On May 03 2016 21:14 Olli wrote: Zest's PvT now is better than Rain's was. But I'd still take Parting over both of them - he killed terrans in any way he wanted.
Rain retired so you can't really compare them anymore PartinG lost in an all-terran Ro16 group in S3 GSL though
On May 02 2016 20:05 NaMeK17 wrote: Zest is so dominant in PvT its unreal. The last time a player was this good in a specific match up was probably innovation vs Zerg early Hots.
Rain in GSL season 2 last year, he lost one map in Code S in PvT. He lost one map to Maru. Zest had 81% in PvT this Code S, Rain had 92%
He is probably talking about dominance since the start of 2016, not only this GSL season...
no he mentioned Innovation vs Zerg, he's talking about specific Matchups, Rain was much more dominant in PvT in his GSL win AND the HomeStory Cup that he won compared to Zest's PvT matchup
They have almost identical win rates. Zest is 23-6 in PvT offline since LotV came out (half the losses came last year in his first two LotV PvT's)
Whilst Rain was 19-5 during his GSL/HSC period. If you were to stretch Rains period out to 5 months like Zests it drops to 26-11.
If anything I always felt Partings PvT was far better than Rains, though I can't be bothered to look up the stats.
I guess if you stretch it out then yeah but i was purely talking about GSL's only, because Rain had no PL to take into consideration with his 2015 GSL win Purely GSL stats based, Rain was a bit more dominant in PvT
On May 03 2016 21:14 Olli wrote: Zest's PvT now is better than Rain's was. But I'd still take Parting over both of them - he killed terrans in any way he wanted.
Rain retired so you can't really compare them anymore PartinG lost in an all-terran Ro16 group in S3 GSL though
Honestly, in late 2015 he looked like he entirely stopped practicing HotS. For the first half of the year, his PvT was out of this world.
Actually, looking at it, his PvT win rate is out of this world for the entirety of HotS. 81% win rate in matches over 3 years of online & offline competition is completely absurd (Rain is ~75% for all of HotS, which is also crazy good).
On May 03 2016 21:14 Olli wrote: Zest's PvT now is better than Rain's was. But I'd still take Parting over both of them - he killed terrans in any way he wanted.
Rain retired so you can't really compare them anymore PartinG lost in an all-terran Ro16 group in S3 GSL though
Honestly, in late 2015 he looked like he entirely stopped practicing HotS. For the first half of the year, his PvT was out of this world.
Actually, looking at it, his PvT win rate is out of this world for the entirety of HotS. 81% win rate in matches over 3 years of online & offline competition is completely absurd (Rain is ~75% for all of HotS, which is also crazy good).
On May 03 2016 21:14 Olli wrote: Zest's PvT now is better than Rain's was. But I'd still take Parting over both of them - he killed terrans in any way he wanted.
Rain retired so you can't really compare them anymore PartinG lost in an all-terran Ro16 group in S3 GSL though
Honestly, in late 2015 he looked like he entirely stopped practicing HotS. For the first half of the year, his PvT was out of this world.
Actually, looking at it, his PvT win rate is out of this world for the entirety of HotS. 81% win rate in matches over 3 years of online & offline competition is completely absurd (Rain is ~75% for all of HotS, which is also crazy good).
Is that vs Koreans or all?
Either way that's ridiculous. I miss PartinG.
Yes PartinG is missed, and Rain too. On the contrary, I think we shouldn't be talking too much about Rain and PartinG on Zest's Fan club so maybe we should end the conversation
On May 03 2016 21:14 Olli wrote: Zest's PvT now is better than Rain's was. But I'd still take Parting over both of them - he killed terrans in any way he wanted.
Rain retired so you can't really compare them anymore PartinG lost in an all-terran Ro16 group in S3 GSL though
Honestly, in late 2015 he looked like he entirely stopped practicing HotS. For the first half of the year, his PvT was out of this world.
Actually, looking at it, his PvT win rate is out of this world for the entirety of HotS. 81% win rate in matches over 3 years of online & offline competition is completely absurd (Rain is ~75% for all of HotS, which is also crazy good).
Is that vs Koreans or all?
Either way that's ridiculous. I miss PartinG.
Yes PartinG is missed, and Rain too. On the contrary, I think we shouldn't be talking too much about Rain and PartinG on Zest's Fan club so maybe we should end the conversation
It's all good. Just comparing win rates.
Besides Zest is now in my book the most successful Protoss in SC2 and we all know he is best :p
I was so scared when Zest lost 0-3 to Snute. I know Snute is good but that week there was alot of matches for our beloved Zest. I hope for maximum wins.
On May 04 2016 16:26 Wallenberg wrote: I was so scared when Zest lost 0-3 to Snute. I know Snute is good but that week there was alot of matches for our beloved Zest. I hope for maximum wins.
he was preparing GSL and ping was a problem, perhaps he didnt want to play at all, but now the GSL has ended, the only reason to stop Zest has gone…so Zest will win for sure~
On May 04 2016 03:27 The_Red_Viper wrote: edit: i will probably restructure the op in the next few days, not really happy with it right now You can pm me ideas/solutions if you want, haha
Personally, I think it's one of the best ones but feel free to take a look at mine for some ideas. (links in profile)
Zest said he wanted to win against Dark in the Cross Finals, but his PvZ winrate just keep suggesting otherwise. Zest please, you need to actually perform first before you can win against the probably best ZvP-er in the world
He is definitely playing bad. Whether it is because of the maps or a lack of interest Idk. TY also played half assed... These two totally killed my hype for online cups
Edit: calm down guys! Until he starts underperforming offline there is no reason to worry. Don't let any caster or TL preview convince you otherwise