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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
October 18 2010 23:01 GMT
#25161
Probably because Chalice is a terrible item for the slot that it takes up.
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gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-18 23:06:19
October 18 2010 23:04 GMT
#25162
i realize that it's bad on nearly everyone but honestly i think it has potential on tank swain. sell it later for 600 gold or whatever and red+blue pot for lategame when you've got enough natural mana regen. gonna try it in a real game

also i'm thinking ghost+cleanse on him so if you get CC'd running in with ult you can cleanse and pop zhonya+randuin
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
Scamp
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
October 18 2010 23:05 GMT
#25163
You can always sell it later if you need the slot for something bigger. Games shouldn't go on that long, though.
Cheese is good for you!
barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
October 18 2010 23:05 GMT
#25164
only hero i see who chalice is even 'okish' on is galio. And i rarely get it on him anyways since i farm for too long for it to be worth it.
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
October 18 2010 23:06 GMT
#25165
For the gold, you can buy 2 doran's rings, have most of the time the same regen, plus 20 ap, and some hp
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gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
October 18 2010 23:07 GMT
#25166
On October 19 2010 08:05 barbsq wrote:
only hero i see who chalice is even 'okish' on is galio. And i rarely get it on him anyways since i farm for too long for it to be worth it.


i used to think it was worth it on galio but it really isn't cause with yellow mp5/level at level 5 you'll always have enough to double nuke the ranged creeps.


On October 19 2010 08:06 Phrost wrote:
For the gold, you can buy 2 doran's rings, have most of the time the same regen, plus 20 ap, and some hp


on any other champ yes. on level 6 swaim with ultspam no, plus you want the mres. ap is worthless on swaim
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
October 18 2010 23:12 GMT
#25167
On October 19 2010 07:48 gtrsrs wrote:
can someone explain why chalice isn't core on swaim? building him tanky, chalice + mercs gives good early MRes, you'll always be near full mana to toggle ult every creepwave, and the +100% + 250% bonus when you run out and kill a creep gives you like 150+ mp5/level for 4 seconds... which puts you at half-full mana in a matter of seconds, and that's enough to sustain your ult for another creepwave.

Doesn't Swain's passive say "base mana regeneration", meaning it won't multiply any other sources of mp5?
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eNbee
Profile Joined July 2010
Belgium487 Posts
October 18 2010 23:19 GMT
#25168
On October 18 2010 19:38 Iplaythings wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2010 19:37 NeoIllusions wrote:
On October 18 2010 19:33 Iplaythings wrote:
On October 18 2010 19:26 NeoIllusions wrote:
On October 18 2010 19:24 Iplaythings wrote:
On October 18 2010 19:14 eNbee wrote:
On October 18 2010 17:15 Iplaythings wrote:
http://clgaming.net/index.php?page=livestream

CLG inhouse game incoming.

Gonna be good to watch O_O


You're so fucking bm it's unreal, arrogance to the max.

Who, what, me? What the hell are you talking about?


He's probably talking about HotShot. HS ended the game saying his teammates were terrible and that 1500 elo players would make better allies. rofl

Second game? or firstgame?

I think he'd be joking around seriously...


Second game. His team did play pretty bad. zzoda on Shen never ulti'ed to save anyone. Lilac on Warwick hardly ganked, etc.

ohh right, didnt watch it soo.

But I think that belgium guy thinks that I streamed this lol, funny stuff


Idd, my bad, still mad bm though by hotshot
hmmmm
Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
October 18 2010 23:40 GMT
#25169
I like jax personally, he does AP carry damage which is unique in this game besides malzahar and thats about it. You just afk farm with him like tryn except you can provide a bit of utility in teamfights with stun and stuff

Although I feel mundo does everything jax does 500x better on SR
Brees on in
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
October 18 2010 23:53 GMT
#25170
On October 19 2010 08:12 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2010 07:48 gtrsrs wrote:
can someone explain why chalice isn't core on swaim? building him tanky, chalice + mercs gives good early MRes, you'll always be near full mana to toggle ult every creepwave, and the +100% + 250% bonus when you run out and kill a creep gives you like 150+ mp5/level for 4 seconds... which puts you at half-full mana in a matter of seconds, and that's enough to sustain your ult for another creepwave.

Doesn't Swain's passive say "base mana regeneration", meaning it won't multiply any other sources of mp5?

it doesnt i dont think, i had like 90 mp5 with golem and his passive activated and only gave me 110 total so i think its just natural or whatever
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
STS17
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1817 Posts
October 19 2010 00:07 GMT
#25171
I just finished getting flamed for going 5-6-1 on AP Miss fortune (highest kills on team) because I didnt go AD.

