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Pensivesoul
Profile Joined April 2010
United States23 Posts
July 14 2010 19:12 GMT
#441
Ooh you guys figured it all out...just the way the knife reached the closet huh?

We know the mechanism doesnt close the door and is more pulley like and not really elastic.

Is the orientation of Harry's dead body on the floor relevant to the mechanism of the knife being moved/dragged/pulled into the closet?

Is it Harry's weight that drags/pulls/moves the knife to the closet?

Does Harry's scream trigger/have anything to do with the mechanism?


This is my theory. Do let me know what you think of it. Monkey_rulz or anyone else.
Harry set up a retractable usb like device in the closet outside the bedroom such that the string reached maximum tension in the bathroom...one of those spring loaded things where you have to pull the string away from the retraction point in a sudden jerk movement to trigger the retraction mechanism. He stabs himself "fatally" in one clean quick stroke and then automatically lets go which pulls the knife back super quick into the open closet near the bedroom. The housekeeper was forewarned to close the closet door on her way up by Harry and retrieve the knife after all the hue and cry had been subdued. Which she did, except for that one smart officer left behind who saw the trail of blood leading to the closet and should have known where the knife was all along?!?!?

haha ... well apart from that obvious flaw with the story line and the fact that they should really call in Dexter, the blood splatter expert, I think it explains the story reasonably well. Doesnt mean it's the way Harry did it though .

As for the blood trail, I guess it could be explained - maybe the officer noticed the blood trail but decided to wait to see who else was involved? So he waited in the bushes or in a van, stake-out style to see who would retrieve and dump it?




The chicken definitely came first.
kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
July 14 2010 19:15 GMT
#442
Was the closet door open before the murder?

Is there an object in the closet that is responsible for the transport mechanism?

Was the mechanism only used to return the knife? (Not part of the stabbing?)

Was the knife found on the floor of the closet?

Was the knife traveling in mid-air during transport?

Did the knife require a manual control from Harry to return to the closet? Or was it automatic?
Terranlisk
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Singapore1404 Posts
July 14 2010 19:17 GMT
#443
does the mechanism have wheels?
aka myheronoob
GenesisX
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada4267 Posts
July 14 2010 19:23 GMT
#444
My thoughts:

Harry and his wife were in deep financial trouble, and Harry had just lost a source of income. He knew his wife could not support herself (or him) so he staged a murder to get monies from his life insurance policy to help his wife. Harry killed himself and used a mechanism to transport the knife into the closet. The housekeeper was to conceal the knife so that she and the wife could not be charged for murder.

=/
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Neon_Monkey
Profile Joined February 2008
United States270 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-14 19:31:35
July 14 2010 19:23 GMT
#445
On July 15 2010 04:12 Pensivesoul wrote:
Ooh you guys figured it all out...just the way the knife reached the closet huh?

We know the mechanism doesnt close the door and is more pulley like and not really elastic.

Is the orientation of Harry's dead body on the floor relevant to the mechanism of the knife being moved/dragged/pulled into the closet?

Is it Harry's weight that drags/pulls/moves the knife to the closet?

Does Harry's scream trigger/have anything to do with the mechanism?


This is my theory. Do let me know what you think of it. Monkey_rulz or anyone else.
Harry set up a retractable usb like device in the closet outside the bedroom such that the string reached maximum tension in the bathroom...one of those spring loaded things where you have to pull the string away from the retraction point in a sudden jerk movement to trigger the retraction mechanism. He stabs himself "fatally" in one clean quick stroke and then automatically lets go which pulls the knife back super quick into the open closet near the bedroom. The housekeeper was forewarned to close the closet door on her way up by Harry and retrieve the knife after all the hue and cry had been subdued. Which she did, except for that one smart officer left behind who saw the trail of blood leading to the closet and should have known where the knife was all along?!?!?

haha ... well apart from that obvious flaw with the story line and the fact that they should really call in Dexter, the blood splatter expert, I think it explains the story reasonably well. Doesnt mean it's the way Harry did it though .

As for the blood trail, I guess it could be explained - maybe the officer noticed the blood trail but decided to wait to see who else was involved? So he waited in the bushes or in a van, stake-out style to see who would retrieve and dump it?




That is 100% correct. You are just missing the specific device.

Was the closet door open before the murder?

Yes

Is there an object in the closet that is responsible for the transport mechanism?

Yes

Was the mechanism only used to return the knife? (Not part of the stabbing?)

Correct

Was the knife found on the floor of the closet?

Possibly

Was the knife traveling in mid-air during transport?

probably not

Did the knife require a manual control from Harry to return to the closet? Or was it automatic?

I don't know.

does the mechanism have wheels?

I assume so.

Is the orientation of Harry's dead body on the floor relevant to the mechanism of the knife being moved/dragged/pulled into the closet?

No

Is it Harry's weight that drags/pulls/moves the knife to the closet?

No

Does Harry's scream trigger/have anything to do with the mechanism?

