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United States2116 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-30 23:53:44
October 29 2008 07:32 GMT
#1
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Thanks to Xeofreestyler!

“Who are the five best rappers of all time? Think about it… Dylan. Dylan. Dylan, Dylan and Dylan. Because I spit hot fire!”
-Dylan, The Five Best Rappers of All Time

I Spit Hot Fire
By Sp1ralArch1tect
TeamLiquid: Final Edits


I am a fanatic when it comes to my favorite comedian Dave Chappelle and the show that shares his name, so when I watch this skit naturally I laugh my ass off but these days I am reminded of something else. Both of them have something in common, an unquenchable thirst for their name to be heard. They both strive to achieve something that they never will, but in the end at least one of them found a way there.


Two years ago I had no idea who Lee Sung Eun was, I knew that his nickname was FireBatHero and I found it highly unoriginal, therefore he was an outcast in my Brood War Black Book. He had some interesting games against the likes of oov, Pusan and July, but he was just another mediocre Terran pulling himself through the leagues. Today things have changed a little bit, I know more about FireBatHero than I did then, and I still know that FBH sucks just as bad today. So you may be asking yourself “Why would anyone bother to write anything about a second rate Terran?” I know I asked myself quite a few times before setting out on this venture.

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The calm before the storm

If FireBatHero had reached his peak any earlier than now he may not have even had a chance, his style would have been frowned upon just three years ago. Thanks to players like Zeus and the Emperor doing very mild ceremonies and breaking the fans in, FBH found his niche. Savior partook in the gloating with his slight neck rolls and superior attitude. Boxer did ceremonies for his fans not to humiliate his opponent or bolster his own confidence; the girls would swoon under his slight hand gesture or all too common salute (after his arrival at ACE). From Savior to Boxer, from Zeus to NaDa everyone had their own little ceremony, but none of them could spit hot fire like Lee Sung Eun.

“I am number one
Don't matter if ya like it, herr take it, sit down and write it
I am number one, eh eh eh eh eh eh
Tell me now
What does it take to be number one
Two is not a winner and three nobody remembers, tell me
What does it take to be number one, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh”
Nelly – Number 1

I can easily imagine Boxer spitting that first line, “I am number one!” He has earned the right to call himself number one. His peers are few but they as well deserve that title, NaDa, Garimto, Savior and oov followed the same path to glory. Now they are either a shadow of what they were or retired, but nonetheless they are number one. One of my favorite players, Yellow, is well known for not being a winner. Along with Stork you could probably pave the streets of Korea with the amount of silver produced. This is where my heart lies in StarCraft, “Two is not a winner…” I am easily captivated by the proverbial dunce that can never quite make it. But where does Lee Sung Eun fall in this equation? He is not a winner. He is not even number Two. Despite that he is not somebody to be forgotten, FireBatHero is someone who no one can forget.

FireBatHero fell into a class apart from the rest of his generation, he stood where many had fallen and he did so while maintaining a meager professional record. Lee Sung Eun is a business man, and business is good.

Gettin made the FBH way

FireBatHero is best known for his total and utter destruction of Savior in the second season of the GOMTVMSL, I would like to say it was a good set, but given the circumstances… well you know. Even now he makes quick work of the Maestro, in their individual games and their Proleague games he leads the series, a five game lead over Saviors meek pair of wins. His overall win rate is 55%, which again proves that he has mediocre skills. His mirror matchup(63.49%) and his vZ(63.64%) aren’t bad at all, though you can account quite a few of those wins to the Maestro himself. His TvP has always been horrendous, with a win rate of 37% it’s no question as to where his weakness lies. He has no individual titles to his name, not even a second place finish. Though he is definitely a staple of the KAHN Proleague team he has little to claim as his own if you look purely at the stats.

Who knows when or how he realized it but Sung Eun had to do something or he was going to fade away into obscurity. Eventually he asked himself “Who are the five greatest pro gamers in the world? FireBatHero. FireBatHero. FireBatHero, FireBatHero and FireBatHero”.

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FireBatHero. FireBatHero. FireBatHero, FireBatHero and...

Like Nelly said, two is not a winner and three no one remembers. But what about FBH in his unlabeled category? Well I guess by all rights Lee Sung Eun belongs in the last category. But by some crazy chance this kid has pounded the thought that he is number one into the heads of thousands of Star Craft fans, he just keeps saying it over and over and over. Nelly never accounted for the persistence and sheer force of will that is FireBatHero.

After losing 3-2 against FBH himself, the Maestro cast his eyes to the ground, his face took on a sullen and pale look which had rarely been seen by his loyal fans. He looked like someone had just told him his dog had been run over by a car, on the verge of tears, his situation was bad. It must have hurt even worse when he saw FireBatHero calmly push himself away from his keyboard, remove his headphones, stand up and begin to trot around him while pumping his fist in the air. The dance was crude, practically some sort of seizure, but it got the point across. Savior had been defeated with ease by an opponent who could hardly call himself a peer of oov or NaDa, both of whom the Maestro had defeated previously. If FireBatHero had packed his things and walked off stage that day he may have never had the chance to become the polarizing figure he is now. Fortunately for everyone he danced his way into a place in pro gaming history.

