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Lil_nooblet
Profile Joined March 2016
United States459 Posts
December 31 2016 00:46 GMT
#2701
I didn't get to watch the games against Gumiho this morning. How did his PvT look?
NinjaToss
Profile Blog Joined October 2015
Austria1383 Posts
December 31 2016 01:36 GMT
#2702
In my opinion, I thought it was actually way better than the last time I saw it (which was a loss against KeeN). He looked like he actually know what's he doing now, his micro and macro was pretty on point. The only thing that I feel that was off is that it looked like a Zerg offracing as a Protoss, and his engagement was kinda... suicidal or a bit over-aggressive. Zest wasn't that aggressive before while engaging, and he makes like at least 100 Probes per game, which was pretty odd for me.
I'm sorry for all those that got their hearts broken by Zest | Zest, Bisu, soO, herO, MC, Maru, TY, Rogue, Trap, TaeJa", Favourite foreigners: ShoWTimE, Snute, Serral and Nerchio| KT BEST KT |
[16thSq] Kuro
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
1221 Posts
December 31 2016 12:47 GMT
#2703
On December 31 2016 10:36 NinjaToss wrote:
In my opinion, I thought it was actually way better than the last time I saw it (which was a loss against KeeN). He looked like he actually know what's he doing now, his micro and macro was pretty on point. The only thing that I feel that was off is that it looked like a Zerg offracing as a Protoss, and his engagement was kinda... suicidal or a bit over-aggressive. Zest wasn't that aggressive before while engaging, and he makes like at least 100 Probes per game, which was pretty odd for me.

well he played some Zerg vs TRUE on stream, looking for some special tactics? :D
|| SC2 Info Fairy || Co-founder of CranKy Ducklings || All my links: linktr.ee/16thsquadsanseki ||
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
December 31 2016 13:17 GMT
#2704
On December 31 2016 10:36 NinjaToss wrote:
In my opinion, I thought it was actually way better than the last time I saw it (which was a loss against KeeN). He looked like he actually know what's he doing now, his micro and macro was pretty on point. The only thing that I feel that was off is that it looked like a Zerg offracing as a Protoss, and his engagement was kinda... suicidal or a bit over-aggressive. Zest wasn't that aggressive before while engaging, and he makes like at least 100 Probes per game, which was pretty odd for me.

Yeah. In the early game he pretty much looked like he was maphacking, had his stalkers in all the right places. But his engagements later in the game were pretty bad. He's also trying out chargelots instead of adepts (he goes stalker/colossus into chargelot/immortal/storm) which I haven't seen many players do.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
NinjaToss
Profile Blog Joined October 2015
Austria1383 Posts
December 31 2016 14:54 GMT
#2705
On December 31 2016 22:17 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2016 10:36 NinjaToss wrote:
In my opinion, I thought it was actually way better than the last time I saw it (which was a loss against KeeN). He looked like he actually know what's he doing now, his micro and macro was pretty on point. The only thing that I feel that was off is that it looked like a Zerg offracing as a Protoss, and his engagement was kinda... suicidal or a bit over-aggressive. Zest wasn't that aggressive before while engaging, and he makes like at least 100 Probes per game, which was pretty odd for me.

Yeah. In the early game he pretty much looked like he was maphacking, had his stalkers in all the right places. But his engagements later in the game were pretty bad. He's also trying out chargelots instead of adepts (he goes stalker/colossus into chargelot/immortal/storm) which I haven't seen many players do.


I was kinda confused by his build but I think once he gets the hang of it it's going to work out well for him. I think his most troublesome problem in the series against GumiHo was that he never actually have enough army.
I'm sorry for all those that got their hearts broken by Zest | Zest, Bisu, soO, herO, MC, Maru, TY, Rogue, Trap, TaeJa", Favourite foreigners: ShoWTimE, Snute, Serral and Nerchio| KT BEST KT |
fzcdarkgod
Profile Joined December 2016
58 Posts
January 01 2017 03:38 GMT
#2706
On December 31 2016 23:54 NinjaToss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2016 22:17 Elentos wrote:
On December 31 2016 10:36 NinjaToss wrote:
In my opinion, I thought it was actually way better than the last time I saw it (which was a loss against KeeN). He looked like he actually know what's he doing now, his micro and macro was pretty on point. The only thing that I feel that was off is that it looked like a Zerg offracing as a Protoss, and his engagement was kinda... suicidal or a bit over-aggressive. Zest wasn't that aggressive before while engaging, and he makes like at least 100 Probes per game, which was pretty odd for me.

Yeah. In the early game he pretty much looked like he was maphacking, had his stalkers in all the right places. But his engagements later in the game were pretty bad. He's also trying out chargelots instead of adepts (he goes stalker/colossus into chargelot/immortal/storm) which I haven't seen many players do.