Team comp was:

Warmog's first Morde
AD Yi
Twitch
Soraka
Me

My logic was split up the damage types so armor wouldnt shut the whole team down but no the entire loss is my fault for not being able to hit as hard as their crit plank.

I hate idiots
Platinum Level Terran - Take my advice from that perspective
STS17
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1817 Posts
October 19 2010 00:11 GMT
#25172
In response to the previous page on Swain:

I've been building him tanky, rushing Zhonya's then Spirit Visage then pretty much only tank items. Your role with this build is the initiator. Walk in, ult active, and soak up a bunch of stuff, then cleanse and zhonya's to heal back to full and come out of the cycle with all your cooldowns refreshed.

So far it's worked out very well for me
Platinum Level Terran - Take my advice from that perspective
red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
October 19 2010 00:15 GMT
#25173
On October 19 2010 09:07 STS17 wrote:
I just finished getting flamed for going 5-6-1 on AP Miss fortune (highest kills on team) because I didnt go AD.

Team comp was:

Warmog's first Morde
AD Yi
Twitch
Soraka
Me

My logic was split up the damage types so armor wouldnt shut the whole team down but no the entire loss is my fault for not being able to hit as hard as their crit plank.

I hate idiots


Not sure if serious? AP MF is about as troll as it gets, splitting up damage sources or not.
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
DefMatrixUltra
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada1992 Posts
October 19 2010 00:20 GMT
#25174
On October 19 2010 09:15 red_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2010 09:07 STS17 wrote:
I just finished getting flamed for going 5-6-1 on AP Miss fortune (highest kills on team) because I didnt go AD.

Team comp was:

Warmog's first Morde
AD Yi
Twitch
Soraka
Me

My logic was split up the damage types so armor wouldnt shut the whole team down but no the entire loss is my fault for not being able to hit as hard as their crit plank.

I hate idiots


Not sure if serious? AP MF is about as troll as it gets, splitting up damage sources or not.


Reminds me of the guy complaining about a Corki in his game who went AP for the same reason ("we have no AP champs, if I don't go AP we'll lose!").
Chrispy
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada5878 Posts
October 19 2010 00:29 GMT
#25175
On October 19 2010 07:08 Southlight wrote:
Who's VallikUA?


Hahaha.

He was on the other team in one of our troll games vs randoms. He added me too. Is he saying a bunch of random stuff to you too?

Also, having a page full of defeats is not demoralizing in the least. Nope!
Retvrn to Forvms
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
October 19 2010 00:42 GMT
#25176
On October 19 2010 09:07 STS17 wrote:
I just finished getting flamed for going 5-6-1 on AP Miss fortune (highest kills on team) because I didnt go AD.

Team comp was:

Warmog's first Morde
AD Yi
Twitch
Soraka
Me

My logic was split up the damage types so armor wouldnt shut the whole team down but no the entire loss is my fault for not being able to hit as hard as their crit plank.

I hate idiots

Umm, mf's ult does magic damage. Soo even if you get shut down with armor after that (not likely since a ie still hits hella hard after armor), you still are going to do a ton of damage to their entire team.

So ya, they were kinda right to flame ya.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
TieN.nS)
Profile Joined August 2003
United States2131 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-19 00:46:20
October 19 2010 00:45 GMT
#25177
Well obviously going Bloodrazor's would be the better choice to diversify damage, so STS17 is a troll confirmed~
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
October 19 2010 00:47 GMT
#25178
Not a troll, just misinformed.
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UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
October 19 2010 00:51 GMT
#25179
On October 19 2010 09:07 STS17 wrote:
I just finished getting flamed for going 5-6-1 on AP Miss fortune (highest kills on team) because I didnt go AD.

Team comp was:

Warmog's first Morde
AD Yi
Twitch
Soraka
Me

My logic was split up the damage types so armor wouldnt shut the whole team down but no the entire loss is my fault for not being able to hit as hard as their crit plank.

I hate idiots


haha, wow.

I was in a pug the other day we lost because mf (our only carryish hero) went ap and they just ground us out late game. Ap mf is fucking AWFUL. She was like "my rain does soooo much damage"... it didn't... if I'd have been in that game with you I'd have talked shit as well.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
October 19 2010 00:55 GMT
#25180
On October 19 2010 09:45 TieN.nS) wrote:
Well obviously going Bloodrazor's would be the better choice to diversify damage, so STS17 is a troll confirmed~

Bloodrazors is probably one of the worst items for MF to get because it doesn't add damage to your ult.
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