Playa Hating

The reaction from the foreign community was violent; people were professing their love or hatred of FBH left and right, but the majority found his actions to be unwanted and unnecessary in the high class world of Korean e-Sports. I am sure many contemplated some sort of assassination when they saw his ridiculous dancing, and even more so when the Maestro slumped his shoulders so. Other shouted his glorious victories from the rooftops, anxiously awaiting his next victory which would be undoubtedly followed by his fantastic ceremonies. Whichever side of the line you lay on didn’t matter, the day after FBH completely raped Savior everyone was chit chatting about his ceremony, everyone had their eyes fixed on his retarded dance moves. Hate him or love him, everybody that follows the professional StarCraft scene knows the name of FireBatHero.

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"Do I look like I care?"

The way I see it that particular dance he did against Ma Jae Yoon was a significant event. He didn’t win anything, but that day FBH helped to stave off the coming stagnant air in Korea. Savior had dominated everyone at the time; Boxer was in the Air Force. Things were changing rapidly towards a boring scene, cookie cutters were coming up through the ranks, players with no charisma, no style. At the same time so many of the old favorites were beginning to hit their golden years. There was a definite loss of character in pro gaming overall, even now Flash is a silent killer who rarely shows emotion. FireBatHero isn’t going to become the most dominant player right now, or ever for that matter, but he found a way around it. He has become the character of pro gaming that everyone will pay attention too; he doesn’t care if the attention is negative or positive. As long as you’re looking.

The Evolution of Dance

The first time FireBatHero danced it was a joke, as I have mentioned before the kid had no skill whatsoever. Since then you could say that he has evolved to a more “rhythmic” dancer, his hips actually move in sync with his arms these days. From the simple romp at Pusan to the elaborate mockery of Savior two days before their MSL match, FireBatHero has become the most interesting player outside of the game. Here is the original dance which started it all.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDLPQiboykY&feature=related


Fate stepped in after that and Savior went into one of the most depressing slumps in pro gaming history. With his confidence shattered at the hands of players like FireBatHero Savior struggled to come back, all the while FBH had his foot on Saviors head holding it in the dirt. FBH was relentless in his taunting of Savior at the group selections for the MSL in May this year. After taunting Savior by adding him to his group as an “auto-win”, which is especially insulting considering not six months ago no one could have called Savior out like that. He then turned around and did something that nobody expected.


The Letter to Savior
The Letter: Translated by Nevergg[spoiler]

In this week's issue of KHgames newspaper in the small letters section where progamers write to each other Firebathero (Lee Sungeun) wrote to Savior (Ma Jaeyoon). My assistant and I translated the article tonight.

재윤선수, 안녕하세요,
Jaeyoon, hello,

우와, 이거 되게 어색하네요. 우리 서로 동갑인데 한 번도 말을 놓은 적이 없으니까 말입니다.
Wow it's really awkward;; we are same age and we never spoke casually.

남자들끼리 이런 편지 쓰는 것도 어색한데...그렇죠? ^^;;
A letter between men, how weird... right?? ^^;;

사실 누구한테 편지를 쓸까하다가 재윤선수가 제일 먼저 떠올랐어요.
To be honest, I didn't know who to write to, and MJY came up into my mind first-_-

생각해보니 우리 둘이서 이리 저리 사연(?)이 많았더라고요.
Come to think of it, there were a lot of stories(or events?) between you and me.

조지명식에서 서로 도발도 하고 말이죠.
We provoked each other at the group selection ceremony.

주로 제가 먼저 그런 말들을 던져서 당시는 재윤 선수가 기분 나빴을 수도 있있일 것 같다는 생각이 드네요.
더욱이 별로 친하지도 않은데 말이죠.
I realized that I may have made you feel bad because it was always me who started provoking.

제가 은근히 소심한 평이거든요.
Knowing we are not that close to each other,
well, I'm a timid person.

주변에서 재윤이 괜찮다 고 하다더라는 말을 들어도 내심 마음에 걸렸있으니까요.
People around told me how nice a person you are, and I felt bad.

신인 때 한 번 모 잡지 찰영에서 재윤 선수를 처음 만났어요.
When I was a rookie, I first met you from magazine shooting.

그때부터 친해지고 싶다는 생각을 했었는데 은근히 커리어차이가 나다보니 섣불리 말을 못 걸겠더라고요.
진짜 소심한 거 맞죠? ㅋㅋ
From that day, I've always thought of becoming friends, but because of the career difference between you and me, I found it difficult talking to you.
Really timid huh?
keke

가끔 경기장에서 만나도 인사 외에는 별달리 말도 못 붙여서 그동안 그렇게 둘이 대결을 많이 했는데도 친할 수 있는 게기가 별로 없었던 같아요.
그동안 언빦았 던 부분이 있다면 사과하고 싶은 마음이랍니다.
Even when we meet from games, and even with our many show downs between us, we only got to say hello, and that's why I think we couldn't get closer.

그리고 멋진 동료 사이가 됐으면 좋겠어요.
If you ever felt offended or made you feel bad, I only want to apologize for what I've done to you.
and I hope we can become a great associates.

만약답장을 받게 된다면 강렬하게 반말로 써주세요.
If I ever get a reply, I strongly suggest you to use the casual language,
^^;; then BYE!