No

Edit: Did the knife require a manual control from Harry to return to the closet? Or was it automatic?

It is mostly, if not entirely, automatic
XeliN
Profile Joined June 2009
United Kingdom1755 Posts
July 14 2010 19:30 GMT
#446
Surely this has been answered now, as far as I can tell every criteria has been met, bar giving a detailed and indepth description of the type of mechanism used to quickly make the knife travel from harry to the closet, seems like quite a trivial thing given we've pretty much outlined exactly what happened.
Adonai bless
Neon_Monkey
Profile Joined February 2008
United States270 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-14 19:34:36
July 14 2010 19:34 GMT
#447
On July 15 2010 04:30 XeliN wrote:
Surely this has been answered now, as far as I can tell every criteria has been met, bar giving a detailed and indepth description of the type of mechanism used to quickly make the knife travel from harry to the closet, seems like quite a trivial thing given we've pretty much outlined exactly what happened.


Well the game wants you to think of the specific device, because it makes sense given the location of the knife (hint). But I do agree, it is a pretty trivial detail.

Misder
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1557 Posts
July 14 2010 19:36 GMT
#448
Is the device a cart?
Whaaaa?
Inkarnate
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada840 Posts
July 14 2010 19:38 GMT
#449
Is the device a gaily colored clown jack in the box, with the knife in his hand while there is a maniacal smile on his face?
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
July 14 2010 19:45 GMT
#450
Is there a straight path from the bathroom to the closet or does the mechanism have to take bends and corners into account?
Neon_Monkey
Profile Joined February 2008
United States270 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-14 19:52:17
July 14 2010 19:52 GMT
#451
Is the device a cart?

No

Is the device a gaily colored clown jack in the box, with the knife in his hand while there is a maniacal smile on his face?

unfortunately not.

Is there a straight path from the bathroom to the closet or does the mechanism have to take bends and corners into account?

I don't know, it could probably take it around a corner if it need be.

Also, the "usb-like" part of pensive's description is probably wrong, and as already stated it is not a attached to a string.
dcberkeley
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada844 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-14 19:53:36
July 14 2010 19:53 GMT
#452
Is the room's fan involved?
Moktira is da bomb
Neon_Monkey
Profile Joined February 2008
United States270 Posts
July 14 2010 19:53 GMT
#453
Is the room's fan involved?

no

Is the knife attached to a string/rope? (slightly different from a previous question)

no
dcberkeley
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada844 Posts
July 14 2010 19:55 GMT
#454
Is the knife attached to an object bigger than it? Smaller?
Moktira is da bomb
Neon_Monkey
Profile Joined February 2008
United States270 Posts
July 14 2010 20:10 GMT
#455
Is the knife attached to an object bigger than it? Smaller?

Bigger.
dcberkeley
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada844 Posts
July 14 2010 20:32 GMT
#456
So wheels are involved eh? Are the wheels part of the pulley system only?

Is the knife attached to the object by being tied to it?
Moktira is da bomb
Neon_Monkey
Profile Joined February 2008
United States270 Posts
July 14 2010 20:41 GMT
#457
Are the wheels part of the pulley system only?

They are not part of the pulley system at all (i don't even know if its a pulley system). As pensive said, the item is retractable, and I don't know how things are built to be retracted >.>

Is the knife attached to the object by being tied to it?

Yes.
Neobick
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Sweden208 Posts
July 14 2010 20:45 GMT
#458
Is it something involving a vacuum-cleaner chord that roll back when you pull it, if so is it tied to the knife?


Know its a long shot.
Use the force.
Neon_Monkey
Profile Joined February 2008
United States270 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-14 20:48:27
July 14 2010 20:46 GMT
#459
On July 15 2010 05:45 Neobick wrote:
Is it something involving a vacuum-cleaner chord that roll back when you pull it, if so is it tied to the knife?


Know its a long shot.


Correct. Here is the story. XD

Harry Ashton was dying, and in financial straits. His insurance policy would inject much-needed cash into his failing business, but the policy would not pay out for death by his disease (a pre-existing condition) or from suicide. What he needed was a suicide that looked like a murder, but one that no one would ever be arrested for.

His plan took nerve but was simple. He took a light-weight knife, and tied the handle to the retractable cord of a vacuum cleaner in the hall closet. There was an unobstructed path from his bathroom, through the bedroom and out to the closet. After stabbing himself, he let go and the cord retracted, pulling the knife all the way into the closet. His loyal housekeeper was his accomplice: being the first on the scene, she closed the closet door, then later recovered the weapon. Ironically, it was the police, not the housekeeper, who noticed the tiny drops of blood leading to the closet.

I'll probably post the next mystery in about an hour.
Pensivesoul
Profile Joined April 2010
United States23 Posts
July 14 2010 20:58 GMT
#460
While this mystery was albeit a little frustrating and redundant, it is still so much fun.

Thanks so much for doing this...Zap and Monkeyz_rule

You both rock! or well in this case, rule!
The chicken definitely came first.
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