I was kinda confused by his build but I think once he gets the hang of it it's going to work out well for him. I think his most troublesome problem in the series against GumiHo was that he never actually have enough army.


i agree with it.In addition,i think zest need to find back his old style rather than aggressive style that is not suitable for him.
fzcdarkgod
Profile Joined December 2016
58 Posts
January 04 2017 01:40 GMT
#2707
On December 31 2016 23:54 NinjaToss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2016 22:17 Elentos wrote:
On December 31 2016 10:36 NinjaToss wrote:
In my opinion, I thought it was actually way better than the last time I saw it (which was a loss against KeeN). He looked like he actually know what's he doing now, his micro and macro was pretty on point. The only thing that I feel that was off is that it looked like a Zerg offracing as a Protoss, and his engagement was kinda... suicidal or a bit over-aggressive. Zest wasn't that aggressive before while engaging, and he makes like at least 100 Probes per game, which was pretty odd for me.

Yeah. In the early game he pretty much looked like he was maphacking, had his stalkers in all the right places. But his engagements later in the game were pretty bad. He's also trying out chargelots instead of adepts (he goes stalker/colossus into chargelot/immortal/storm) which I haven't seen many players do.


I was kinda confused by his build but I think once he gets the hang of it it's going to work out well for him. I think his most troublesome problem in the series against GumiHo was that he never actually have enough army.


can he make it through this time?i'm worried about it
Lil_nooblet
Profile Joined March 2016
United States459 Posts
January 04 2017 03:43 GMT
#2708
Not really confident he will advance tonight. T is so strong right now
Meiske08
Profile Joined July 2016
Netherlands24 Posts
January 04 2017 09:50 GMT
#2709
Zest didnt sound confident in his interviews :SS
KT boys forever <3 ~ Twitter: @altimesBregje
Wallenberg
Profile Joined March 2016
203 Posts
January 04 2017 11:53 GMT
#2710
Why why why... He fucking killed over 21 workers on bunny... He taped out 2 fast... W H Y now my day is fucking over...
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
January 04 2017 12:01 GMT
#2711
On January 04 2017 20:53 Wallenberg wrote:
Why why why... He fucking killed over 21 workers on bunny... He taped out 2 fast... W H Y now my day is fucking over...

1 - He's not out yet
2 - He lost his entire army and 11 probes in the process of killing those 21 workers of Bunny, he was fucking dead
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Wallenberg
Profile Joined March 2016
203 Posts
January 04 2017 12:42 GMT
#2712
On January 04 2017 21:01 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2017 20:53 Wallenberg wrote:
Why why why... He fucking killed over 21 workers on bunny... He taped out 2 fast... W H Y now my day is fucking over...

1 - He's not out yet
2 - He lost his entire army and 11 probes in the process of killing those 21 workers of Bunny, he was fucking dead



Atleast in the ladder I think Zest is higher up than Keen. But this matchup once again is wierd to predict. If this was 9 months ago ZEST would crush. Now its a bit diffirent..
Wallenberg
Profile Joined March 2016
203 Posts
January 04 2017 13:22 GMT
#2713
My favorute player of all time is out in R of 32...Now I am forced to cheer on ByuN
Lil_nooblet
Profile Joined March 2016
United States459 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-04 15:42:37
January 04 2017 14:12 GMT
#2714
On January 04 2017 21:42 Wallenberg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2017 21:01 Elentos wrote:
On January 04 2017 20:53 Wallenberg wrote:
Why why why... He fucking killed over 21 workers on bunny... He taped out 2 fast... W H Y now my day is fucking over...

1 - He's not out yet
2 - He lost his entire army and 11 probes in the process of killing those 21 workers of Bunny, he was fucking dead



Atleast in the ladder I think Zest is higher up than Keen. But this matchup once again is wierd to predict. If this was 9 months ago ZEST would crush. Now its a bit diffirent..

Zests barcode has the highest protoss mmr on the kr ladder. Unlucky that he had to play by far his worst matchup 3 times in a row
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
January 04 2017 15:39 GMT
#2715
Oh man this sucks so much :/
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-04 15:53:49
January 04 2017 15:53 GMT
#2716
I was mentally prepared for this to happen but I can't say I'm not still a bit upset anyway. If he just played ever so slightly better he would have made it out of the group, maybe even in 1st place. When you get that close and don't make it the frustration reaches its highest level.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
January 04 2017 16:01 GMT
#2717
It's extremely frustrating to me because there is no weekly tournament where i can see him. Online cups is all there is now, meh
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
January 04 2017 16:51 GMT
#2718
On January 05 2017 01:01 The_Red_Viper wrote:
It's extremely frustrating to me because there is no weekly tournament where i can see him. Online cups is all there is now, meh

I don't get the problem with that honestly. Is your problem that you can't look at Zest directly? Online cups are a much bigger deal now than they were a year ago, and it'd be a good idea to support them so they can grow even more instead of going "Meh online cups don't care"
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
January 04 2017 17:03 GMT
#2719
Dunno it just doesn't seem like anything too worthwhile, at the end it's just an online cup for a few hundred bucks max.
I should care more now but it's hard
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
January 04 2017 17:09 GMT
#2720
On January 05 2017 01:51 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2017 01:01 The_Red_Viper wrote:
It's extremely frustrating to me because there is no weekly tournament where i can see him. Online cups is all there is now, meh

I don't get the problem with that honestly. Is your problem that you can't look at Zest directly? Online cups are a much bigger deal now than they were a year ago, and it'd be a good idea to support them so they can grow even more instead of going "Meh online cups don't care"


It's not the same. The level of prestige/production for offline cups is so much higher. Plus a general higher level of play, many just play online cups like they would ladder.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
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