Lee Sung Eun turned right around and wrote this heartfelt letter to his bitter opponent. Reading the intent behind this was very difficult at the time and even now I wonder what FBH was really thinking as he wrote it. He told Savior how he wanted to become friends with him and had ever since he had first started his own path as a pro gamer. Certainly FBH could have been sincere with all the talk about how timid he felt around the Maestro, certainly he could have been using this as a way to gain attention. Either way Sung Eun accomplished his goal by getting his name out there at least one more time. The way he acted in their next few matches spoke for him in regards to his intent.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qb2CU6A7uZ0

FireBatHero did not let up at all as just a short while later he defeated Savior in the CJ vs. KHAN Proleauge match, two days before the MSL. After apologizing for his behavior in the group selection ceremonies, professing his admiration for Savior and practically begging him to become friends in a supposedly heartfelt letter. He then went on to stomp on everything he said in that letter with a new ceremony. Why? Because FBH is a sadistic person who loves to rub peoples noses in the dirt? Well maybe, but I think he did it because he had to. Because FBH had to do it otherwise he would be just another KHAN team member again and there is no way Sung Eun is going to let that happen.

While destroying Savior was his in to the pro gaming scene he had to somehow perpetuate without Savior. Here is where he becomes the polarizing figure that he is today. FireBatHero evolved from the destroyer of Savior to the comic relief of pro gaming, a valuable member of the living being that is the Korean pro gaming scene. Without FBH we could be in a completely different situation right now, whether his absence would be good or bad is debatable, but he definitely made a big impact. With his name in the ears and mouths of the Brood War world FireBatHero had finally become something.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwhcJiOX4ck&feature=related

Beyond his own goals lie those of his team which FireBatHero has helped to become one of the most dominant set of players in Proleague history. Once again despite his mediocre play FireBatHero has helped to maintain a winning atmosphere amongst his teammates, bolstering their confidence with his ceremonies along with his own. Without him they would still be the same when it comes to raw talent but they would lack something that is important to a championship team, character. Even the silent Stork will crack a smile for his goofy teammate, in fact there isn’t a single person on the entire KHAN bench who could keep a straight face. His role is important to the KHAN dynamic which has proven to be very effective, not to mention he has always performed much better in Proleague than individuals.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eawRIYwSgFY

Even when things go wrong for FBH he still tries to use it to his advantage. The above video shows the infamous pylon heart which Much built after defeating FireBatHero. It was meant as an insult to FireBatHero and payback for his disgrace of Savior, most players would have taken it as such. But Sung Eun took it in stride and awaited his chance to one up Much’s' interesting new style of ceremony. Then his chance came.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wH8BoL21yPA

FBH and free[gm] were playing the Proleague Two vs. Two All-stars against Upmagic and nbs[gm]. As it become apparent that FBH and free were about to lose Sung Eun created his own supply depot heart inside of his base, coming full circle against Much by humiliating himself. Free then joined him in a ceremony after their loss, which he was clearly prepared for. Even when the man is losing or has lost he holds his head high and tries to keep a good face on it. But he has a human side just like everyone else which he rarely shows, or at least tries his hardest not to.

The Fairy Tale Comes True?

Sometimes there is a series of events which hardly make sense to an observer of the Korean StarCraft leagues, and right now one such event is taking place in the Clubday Online MSL. With one of the most dismal Protoss vs. Terran records ever seen in professional StarCraft FireBatHero should fear the Protoss race, and up until recently he did. In the group selection stages of the current MSL once again FBH was spitting hot fire left and right by putting himself in a group with two Protoss players. Insanity? Maybe. It gets worse, he then begs top seed Much to put Bisu in the same group to make it three Protoss and he the lone Terran. Practically suicide for any normal pro gamer, but FireBathero is no normal pro gamer.

Whatever was going through Sung Euns head that day must have been something very strong because logically there was no way FBH could put results up against this group. Much, Bisu and Backho stood between him and another chance at a title of his own, three of the best Protoss players around (well maybe two) not to mention the architect of the famous pylon heart ceremony. What madness could have driven FBH to put himself into his own personal group of death? I think he put it best when he said this at the group selection.


"To be honest, I'm not that great at TvP. I will admit, I'm not confident in my broadcasted TvP's either. However, I know in order for me be the next champion this is an obstacle I need to face. If I lose, I agree, I'm not champion material... yet. But if I win, you and I both know that I can be/will be the next champion. So Much[gm]. Bring in the Protoss!"

- FireBatHero to Much[gm] at MSL group selection.

Boldly he went where he had never gone before but this time something was different about him, this time he seemed more confident than even he should be. FireBatHero topped his own ridiculous ego by taunting his own demons in TvP and when the time came to put up or shut up? 2-0. FireBatHero defeated both Much and Bisu to advance from his group stunning every hater across the world, and giving his fans a glimpse at the new improved FBH. You could call it a fluke I guess if it weren't for his victory over another Protoss in the Ro16, 2-0 once again. From the start this MSL looked to be a FBH graveyard but now he has turned it into a graveyard for his opponents, every one of them Protoss.

Now he and NaDa are the only Terrans left in the Ro8 accompanied by a lone Zerg and five Protoss players. Once again imagining FireBatHero coming out of this MSL on top, or even with a podium finish should be a dream only and not a reality. By some odd aligning of the stars FBH has taken his worst matchup and completely turned it around this MSL. Next week he will have to face SKT powerhouse Bisu, another Protoss in his path to glory! He will have to gather his wits once again as he goes to face an opponent he nearly eliminated from the MSL, an opponent who has got to be bitter after losing to a former TvP retard. If he defeats him he will have to face another Protoss or NaDa in the semi finals and three more warrios of Aiur are vying for a spot in the finals. Welcome to FireBatHeros nightmare turned into a dream.

