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Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
July 31 2016 06:51 GMT
#1961
On July 31 2016 15:50 Silvana wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2016 15:46 Phredxor wrote:
KT and Zest all disappointing today. As is expected against JA.


Exactly. I'm really getting tired of this same story every time...


On the plus side you never know if PL will even come back next year With the struggles they had this year getting SKT to sponsor it. That might cure us of our PL woes.
Silvana
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
3713 Posts
July 31 2016 06:52 GMT
#1962
On July 31 2016 15:51 Phredxor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2016 15:50 Silvana wrote:
On July 31 2016 15:46 Phredxor wrote:
KT and Zest all disappointing today. As is expected against JA.


Exactly. I'm really getting tired of this same story every time...


On the plus side you never know if PL will even come back next year With the struggles they had this year getting SKT to sponsor it. That might cure us of our PL woes.


How's that a plus side :'(
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
July 31 2016 06:54 GMT
#1963
On July 31 2016 15:52 Silvana wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2016 15:51 Phredxor wrote:
On July 31 2016 15:50 Silvana wrote:
On July 31 2016 15:46 Phredxor wrote:
KT and Zest all disappointing today. As is expected against JA.


Exactly. I'm really getting tired of this same story every time...


On the plus side you never know if PL will even come back next year With the struggles they had this year getting SKT to sponsor it. That might cure us of our PL woes.


How's that a plus side :'(


It's not. Getting real sick of the losses to JA too. And I want to shoot the KT coaches.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
July 31 2016 06:56 GMT
#1964
JinAir has the clutch players i guess :/
Will be hard to win proleague against that team
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Silvana
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
3713 Posts
July 31 2016 06:57 GMT
#1965
On July 31 2016 15:54 Phredxor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2016 15:52 Silvana wrote:
On July 31 2016 15:51 Phredxor wrote:
On July 31 2016 15:50 Silvana wrote:
On July 31 2016 15:46 Phredxor wrote:
KT and Zest all disappointing today. As is expected against JA.


Exactly. I'm really getting tired of this same story every time...


On the plus side you never know if PL will even come back next year With the struggles they had this year getting SKT to sponsor it. That might cure us of our PL woes.


How's that a plus side :'(


It's not. Getting real sick of the losses to JA too. And I want to shoot the KT coaches.


If we feel this way imagine how it must feel for the players. It has to be terrible for their mentality.
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-31 06:59:13
July 31 2016 06:58 GMT
#1966
At least the finals are PL format. Think we have better chance in that.

Also I like how the Zest fan club has become the KT fan club
Silvana
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
3713 Posts
July 31 2016 06:59 GMT
#1967
On July 31 2016 15:56 The_Red_Viper wrote:
JinAir has the clutch players i guess :/
Will be hard to win proleague against that team


There was not much clutches this time tho. They never were under pressure. I never felt like KT had the upper hand in neither the games or the mindset.
Silvana
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
3713 Posts
July 31 2016 07:00 GMT
#1968
On July 31 2016 15:58 Phredxor wrote:
At least the finals are PL format. Think we have better chance in that.

Also I like how the Zest fan club has become the KT fan club


I thought about making a KT fanclub but it would be basically us posting in there :D
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
July 31 2016 07:04 GMT
#1969
I mean Zest is the face of KT, so it's close enough :D

Clutch as in being on their a game when it matters. I didn't feel like TY, Stats or Zest really played at 100% power.
Even though i guess you cannot fault Zest too much. Stats really should have won against Cure though :/
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Lil_nooblet
Profile Joined March 2016
United States459 Posts
July 31 2016 07:05 GMT
#1970
Kind of sucks KT lost to JA again but at least the top players are performing pretty well in individual leagues (outside of Stats losing in gsl).
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55566 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-31 07:20:53
July 31 2016 07:17 GMT
#1971
See this is why you have to be like me, realize that the match isn't that important. Then you don't get super sad when KT lose. Only mildly annoyed. Didn't expect it to go 1-4. Now there's no real point in watching the VODs

Now if only we knew when the actual playoffs start.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
July 31 2016 07:22 GMT
#1972
On July 31 2016 16:17 Elentos wrote:
See this is why you have to be like me, realize that the match isn't that important. Then you don't get super sad when KT lose. Only mildly annoyed. Didn't expect it to go 1-4. Now there's no real point in watching the VODs

Now if only we knew when the actual playoffs start.

It's maybe not important for standings or anything, but at some point the KT guys probably lose confidence against JinAir.
When you are playing in front of a foreign audience with quite a lot of guys watching you surely wanna win, KT didn't even play in TB because of this. So it was kinda important :/
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
July 31 2016 07:22 GMT
#1973
That's all well and good, but like Silvana said it must be hard on the players constantly losing to JA. Beating them here would have done them a world of good and given them confidence for the finals.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55566 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-31 08:35:06
July 31 2016 07:25 GMT
#1974
The finals aren't in all-kill though. In Proleague format KT does way better against Jin Air.

