• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 22:15
CEST 04:15
KST 11:15
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2914Serral wins Maestros of the Game 243ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12
Community News
SC4ALL II announced - $10,000 prize pool, Dec 5-63PIG STY FESTIVAL 8.0! (13 - 23 August)8Neeb returns to progaming; rejoins ONSYDE15Weekly Cups (July 20-26): Early returns on 5.0.16b8IntoTheTV X SOOP SC2 League : Weekly & Monthly5
StarCraft 2
General
Life's Huge Gambling Spree After IEM Katowice 2014 Neeb returns to progaming; rejoins ONSYDE SC4ALL II: StarCraft 2 Player Announcement 1/8 Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) Clem: "I don't have that much hope in Blizzard"
Tourneys
Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament SC4ALL II announced - $10,000 prize pool, Dec 5-6 PIG STY FESTIVAL 8.0! (13 - 23 August) IntoTheTV X SOOP SC2 League : Weekly & Monthly Crank Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
Mutation # 536 Railroad Switch The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 535 Assembly of Vengeance Mutation # 534 Burning Evacuation
Brood War
General
ASL22 General Discussion Making an Online Broodwar Manager Game BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion BW Drama: Terror's Debt Incident + C9 disbanding
Tourneys
2v2v2v2 Tournament Escore Tournament - Season 3 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues BSL LAN Party - Kraków 29-30 August - OPEN SIGNUPS
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Fighting Spirit mining rates Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation PvT advise for noobs
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Beyond All Reason Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile ZeroSpace Early Access is Now Live!
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish TSM pausing esports and CLG Dead
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Power Rank TL Mafia Community Thread NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Artificial Intelligence Thread US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
The Scarlett Fan Club The IdrA Fan Club The HerO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread Series you have seen recently... [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 McBoner: A hockey love story
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Simple Questions Simple Answers FPS when play League Of Legend on laptop
TL Community
Northern Ireland Global Starcraft The Automated Ban List
Blogs
What is a Gamer?
TrAiDoS
Hello guys!
LIN1s
ASL S22 English Commentary…
namkraft
Poker (part 2)
Nebuchad
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 3793 users

Diablo III General Discussion - Page 316

Forum Index > General Games
Post a Reply
Prev 1 314 315 316 317 318 1109 Next
Alpino
Profile Joined June 2011
Brazil4390 Posts
April 20 2012 14:08 GMT
#6301
Just got to level 11 on my Demon Hunter, shiiit Bola Shot tripled the amount of fun of playing this class.
20/11/2015 - never forget EE's Ember
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
April 20 2012 16:31 GMT
#6302
On April 20 2012 21:53 HardlyNever wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2012 15:51 skyR wrote:
On April 20 2012 08:48 HardlyNever wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
On April 20 2012 07:12 Duckvillelol wrote:
Has anyone seen much info/video about the PvP arena feature? I've been... thinking about switching over from SC2 commentary to D3 pvp commentary. I have heard from a few people that it's perfectly viable, but of course I haven't seen much myself.

Any ideas/thoughts/comments?


You might want to look at this first



Ignore the stupid troll crap for the 2nd half of the video. That doesn't mean it couldn't work at all but...

Edit: The poster of the video is retarded, as that has nothing to do with WoW pvp. There is a longer video with more thoughts on D3 pvp, but that had the key part I wanted to show you.


Pretty stupid of them to say one thing and do the exact opposite.


Not really sure how they are doing "the exact opposite." They have a method for balancing pvp to some degree, that doesn't instantly mean esport. That just means they can make a somewhat more balanced pvp.

There are still a lot of things they are NOT including to make it an esport such as spectator modes, rankings, etc.

Who knows what will happen in the future, but if you go into this expecting an esport, you're probably gonna have a bad time. Maybe in an expansion they will focus more on pvp, idk.


Well if they're making two distinct skill sets, this clearly tells me that Blizzard wants to have a basis for the game to turn into an esports. The only audience that this satisfies is the hardcore PvP audience. The casual and PvE audience doesn't care if PvP is balanced since it doesn't need to be for it to be fun.

I'm not expecting Diablo III to be an esports and I'm not looking forward to this type of system of having PvP and PvE skill rules.
HardlyNever
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States1258 Posts
April 20 2012 19:42 GMT
#6303
On April 21 2012 01:31 skyR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2012 21:53 HardlyNever wrote:
On April 20 2012 15:51 skyR wrote:
On April 20 2012 08:48 HardlyNever wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
On April 20 2012 07:12 Duckvillelol wrote:
Has anyone seen much info/video about the PvP arena feature? I've been... thinking about switching over from SC2 commentary to D3 pvp commentary. I have heard from a few people that it's perfectly viable, but of course I haven't seen much myself.