Fulfilling the Dream

As I now come to the end of this article I am not sure how to end it, how does one end an ongoing story? I don't know. What I do know is that FireBatHero has gone from a player who I would have thought of as a B team guy to a name, no an entity, which is constantly on the minds of StarCraft fans. He huffed and puffed his chest with all his might in the hopes that those very people would someday utter his name and now he has reached that goal.

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Back in 2005 when he said "My TvP will improve with time."

When he began his path to glory he was nothing more than a fan of StarCraft himself, like many of us, he looked up to the giants of the day. Now he stands in the same arena as those players with his head held high and his hips thrusting into the air to proclaim his dominance of yet another FBH hater. His story is one of the most interesting in pro gaming to me as he was never the "bonjwa" or the Boxer, he was never a silver medalist or an innovator of a matchup. He wasn't anything until he danced that day against Savior. I still wonder how he managed to work his way into the hearts of pro gaming fans everywhere, and probably until the day I die this question will vex me.

While we wait quietly for the next "bonjwa" to step up (if one ever does) I am content to watch FireBatHero for my post game drama and a good laugh. But I will also watch him even closer now as his story comes closer and closer to the conclusion he wants. A Champion.


Credits
Thanks to Xeofreestyler for the main image. I love it.
Thanks to nevergg and infinity21 for translations of the two FBH interviews mentioned.
Thanks to FConnectionUK for translating the Battle.net Attack and Group Selection.
Thanks to those you who read this far!
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
October 29 2008 07:46 GMT
#2
FBH is a great guy, behind the superstar lies a genuine person who appreciates his team mates and knows his place in the scene. After he lost in GOM to bogus he went up to and congratulated him - bogus is only 15, imagine what those kind of complements mean to a kid his age? FBH is a great guy and i hope he wins this msl!
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
NeverGG *
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom5399 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-29 08:09:11
October 29 2008 07:54 GMT
#3
An awesome read - I wanted to point something out about the KH Games newspaper article which might explain why Sung Eun went back to his Savior stomping ways so quickly. Normally when one progamer writes to another for KH in the next issue that progamer will write back. I've seen this format carried on over several months with no differences - however, Savior didn't write back to Sung Eun.

Also having known Sung Eun since last year now both as a fan and a photographer nowadays (November) I can honestly say that he's a genuinely kind and funny guy who will do anything for his fans and has helped me to do all the Khan photoshoots I shared here earlier in the year. He's definitely got an exhibitionist streak and maybe he didn't pick the most appropriate target for his dancing skills, but I enjoy seeing his games and ceremonies because as you said a lot of the new faces on the scene are lacking in strong personalities/memorable things beyond their actual gaming style - FBH has polarized the scene and I've met very few people who are apathetic to his antics.

우리 행운의 모양은 여러개지만 행복의 모양은 하나
HonestTea *
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
5007 Posts
October 29 2008 08:02 GMT
#4
BECAUSE MC STANDS FOR MASTER OF CEREMONIES, LUV
returns upon momentous occasions.
Vivi57
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States6599 Posts
October 29 2008 08:10 GMT
#5
I love it.

The need for a champion with personality called for in "To Bolt is to Boxer" is finally going to appear in firebathero, the most unlikely of sources.

I believed in flash as he went through and won the osl. Now, I'm going to believe in fbh as he bashes his way to his first msl title.
Flash hwaiting! Nal_rA forever!
CDRdude
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States5625 Posts
October 29 2008 08:13 GMT
#6
I have mixed feelings about FBH. On the one hand, savior. On the other hand, his ceremonies are really funny when they aren't against savior. Nice writeup anyway.
Force staff is the best item in the game.
Mikilatov
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States3897 Posts
October 29 2008 08:21 GMT
#7
Fantastic read. I really can't bring myself to like FBH though, and I'm not really a huge Savior fan either. (ohno!) Having fun is one thing, but trying to make a name for yourself at the expense of others will always bother me. I can't imagine how shitty that made Savior feel after going from being the best to being danced around by a second-rate Terran. It's funny, yeah, and celebration is fine, but when it's putting your opponent down it's really lame in my eyes.
♥ I used to lasso the shit out of your tournaments =( ♥ | Much is my hero. | zizi yO~ | Be Nice, TL.
jkillashark
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States5262 Posts
October 29 2008 08:21 GMT
#8
If FBH wins this MSL I think I will stop following eSports. Maybe.
Do your best, God will do the rest.
LosingID8
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
CA10828 Posts
October 29 2008 08:25 GMT
#9
excellent, i love fbh!
ModeratorResident K-POP Elitist
MuShu
Profile Joined March 2005
United States3223 Posts
October 29 2008 08:30 GMT
#10
haha, you just made a fan out of me
hymn
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Bulgaria832 Posts
October 29 2008 08:32 GMT
#11
Imagine Stork vs FBH MSL final. I am sure KHAN's coach will tell FBH to lose so Stork will have a title.

