EPTE: new page hype
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NinjaToss
Austria1383 Posts
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Wallenberg
203 Posts
On April 24 2016 01:52 NinjaToss wrote: eyyy it's okay, the consensus is that Zest is top 3 in the world right now, who needs ELO or Aligulac list to prove how good he is. E: new page hype Well someone changed the list from two or now maybe three days ago. 1: I want the old list back. 2: Does someone remember that Zest was nr 1? | ||
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Elentos
55566 Posts
On April 24 2016 02:24 Wallenberg wrote: Well someone changed the list from two or now maybe three days ago. 1: I want the old list back. 2: Does someone remember that Zest was nr 1? I already told you it's because the list was updated with the Snute match that Zest got dropped lower. On the current list (the sidebar didn't show it correctly yet), Zest is in 2nd with his win over Dear. Which is much better to look at. | ||
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NinjaToss
Austria1383 Posts
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Elentos
55566 Posts
On April 24 2016 06:14 NinjaToss wrote: Hey Zest is back in 2nd place which is basically top 3 now. It's so nice to look at. But damn, top 5 looks really wonky to me (this list is so weird, I'm not going to take in seriously) I mean, the first 3 kinda make sense and then the list gets really weird. Which is probably because there was no reset from HotS to LotV. I think if Rain came out of retirement and won 2 matches he'd be instantly top 10. | ||
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
On April 24 2016 06:16 Elentos wrote: I mean, the first 3 kinda make sense and then the list gets really weird. Which is probably because there was no reset from HotS to LotV. I think if Rain came out of retirement and won 2 matches he'd be instantly top 10. If there would have been a reset it would probably be even worse though. If everyone would have started at the same elo again it would have been incredibly easy for players to gain elo by playing easier opponents (who would have had the same elo at the beginning and thus would have been considered "equal") No elo system will fix the problem that we basically have a lot of different scenes, Nerchio on 4, lol | ||
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bestviva
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Phredxor
New Zealand15076 Posts
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Olli
Austria24422 Posts
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Phredxor
New Zealand15076 Posts
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Olli
Austria24422 Posts
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Wallenberg
203 Posts
On April 24 2016 10:40 bestviva wrote: I dont understand why you guys care about the list…Zest is now in GSL final and has a great chance to win, who give the fuck about the bullshit list?! can it make Zest weak? NOT AT ALL Of course i know that Zest is best! Just wanted it to be statistically measured aswell.  | ||
ChapatiyaqPTSM
France1887 Posts
I have to admit that the TLPD rankings are terrible. TLPD uses basic Elo for the rankings, while Aligulac uses a system based on Glicko. The big difference between the two is that the Glicko system adds decay which means players who don't have a match in a certain span of time will lose points. TLPD does not, which is why Life has been hanging around the 11th place for months, and will probably stay there. Also, I believe that Aligulac counts offline results differently than online results, which TLPD does not do. + Show Spoiler [April 25 Proleague spoiler] + Maru won today, so he passed him :/ Anyway, my opinion is that Zest is Best! | ||
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Wallenberg
203 Posts
On April 25 2016 23:25 ChapatiyaqPTSM wrote: Hey, I'm the person who's been updating TLPD for LotV lately. Unfortunately, I'm the only one doing it, it seems, and the TLPD system is old, so not really fun to update. I have been missing some days, and the backlog grows fast :x I try to keep the Korean leagues relatively up-to-date though. Anyway, I added a lot of stuff this weekend, so it should be more up-to-date in general. At some point, Nerchio was #2, and in the end he's #15, which shows you how unstable the rankings are at the top. I have to admit that the TLPD rankings are terrible. TLPD uses basic Elo for the rankings, while Aligulac uses a system based on Glicko. The big difference between the two is that the Glicko system adds decay which means players who don't have a match in a certain span of time will lose points. TLPD does not, which is why Life has been hanging around the 11th place for months, and will probably stay there. Also, I believe that Aligulac counts offline results differently than online results, which TLPD does not do. + Show Spoiler [April 25 Proleague spoiler] + Maru won today, so he passed him :/ Anyway, my opinion is that Zest is Best! Nice Atleast we got it confirmed . GSL Final hype btw! | ||
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vik7
United States227 Posts
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Elentos
55566 Posts
On April 25 2016 23:25 ChapatiyaqPTSM wrote: Hey, I'm the person who's been updating TLPD for LotV lately. Unfortunately, I'm the only one doing it, it seems, and the TLPD system is old, so not really fun to update. I have been missing some days, and the backlog grows fast :x I try to keep the Korean leagues relatively up-to-date though. Anyway, I added a lot of stuff this weekend, so it should be more up-to-date in general. At some point, Nerchio was #2, and in the end he's #15, which shows you how unstable the rankings are at the top. I have to admit that the TLPD rankings are terrible. TLPD uses basic Elo for the rankings, while Aligulac uses a system based on Glicko. The big difference between the two is that the Glicko system adds decay which means players who don't have a match in a certain span of time will lose points. TLPD does not, which is why Life has been hanging around the 11th place for months, and will probably stay there. Also, I believe that Aligulac counts offline results differently than online results, which TLPD does not do. + Show Spoiler [April 25 Proleague spoiler] + Maru won today, so he passed him :/ Anyway, my opinion is that Zest is Best! I don't think Aligulac has actual decay. After X months without recorded matches they just take players out of the ranking, I'm pretty sure Flash still has the same rating he did when he retired. And according to the site's FAQ, online and offline count the same (not sure if that has been updated since). Can you not remove inactive/retired/banned players from the TLPD ELO ranking? That seems really strange. | ||
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ChapatiyaqPTSM
France1887 Posts
As for TLPD, I can't do anything, because the functionality is not coded in, and basically, I think we've pretty much given up on the current version of TLPD. There has been several TLPD 2.0 projects, but none of them is finished, but maybe one day... EDIT: Actually, never mind. I just noticed ForGG has lost his Elo: http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/hots/players/207_ForGG/games which I guess happens after 6 months of inactivity | ||
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Dastansc2
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NinjaToss
Austria1383 Posts
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Mekare
Germany393 Posts
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