Any ideas/thoughts/comments?


You might want to look at this first

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLLWpT_nsTE

Ignore the stupid troll crap for the 2nd half of the video. That doesn't mean it couldn't work at all but...

Edit: The poster of the video is retarded, as that has nothing to do with WoW pvp. There is a longer video with more thoughts on D3 pvp, but that had the key part I wanted to show you.


Pretty stupid of them to say one thing and do the exact opposite.


Not really sure how they are doing "the exact opposite." They have a method for balancing pvp to some degree, that doesn't instantly mean esport. That just means they can make a somewhat more balanced pvp.

There are still a lot of things they are NOT including to make it an esport such as spectator modes, rankings, etc.

Who knows what will happen in the future, but if you go into this expecting an esport, you're probably gonna have a bad time. Maybe in an expansion they will focus more on pvp, idk.


Well if they're making two distinct skill sets, this clearly tells me that Blizzard wants to have a basis for the game to turn into an esports. The only audience that this satisfies is the hardcore PvP audience. The casual and PvE audience doesn't care if PvP is balanced since it doesn't need to be for it to be fun.

I'm not expecting Diablo III to be an esports and I'm not looking forward to this type of system of having PvP and PvE skill rules.


I don't agree with that logic at all. That is all I can really say. Just because they they are trying to create a somewhat balanced pvp, does not mean it they are trying to make it an esport. It just doesn't. If you see it differently, then I guess we'll just have to disagree, but I don't see why improving the pvp in any fashion immediately says "esport." That is very binary thinking, to me.

As Jay Wilson says, he is well aware people are going to TRY to turn it into an esport. Whether or not they succeed we will just have to see, but that route won't be directly supported by Blizzard

Again, there are a lot of things they AREN'T doing, that you would expect in an "esport" at this point, as well.
Out there, the Kid learned to fend for himself. Learned to build. Learned to break.
maartendq
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Belgium3115 Posts
April 20 2012 21:36 GMT
#6304
Just finished the beta, and I'm not that fond of the skill system. Call me old-fashioned, but I prefer Diablo 2's or Torchlight's system.
{ToT}ColmA
Profile Joined November 2007
Japan3260 Posts
April 20 2012 21:51 GMT
#6305
did the beta pretty clueless, am shocked by the skill system, no points for attributes and u get every skill just by leveling up and not some talent trees. thats kinda bad, besides that witchdoctor seems rather bad earlygame and Demonhunter is so much fun :3
The only virgins in kpop left are the fans
da_head
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada3350 Posts
April 20 2012 23:48 GMT
#6306
On April 21 2012 06:51 {ToT}ColmA wrote:
did the beta pretty clueless, am shocked by the skill system, no points for attributes and u get every skill just by leveling up and not some talent trees. thats kinda bad, besides that witchdoctor seems rather bad earlygame and Demonhunter is so much fun :3

yea honestly. it's like playing the game on auto pilot
When they see MC Probe, all the ladies disrobe.
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
April 21 2012 02:02 GMT
#6307
I love the homage to Golden Axe. Anyone that played that game will know what I am talking about
jeeeeohn
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States1343 Posts
April 21 2012 02:32 GMT
#6308
Got to level 5 on my Witchdoctor, not sure why people think he's weak early game. You just have to snare everything and make sure you keep spiders and dogs up.

Other than that, was never really a huge fan of Diablo for whatever reason. It's great fun, but I don't think I'll blow 60 bucks on it. If anything I'll just get Diablo 2 for like 20.
If you can't jam with the best, then you have to slam with the rest.
pellejohnson
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1931 Posts
April 21 2012 02:34 GMT
#6309
The absolutely worst part with D3 is the change to the skill system. Did they really have to dumb it down this much? I mean it feels so wrong not really having any choice leveling up, feels like everything is auto, what skills you get, what stats go up and the runes. What happened to actually tweaking your character using different builds? What happened to the amazing discussions whether this extra point in this skill over that other skill was worth it or not.

No sorry but I can't say I'm too pleased with these changes, also the max players = 4 is terrible considering that I have a group of 5 friends who would love to play together but right now one of us have to skip playing every single session...
EienShinwa
Profile Joined May 2010
United States655 Posts
April 21 2012 03:05 GMT
#6310
Game seems alright. The constant disconnects, errors, and crashes is fucking annoying though. And you'd think there would be less crashes and errors as the game release date is less than a month but no. >_> C'mon Blizzard.
I have a simple philosophy: Fill what's empty. Empty what's full. Scratch where it itches. Alice Roosevelt Longworth
rezoacken
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2719 Posts
April 21 2012 03:14 GMT
#6311
On April 21 2012 12:05 EienShinwa wrote:
Game seems alright. The constant disconnects, errors, and crashes is fucking annoying though. And you'd think there would be less crashes and errors as the game release date is less than a month but no. >_> C'mon Blizzard.