Plus you can get some confidence back with a 4-0, 4-0 against SKT or Afreeca

I really doubt Zest or Stats lost any confidence from this. They're not the type to. But the match was lost the moment Stats lost game 1 anyway.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Silvana
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
3713 Posts
July 31 2016 08:47 GMT
#1975
On July 31 2016 16:25 Elentos wrote:
The finals aren't in all-kill though. In Proleague format KT does way better against Jin Air.

Plus you can get some confidence back with a 4-0, 4-0 against SKT or Afreeca

I really doubt Zest or Stats lost any confidence from this. They're not the type to. But the match was lost the moment Stats lost game 1 anyway.


Why do you guys keep saying this? Zest and TY are totally capable of taking 2 games each.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55566 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-31 09:11:11
July 31 2016 09:08 GMT
#1976
On July 31 2016 17:47 Silvana wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2016 16:25 Elentos wrote:
The finals aren't in all-kill though. In Proleague format KT does way better against Jin Air.

Plus you can get some confidence back with a 4-0, 4-0 against SKT or Afreeca

I really doubt Zest or Stats lost any confidence from this. They're not the type to. But the match was lost the moment Stats lost game 1 anyway.


Why do you guys keep saying this? Zest and TY are totally capable of taking 2 games each.

Because when Stats lost Jin Air basically got homefield advantage. Against any other team, sure they could and arguably would. But not against Jin Air being able to freely choose who they send out when while they already have a lead (2-0 even because Leenock lost).

Just because of how KT's and Jin Air's players interact.

Stats > Rogue, Stats = sOs, Stats < Maru
TY ≥ Rogue, TY < sOs, TY ≤ Maru
Zest < Rogue, Zest ≥ sOs, Zest > Maru

When Stats gets knocked out early against Jin Air, too much hinges on Zest. I think that got kinda exposed today. Since KT always starts with Stats I'm surprised it took them so long to snipe him successfully.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
July 31 2016 09:10 GMT
#1977
KT need a reliable fourth player, preferably a good Zerg. Those are rare though.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55566 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-31 09:51:36
July 31 2016 09:16 GMT
#1978
On July 31 2016 18:10 Olli wrote:
KT need a reliable fourth player, preferably a good Zerg. Those are rare though.

Before the season started people were hoping Losira would be the guy. But him and Leenock aren't doing the job. But the really good Zergs? Probably all unavailable. Maybe try for a Terran (GuMiho)?
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Silvana
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
3713 Posts
July 31 2016 09:18 GMT
#1979
On July 31 2016 18:08 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2016 17:47 Silvana wrote:
On July 31 2016 16:25 Elentos wrote:
The finals aren't in all-kill though. In Proleague format KT does way better against Jin Air.

Plus you can get some confidence back with a 4-0, 4-0 against SKT or Afreeca

I really doubt Zest or Stats lost any confidence from this. They're not the type to. But the match was lost the moment Stats lost game 1 anyway.


Why do you guys keep saying this? Zest and TY are totally capable of taking 2 games each.

Because when Stats lost Jin Air basically got homefield advantage. Against any other team, sure they could and arguably would. But not against Jin Air being able to freely choose who they send out when while they already have a lead (2-0 even because Leenock lost).

Just because of how KT's and Jin Air's players interact.

Stats > Rogue, Stats = sOs, Stats < Maru
TY ≥ Rogue, TY < sOs, TY ≤ Maru
Zest < Rogue, Zest ≥ sOs, Zest > Maru

When Stats gets knocked out early against Jin Air, too much hinges on Zest. I think that got kinda exposed today. Since KT always starts with Stats I'm surprised it took them so long to snipe him successfully.


Loved the inequations, made the explanation crystal clear
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55566 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-31 10:09:04
July 31 2016 09:26 GMT
#1980
On July 31 2016 18:18 Silvana wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2016 18:08 Elentos wrote:
On July 31 2016 17:47 Silvana wrote:
On July 31 2016 16:25 Elentos wrote:
The finals aren't in all-kill though. In Proleague format KT does way better against Jin Air.

Plus you can get some confidence back with a 4-0, 4-0 against SKT or Afreeca

I really doubt Zest or Stats lost any confidence from this. They're not the type to. But the match was lost the moment Stats lost game 1 anyway.


Why do you guys keep saying this? Zest and TY are totally capable of taking 2 games each.

Because when Stats lost Jin Air basically got homefield advantage. Against any other team, sure they could and arguably would. But not against Jin Air being able to freely choose who they send out when while they already have a lead (2-0 even because Leenock lost).

Just because of how KT's and Jin Air's players interact.

Stats > Rogue, Stats = sOs, Stats < Maru
TY ≥ Rogue, TY < sOs, TY ≤ Maru
Zest < Rogue, Zest ≥ sOs, Zest > Maru

When Stats gets knocked out early against Jin Air, too much hinges on Zest. I think that got kinda exposed today. Since KT always starts with Stats I'm surprised it took them so long to snipe him successfully.


Loved the inequations, made the explanation crystal clear

I try

Last year the PL playoffs started 8 days after the last round playoffs finished, so I hope the playoffs for this year start soon.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
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