMT
#3216
On April 20 2012 11:02 deth2munkies wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2012 10:45 hkf wrote:
On April 20 2012 10:39 sung_moon wrote:
On April 20 2012 08:08 hkf wrote:
The 2UU mythic that only trades for a delver is pretty hilarious

"HEY GUYS WE PRINTED AN ANSWER TO DELVER, AND YOU CAN MOORLAND IT, NO ITS AWESOME DAMN YOU"

-_-"


Maybe I'm blind or something but I can't see what card you are referring to here :/

2UU 3/3 Flying. You may play ~this~ from exile. Mythic



Also:

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


What the fuck...


Not sure how useful that will actually be. By turn 5, RX decks are pretty aggro so it'll be at best a 7/7 maybe. Still pretty bomby, but as you start to push harder, it just gets weaker and weaker.
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
April 20 2012 02:40 GMT
#3217
On April 20 2012 11:10 wunsun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2012 11:02 deth2munkies wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
On April 20 2012 10:45 hkf wrote:
On April 20 2012 10:39 sung_moon wrote:
On April 20 2012 08:08 hkf wrote:
The 2UU mythic that only trades for a delver is pretty hilarious

"HEY GUYS WE PRINTED AN ANSWER TO DELVER, AND YOU CAN MOORLAND IT, NO ITS AWESOME DAMN YOU"

-_-"


Maybe I'm blind or something but I can't see what card you are referring to here :/

2UU 3/3 Flying. You may play ~this~ from exile. Mythic



Also:

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


What the fuck...


Not sure how useful that will actually be. By turn 5, RX decks are pretty aggro so it'll be at best a 7/7 maybe. Still pretty bomby, but as you start to push harder, it just gets weaker and weaker.


Yeah, but EDH against a Rune-Tail deck (a guy at my shop plays him) it's just absurd.
ManyCookies
Profile Joined December 2010
1164 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-20 04:22:52
April 20 2012 04:22 GMT
#3218
New Counterspell hate land.

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
dignity
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada908 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-20 04:37:37
April 20 2012 04:34 GMT
#3219
Cavern of souls was spoiled a while ago. Malignus is mostly an edh card.

Also, with the amount of cards that can kill delver being spoiled, delver will cease to exist as a deck once avacyn restored comes out. The sphinx is not even anything close to a delver answer. Blue has much better answers to delver than a 4 drop french vanila.
slyboogie
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3423 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-20 04:46:00
April 20 2012 04:45 GMT
#3220
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