Great article btw!
azk he is the north american player but the titan he is the french stars
nobodyhome
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
United States139 Posts
October 29 2008 08:38 GMT
#12
I definitely would feel less dislike for FBH if it weren't for that time during the Lecaf/Samsung final when he cried after he lost. If he knows that people can get that emotionally invested in a match, why doesn't he understand that doing ridiculous ceremonies just makes the situation worse for the loser? Imagine how he would feel if as he was crying, the winner danced around him and pumped his crotch like no other. Now cut to the FBH/Savior series, where Savior was already starting to fall into a slump and would've wanted nothing more than to advance. Same deal.

Making a name out of yourself by theatricals is fine and all, but to do it at someone else's expense is questionable.
bm
FaZ-
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States187 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-29 11:35:29
October 29 2008 10:02 GMT
#13
Good read, but I'll never like him; the polarization aspect is certainly true.

Putting any player with Savior's credentials down is just the ultimate form of novice disrespect.
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
October 29 2008 10:13 GMT
#14
and yet the "yawn rape" is a classic savior moment
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polarwolf
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
924 Posts
October 29 2008 10:27 GMT
#15
firebathero is my personal hero, i love this guy sooo much!
nezera
Profile Joined March 2008
Indonesia176 Posts
October 29 2008 10:36 GMT
#16
well...FBH just "didnt care" about anything...fantastic player...
FBH for MSL
proA.June91
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Vietnam445 Posts
October 29 2008 10:45 GMT
#17
omg
fine read as hell :D
you rock, Sp1ralArch1tect
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Fish_Baguettes
Profile Joined March 2008
Australia589 Posts
October 29 2008 11:27 GMT
#18
This was a very very very very very very very good read. Funny yet informative, FBH is so awesome.
SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
October 29 2008 11:34 GMT
#19
Wow, as a FBH fan, I really like this article, Go go fbh!!
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Orome
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Switzerland11984 Posts
October 29 2008 11:58 GMT
#20
Since when is FBH mediocre? Come on, I can't stand the guy, but he's definitely not a second rate Terran.
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ZhenMiChan
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Netherlands1181 Posts
October 29 2008 12:03 GMT
#21
attention whore lol?




great article will read again ( on school or sumthin )
Studying Chinese~
d(O.o)a
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada5066 Posts
October 29 2008 12:12 GMT
#22
Very well summed up. When I first saw FBH's ceremony against Savior I was appalled however I have grown to like his ceremonies and I enjoy his flashy attitude.
Hi.
Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
October 29 2008 12:26 GMT
#23
FBH has always been my favorite terran after Boxer!

FBH FIGHTING!
Lim Yo Hwan forever!
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
October 29 2008 12:50 GMT
#24
Great article on a great player. FBH Winning MSL is a dream. I wonder how many hours would his ceremony dance last for if it really happened!?
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
o3.power91
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Bahrain5288 Posts
October 29 2008 12:54 GMT
#25
I first heard of FireBatHero after he beat Savior in that 1 hour game on python. I watched the VOD and instantly became his fan. As time passed and FBH made more ridiculous ceremonies, I started to hate him. Recently though I started to like him again. Now he's easily my favorite player. FBH FOR MSL!!!
Xeofreestyler
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
Belgium6771 Posts
October 29 2008 13:04 GMT
#26
Great article spiral!

Glad to see the banner being put to good use
Graphics
baubo
Profile Joined September 2008
China3370 Posts
October 29 2008 13:20 GMT
#27
I think FBH's effect on the Khan team should not be underestimated. I think he really pumps up his team, which is important because let's not forget, these are TEENAGERS playing here. One cannot underestimate the mental aspect of the game because these are kids, not mature adults, playing for really high stakes.

On October 29 2008 20:58 Orome wrote:
Since when is FBH mediocre? Come on, I can't stand the guy, but he's definitely not a second rate Terran.


Before this season, he was definitely 2nd rate. His incredible TvT and TvZ was more than offset by his horrible, and I mean horrible TvP.

Meh
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
October 29 2008 13:25 GMT
#28
Aww, you totally overshadowed my article.

Fantastic write-p though. 5/5
RIP Aaliyah
_Grazze_
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
834 Posts
October 29 2008 14:24 GMT
#29
Nice article
-slo.m1ke-
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Slovenia352 Posts
October 29 2008 14:33 GMT
#30
Bogus > FBH. So i wont even bother to read it. THX
thunk
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States6233 Posts
October 29 2008 14:45 GMT
#31
On October 29 2008 23:33 -slo.m1ke- wrote:
Bogus > FBH. So i wont even bother to read it. THX


That's terrible. At least have some respect for what Spiral's done, it was a great write up.
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paavst
Profile Joined December 2007
171 Posts
October 29 2008 15:03 GMT
#32
yep, nice article.
Senx
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Sweden5901 Posts
October 29 2008 15:12 GMT
#33
"Lee Sung Eun is (a) business man and business is good."

You missed the "a" between "is" and "business", other then that, awesome job
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-29 15:15:52
October 29 2008 15:14 GMT
#34
its intentional afaik
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Atlantian
Profile Joined December 2007
United States302 Posts
October 29 2008 15:15 GMT
#35
Big FBH fan and I would love to see a poll here at tl.net with the options:
1) FBH fan
2) Not FBH fan

to actually see the amount of support/hate he has here.