The game itself is stable. The servers aren't though, that's why you are helping them fix it now.

Maybe they also underestimated the load too who knows.
Either we are alone in the Universe or we are not. Both are equally terrifying.
mcmartini
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Australia1972 Posts
April 21 2012 03:22 GMT
#6312
So during open beta just did a run through as the witch dr. why can I not attack with my weapon of choice. For instance I cant use my dagger :/ Why? It says that it begins being used when low on mana, so whats the point in having a hand weapon altogether besides the stats doesn't it impact my skills in anyway?
I just want to say I have 370 APM - Liquid'Tyler SotG 14-12-2011 "I mean it's too bad you can't be paid to be, you know, a chicken shit fucking whiny bitch on the internet or we would have lots of rich community members" Nick "Tasteless" Plott
TheRealPaciFist
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1049 Posts
April 21 2012 04:40 GMT
#6313
How do you assign skills to a category they're not listed under?
Second favorite strategy game of all time: Starcraft. First: Go (aka Wei Qi, Paduk, or Igo)
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
April 21 2012 04:42 GMT
#6314
Turn on elective mode in options.
TheRealPaciFist
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1049 Posts
April 21 2012 04:52 GMT
#6315
Thanks!

That was... so intuitive -.-
Second favorite strategy game of all time: Starcraft. First: Go (aka Wei Qi, Paduk, or Igo)
Medzo
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States627 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-21 05:02:02
April 21 2012 05:01 GMT
#6316
On April 21 2012 12:22 mcmartini wrote:so whats the point in having a hand weapon altogether besides the stats doesn't it impact my skills in anyway?


All damage, including spells, is weapon based.

On April 21 2012 13:52 TheRealPaciFist wrote:
That was... so intuitive -.-


Agreed. Cant understand why they are going this way with the UI.
Esoterikk
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada1256 Posts
April 21 2012 06:56 GMT
#6317
Not enjoying the skill system at all, I don't need the game to play for me tbh :S
pedduck
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Thailand468 Posts
April 21 2012 07:43 GMT
#6318
Just finished my first run. Server is stable and i don't get any disconnect the whole 3-4 hours of the my play. The game is too short too judge anything but my guess would be it is going to be like sc2. Hardcore fan will complain, casual player will finish the game once and leave. the game will not be a legend like diablo 2
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
April 21 2012 07:54 GMT
#6319
On April 21 2012 14:01 Medzo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2012 12:22 mcmartini wrote:so whats the point in having a hand weapon altogether besides the stats doesn't it impact my skills in anyway?


All damage, including spells, is weapon based.

Show nested quote +
On April 21 2012 13:52 TheRealPaciFist wrote:
That was... so intuitive -.-


Agreed. Cant understand why they are going this way with the UI.

wtf? really? it didn't say that anywhere in spell descriptions. Actually spell descriptions are crap, I got no clue what is their exact damage and that is irritating.
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
April 21 2012 08:00 GMT
#6320
As far as the game quality in my opinion game mechanics are crap, but gameplay itself is strangly satisfiying. But I had the same experience with Skyrim and that game became less fun more I played it.

Interesting, Path of Exile has great mechanics but much less fun gameplay then D3. I want a hybrid of those two games
Prev 1 314 315 316 317 318 1109 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 1h 46m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
PiGStarcraft513
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 6215
Bisu 2714
ggaemo 309
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm205
League of Legends
Doublelift3990
JimRising 534
Counter-Strike
summit1g8431
Fnx 679
minikerr79
Other Games
gofns17939
C9.Mang0582
XaKoH 276
JuggernautJason225
WinterStarcraft95
Mew2King94
ViBE90
Livibee78
ROOTCatZ67
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1039
BasetradeTV59
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• davetesta25
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• RayReign 46
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota21556
Upcoming Events
Afreeca Starleague
1h 46m
RSL Revival
6h 46m
Clem vs Serral
herO vs Rogue
WardiTV Summer Champion…
9h 46m
WardiTV Weekly
1d 8h
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
PiGosaur Cup
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Kung Fu Cup
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
The PondCast
4 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
4 days
IntoTheTV X SOOP
5 days
RSL Revival
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

ASL Season 22: Qualifier #1
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale

Ongoing

CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
ASL Season 22: Qualifier #2
K-JUNGMAN
RSL Revival: Season 6
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026

Upcoming

Acropolis #5
Escore Tournament S3: W6
Escore Tournament S3: W7
CSLAN 4
ASL Season 22
Escore Tournament S3: W8
Acropolis #5 - TRS
HSC XXX
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
PiG Sty Festival 8.0
Thunderpick World Champ.
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
Logitech G Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.