FBH for MSL!
If Barbie is so popular why do we have to buy her friends?
SpiralArchitect
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2116 Posts
October 29 2008 15:41 GMT
#36
On October 30 2008 00:14 Plexa wrote:
its intentional afaik

No it isnt lol. Woopsy gogo fixzor mighty Plexa.
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imDerek
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States1944 Posts
October 29 2008 16:08 GMT
#37
go FBH take this MSL!
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Ozarugold
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
2716 Posts
October 29 2008 16:12 GMT
#38
I'll only hate Firebathero if he dances around Reach. That's a big no-no. Otherwise...

GO FIREBATHERO!!!
this is my quote.
kawoq
Profile Joined November 2005
Guatemala357 Posts
October 29 2008 16:14 GMT
#39
nice reading... I have always like FBH since the moment he show everyone Savior was mortal ^_^
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mSLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
115 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-29 16:16:38
October 29 2008 16:15 GMT
#40
Next week he will have to face SKT powerhouse Bisu, another Protoss in his path to glory! He will have to gather his wits once again as he goes to face an opponent he nearly eliminated from the MSL, an opponent who has got to be bitter after losing to a former TvP retard


this made me start hysterically laughing, but that was an epic article sp1ral :D

Edit: next savior vs FBH match is going to be epic, and savior will rape him.

<-- Called it.

also on a side note, does anyone know if FBH's name is still BRAQ? I know he changed it a while ago to BRAQ or BRAT or something, but we all still called him FBH, I didn't know if he kept it or changed it back.
My nationality is NOT Canadian, And that's all you need to know.
.risingdragoon
Profile Joined January 2008
United States3021 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-29 16:27:16
October 29 2008 16:21 GMT
#41
good work

not gonna read it though, sorry. monkey boy irritates me something fierce. everytime I see 'em the annoy song "brass monkey" pops into my head and I feel like punching faces
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LordWeird
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3411 Posts
October 29 2008 16:27 GMT
#42
Great article, brother. Really enjoyed it. You make me so proud!
Chains none
SpiralArchitect
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2116 Posts
October 29 2008 16:35 GMT
#43
On October 30 2008 01:27 LordWeird wrote:
Great article, brother. Really enjoyed it. You make me so proud!

<3 matt! OG Fo sho.
TeamLiquids #1 illiterate writer, writin dem wordz is de hardz.
GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
October 29 2008 16:57 GMT
#44
good article, FBH is still either a love/hate character
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Raithed
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
China7078 Posts
October 29 2008 17:20 GMT
#45
if fbh kills bisu.
ill quit playing p and start playing t.

you heard it here first.
ShadowDrgn
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States2497 Posts
October 29 2008 17:26 GMT
#46
Although the infamous python game was the start, FBH's B.net attack episodes are what really made me a fan. Progamer marines, everything he predicted happened, and nuking his opponents = awesome.
Of course, you only live one life, and you make all your mistakes, and learn what not to do, and that’s the end of you.
Tonkerchen
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
680 Posts
October 29 2008 17:34 GMT
#47
2pac yo~
and yes, pretty nice article. i want a new one of the maestro (plsssssssss)
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HotZhot
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Colombia677 Posts
October 29 2008 17:44 GMT
#48
I'm with Hot_Bid here; I only ask for a PL finals ace match where Savior > FBH, not much but it would mean so much to me.
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fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
October 29 2008 17:54 GMT
#49
Nice article.
Peace~
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-29 20:22:38
October 29 2008 17:59 GMT
#50
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
Roogle
Profile Joined September 2008
United Kingdom7 Posts
October 29 2008 18:56 GMT
#51
Awesome article, made me chuckle.
FConnectionUK *
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States316 Posts
October 29 2008 18:59 GMT
#52
FFIIIRREEEEEEEEEE~~
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LordWeird
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3411 Posts
October 29 2008 19:10 GMT
#53
On October 30 2008 01:35 Sp1ralArch1tect wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2008 01:27 LordWeird wrote:
Great article, brother. Really enjoyed it. You make me so proud!

<3 matt! OG Fo sho.


You know it broseph. <333333333333333333
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parkin
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
1080 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-29 19:26:51
October 29 2008 19:12 GMT
#54
FBH the TvP Retard - ,.-v
mostly harmless
qaswedfr25
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States212 Posts
October 29 2008 19:16 GMT
#55
Call me sadistic, but my only wish is for the person on the right side of the bracket to give Stork more silver.
never_Nal
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Costa Rica676 Posts
October 29 2008 20:00 GMT
#56
FBH i've always loved his TvZ, he is so good XD :D and now winning tvp One Marine drop
Be kind whenever possible. It is always possible.
Raelcun
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States3747 Posts
October 29 2008 20:09 GMT
#57
FBH is lol that's basically the whole article in summary
Tensai176
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Canada2061 Posts
October 29 2008 20:20 GMT
#58
Nice read love all the TLFE!
We see things they'll never see
LosingID8
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
CA10828 Posts
October 29 2008 20:27 GMT
#59
On October 30 2008 02:20 Raithed wrote:
if fbh kills bisu.
ill quit playing p and start playing t.

you heard it here first.

quoted for evidence
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Djabanete
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States2786 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-29 20:38:24
October 29 2008 20:36 GMT
#60
On October 29 2008 17:38 nobodyhome246 wrote:
Making a name out of yourself by theatricals is fine and all, but to do it at someone else's expense is questionable.


This is my only problem with FBH. Most of his ceremonies are cool, but some of them show disrespect for the loser which I don't think is cool. You can celebrate and be super-popular without disrespecting your colleagues.

Bolded for emphasis, I've got nothing against crotchmastery or stripping, that's not what bothers me.
May the BeSt man win.
Dazed.
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3301 Posts
October 29 2008 20:44 GMT
#61
Should not of been an FE...
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KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14893 Posts
October 29 2008 20:59 GMT
#62
hm no wonder
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-29 21:07:20
October 29 2008 21:06 GMT
#63
On October 29 2008 23:33 -slo.m1ke- wrote:
Bogus > FBH. So i wont even bother to read it. THX



Have you actually seen those games? Massive underestimation of his opponent... It can happen to anyone and seriously, would you be serious against 16 y old kid whose nickname is bogus?

And would you still be if you had tendencies to be cocky as FBH does?

NO!

I am sure that if they would meet again. FBH would not try that retarded build that can work only against 14 CC and total noobs and he'd kill bogus with ease...
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
Nightmarjoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States3360 Posts
October 29 2008 21:19 GMT
#64
Very good article, but I'll never like Firebathero. I want to see what Savior does after he destroys Firebathero in 2009. Or maybe Firebathero will start to majorly slump/suck and Savior won't get his chance lol.
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Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
October 29 2008 21:20 GMT
#65
I love you FireBatHero.
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ish0wstopper
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Korea (South)342 Posts
October 29 2008 21:21 GMT
#66
omfg
awesome article

#1 fbh fan for years
ish0wstopper effect
Zortch
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada635 Posts
October 29 2008 21:35 GMT
#67
Nice read.
As much as I hate FBH and think his dancing is unsportsman like and lame, I do admit that it does keep things interesting .
Respect is everything. ~ARchon
RamenStyle
Profile Joined September 2004
United States1929 Posts
October 29 2008 23:30 GMT
#68
I always thought of FBH as a 2nd tier terran, not yet at the Boxer, Nada, Flash, Xellos, Oov status, but just behind them, with a decent TvZ/TvT player with a horrible undeveloped TvP.... Until now.

I have to confess that seeing him cruise through Much and Bisu was quite a surprise, and even his wins against Tempest might not be enough to see if he really is champ material, his series against Bisu will.

In all honesty, I think Bisu will tear him apart. It's one thing losing 1 game, it's another losing a whole series. However we are talking about FBH. He might be able to pull it out, in which case, his horrible TvP past should be put aside for some time.
omninmo
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
2349 Posts
October 29 2008 23:35 GMT
#69
FBH should write a letter to Bogus to discuss TvT.
GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
October 30 2008 00:49 GMT
#70
Bisu ripped apart Hwasin, who has always been a decent T player (not a dominant one, sort of like FBH historically). FBH tore through Much (14 nex dosen't work all the time much), and Bisu, so we'll need to see what happens.
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meegrean
Profile Joined May 2008
Thailand7699 Posts
October 30 2008 01:26 GMT
#71
Nooo.. but I want Stork to win. FBH can get silver instead.
Brood War loyalist
cgrinker
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3824 Posts
October 30 2008 02:25 GMT
#72
nice read. I think when you think of Terrans that are really good either you think of the older ones, Boxer, Nada, Oov, or like Flash and fantasy. But if there is only space for two then that's not really fair for terran players. I mean everyone plays toss so...


Again nice read
ish0wstopper
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Korea (South)342 Posts
October 30 2008 02:29 GMT
#73
also, i disagree with your comment that fbh is a b team level terran

his tvz is top notch and has been for years. his tvt has also been good. he is a consistent player and deserves his spot in khan's a team

also fantasy is not an older good terran
ish0wstopper effect
Ver
Profile Joined October 2008
United States2186 Posts
October 30 2008 03:11 GMT
#74
It makes sense.

FBH is a great terran but he's never dominated hardcore, he's never won anything. He certainly isn't at the level of Flash or anything.

Boxer Nada oov are in a class of their own.

Those are two groups that are above him, so B level makes sense.
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astalkulo
Profile Joined October 2007
United States444 Posts
October 30 2008 03:14 GMT
#75
FBH could win this MSL by playing all games vs Protoss!! and that's all he has trained the past 4 weeks.I'm not a FBH fan and it's hard for me to see him as a MSL champion; but he has a good chance to be. Nice write up and I'm hoping you are wrong about FBH msl champion!!!
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
October 30 2008 03:28 GMT
#76
On October 30 2008 11:29 ish0wstopper wrote:
also, i disagree with your comment that fbh is a b team level terran

his tvz is top notch and has been for years. his tvt has also been good. he is a consistent player and deserves his spot in khan's a team

also fantasy is not an older good terran
During the period Bacchus-EVER07 there is no question that FBH was a mediocre terran. Before that (during daum) and after (ie now) he has been a monster.
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BanZu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3329 Posts
October 30 2008 07:14 GMT
#77
I can't imagine FBH without his ceremonies

makes me sad thinking about it so i'll stop
Sun Tzu once said, "Defiler becomes useless at the presences of a vessel."
strongwind
Profile Joined July 2007
United States862 Posts
October 30 2008 08:28 GMT
#78
Bisu, please don't let FBH ceremony on your watch.
Taek Bang Fighting!
curiousgeorge
Profile Joined October 2008
United States73 Posts
October 30 2008 09:31 GMT
#79
Nice write-up! FBH fighting!

lol, I remember the mini scare when people thought the new proleague rules would stop his ceremonies.
KHAAAAAAAAN!
R3condite
Profile Joined August 2008
Korea (South)1541 Posts
October 30 2008 15:18 GMT
#80
awesome read... def was good

mixed feelings for FBH... i think he's got ballz and now has the skills to bak it up but originally his ceremonies were really offensive...
ggyo...
Sprite
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States1015 Posts
October 30 2008 20:12 GMT
#81
On October 30 2008 01:12 Ozarugold wrote:
I'll only hate Firebathero if he dances around Reach. That's a big no-no. Otherwise...

GO FIREBATHERO!!!


Firebathero listed Reach as someone who influenced him in an interview, so i doubt he would do that.
Firebathero is still the best!
QuietIdiot
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
7004 Posts
October 30 2008 20:16 GMT
#82
The guy is a narcissist, a cunt who enjoys to kick people when they're down, and he plays an aggressive+arrogant style of play.

Very cool, pro-scene's been missing the clown + love/hate guy, rather apathetic about him, rather see him lose, but when savior eventually rapes him 3-0 in a semis, it would be the most profound revenge in bw history. I await such a day.

Article is an OK read, nice to recollect on some old games.
Sprite
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States1015 Posts
October 31 2008 02:28 GMT
#83
On October 30 2008 08:35 Kunty wrote:
FBH should write a letter to Bogus to discuss TvT.


You do know he beat Sea.Really like right after that in proleague lol.
Firebathero is still the best!
il0seonpurpose
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5638 Posts
October 31 2008 20:46 GMT
#84
Nice article! FBH is aweseom
MiniRoman
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
Canada3953 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-01 16:55:01
November 01 2008 16:53 GMT
#85
Everyone who finds FBH an anomoly needs to be more cool and relaxed IRL

Clearly a guy who is enjoying himself.

Edit: Like you.
On October 31 2008 05:16 QuietIdiot wrote:
The guy is a narcissist, a cunt who enjoys to kick people when they're down, and he plays an aggressive+arrogant style of play.

Nak Allstar.
QuietIdiot
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
7004 Posts
November 01 2008 18:46 GMT
#86
On November 02 2008 01:53 MiniRoman wrote:
Everyone who finds FBH an anomoly needs to be more cool and relaxed IRL

Clearly a guy who is enjoying himself.

Edit: Like you.
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2008 05:16 QuietIdiot wrote:
The guy is a narcissist, a cunt who enjoys to kick people when they're down, and he plays an aggressive+arrogant style of play.


Dude, did you completely neglect what I said down?

He is an asshole, but I like him for the conflicts he creates, makes the scene more interesting. I don't particularly hate him or anything, I'm just stating he's a prick who enjoys the attention and damage.
SpiralArchitect
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2116 Posts
November 01 2008 19:17 GMT
#87
QuietIdiot is right imo. He is a sadist. He enjoys seeing others in pain while he is on top. This doesnt make him a bad player or a bad person actually, since any athlete enjoys winning. FBH just likes to rub it in a little bit and that may not go down so well with some people, namely Yubee and QuiteIdiot.
TeamLiquids #1 illiterate writer, writin dem wordz is de hardz.
QuietIdiot
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
7004 Posts
November 01 2008 19:36 GMT
#88
Eh being a sadist is never a nice or positive adjective to put on a person. If your a sadist, I think that qualifies as being, at the very least, an asshole. Just because I put a negative label on an individual does not necessarily mean I dislike him.

I don't have a personal vendetta or anything against him, it doesn't particularly make me angry when I see him dance around savior, in fact I don't get emotionally stirred at all, but I'm just stating he is a prick to his fellow pro-gamers, just as plainly subjective I can be. But he makes the drama and friction between players just that much more entertaining, rivalries more bitter, just like athletes in professional sports talking shit about others, and from a spectator point of view, its all so entertaining. I would enjoy it more if savior takes apart him in the future just to see the wounds get deeper and the reactions from it, not cause I like savior more and want to see FBH fail.

I don't really like his style of play, its pretty much mechanical and complete aggression without the creative flair, so I'm rather neutral with him overall.

Also did you purposely write quiteidiot as something subtle?
SpiralArchitect
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2116 Posts
November 02 2008 00:27 GMT
#89
Haha no its just a typo which I commonly suffer from. Being a sadist is a bad thing to some extent but in this case he isnt actually reveling in someones pain as much as he is reveling in his own pleasure. So maybe hes more of a hedonist.
TeamLiquids #1 illiterate writer, writin dem wordz is de hardz.
jodogohoo
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada2533 Posts
November 02 2008 05:58 GMT
#90
I think Lee Sung Eun is a pretty cool guy. Eh kills aliensprotoss and doesn't afraid of anything.
Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6177 Posts
November 02 2008 14:26 GMT
#91
fbh is pretty good terran, but i don't like that guy^^
FreeDoM[YA]
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Canada855 Posts
November 02 2008 19:44 GMT
#92
I can't wait for FBH to win something then to go into a massive slump so we never hear of him again!
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19237 Posts
March 25 2014 01:43 GMT
#93
This final edit is way to well written to not be talked about in 6 years. FBH <3
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