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On March 03 2019 07:03 Uberfather wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2019 04:57 Fango wrote:soO is the ZvZ GOAT. An argument was starting to be made for Serral but the crown still belongs here  Im a Serral fan also and i agree. Serral is the one who has to change his game if he wants to have a better chance next time. I like herO too but i have a feeling this is The Tournament
I wouldn't say that after a 2-3 loss, it's not like Serral got swept; Serral needs to play a better version of his game to beat soO, I'm still convinced he takes if he plays at his best.
SoO has been the best or a very top contender in ZvZ for very long while also being extremely dominant for a certain period of time. That's why he's probably the GOAT in the matchup over Serral and NesTea, who have been similarly dominant over a shorter period.
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awesome play by soO to advance, game 3 was so excited and he played so well to take that last map. so excited for him to finally hopefully take it home tomorrow
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Hope this is the one. Good luck soO!
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On March 03 2019 07:26 Xain0n wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2019 07:03 Uberfather wrote:On March 03 2019 04:57 Fango wrote:soO is the ZvZ GOAT. An argument was starting to be made for Serral but the crown still belongs here Im a Serral fan also and i agree. Serral is the one who has to change his game if he wants to have a better chance next time. I like herO too but i have a feeling this is The Tournament I wouldn't say that after a 2-3 loss, it's not like Serral got swept; Serral needs to play a better version of his game to beat soO, I'm still convinced he takes if he plays at his best. SoO has been the best or a very top contender in ZvZ for very long while also being extremely dominant for a certain period of time. That's why he's probably the GOAT in the matchup over Serral and NesTea, who have been similarly dominant over a shorter period.
Well that's another way to try to have better chance at succeeding at some task, do the same thing but try to do it better. But I think this sudden rise in level of Serral's game (from best foreigner to top korean level, from early to second semester of last year) was by mixing in more strategies, playing series map by map. I dont think he suddenly got faster or better at macro etc, or more cleanly executing his plans, just had better plans, becoming harder to prepare against.
I believe something similar may have happened to soO when, while already having hit the top level as one of the monster of mechanics, he changed his game to finally succeed against zest (who was then on his literally "Is best" form) at gsl season 3 2014 semifinal.
I actually agree that Serral is the best at ZvZ right now even if he lost to soO. because this is a field where these 2 aren't the only players, so its not only head to head that matters. How each performs against other zergs like Rogue and Dark also matters, but i think soO's game is very good against Serral, and if they face each other again, if its another clash of 2 players imposing their best standard, go-to, zvz like that epic series seemed to me, i give soO the slight edge.
But i have a feeling Serral isn't on the Serral hype train like us fans tend to be, and knows its not that simple to just win against anyone, so after a series like that he will try more to avoid the same undesired result than just executing better
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On March 03 2019 10:48 Uberfather wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2019 07:26 Xain0n wrote:On March 03 2019 07:03 Uberfather wrote:On March 03 2019 04:57 Fango wrote:soO is the ZvZ GOAT. An argument was starting to be made for Serral but the crown still belongs here Im a Serral fan also and i agree. Serral is the one who has to change his game if he wants to have a better chance next time. I like herO too but i have a feeling this is The Tournament I wouldn't say that after a 2-3 loss, it's not like Serral got swept; Serral needs to play a better version of his game to beat soO, I'm still convinced he takes if he plays at his best. SoO has been the best or a very top contender in ZvZ for very long while also being extremely dominant for a certain period of time. That's why he's probably the GOAT in the matchup over Serral and NesTea, who have been similarly dominant over a shorter period. Well that's another way to try to have better chance at succeeding at some task, do the same thing but try to do it better. But I think this sudden rise in level of Serral's game (from best foreigner to top korean level, from early to second semester of last year) was by mixing in more strategies, playing series map by map. I dont think he suddenly got faster or better at macro etc, or more cleanly executing his plans, just had better plans, becoming harder to prepare against. I believe something similar may have happened to soO when, while already having hit the top level as one of the monster of mechanics, he changed his game to finally succeed against zest (who was then on his literally "Is best" form) at gsl season 3 2014 semifinal. I actually agree that Serral is the best at ZvZ right now even if he lost to soO. because this is a field where these 2 aren't the only players, so its not only head to head that matters. How each performs against other zergs like Rogue and Dark also matters, but i think soO's game is very good against Serral, and if they face each other again, if its another clash of 2 players imposing their best standard, go-to, zvz like that epic series seemed to me, i give soO the slight edge. But i have a feeling Serral isn't on the Serral hype train like us fans tend to be, and knows its not that simple to just win against anyone, so after a series like that he will try more to avoid the same undesired result than just executing better
Last post here as it is soO's fan page, let's discuss on Serral's where it is more appropriate.
I'm sure Serral rose to prominence by varying his style, but what I saw today was a performance of very high level, just not as solid as BlizzCon's.
soO is evidently a true master of Roach Ravager and played it extremely well today; however, Serral's in BlizzCon form(less blatant errors, better decision making) should have been able to go toe to toe with soO and triumph(3-2, I'd say) as he was not crushed by soO's superior control but by his impressive ability of striking exactly when he had the fatal advantage.
Thus said, I now hope soO lifts this IEM trophy.
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On March 03 2019 11:16 Xain0n wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2019 10:48 Uberfather wrote:On March 03 2019 07:26 Xain0n wrote:On March 03 2019 07:03 Uberfather wrote:On March 03 2019 04:57 Fango wrote:soO is the ZvZ GOAT. An argument was starting to be made for Serral but the crown still belongs here Im a Serral fan also and i agree. Serral is the one who has to change his game if he wants to have a better chance next time. I like herO too but i have a feeling this is The Tournament I wouldn't say that after a 2-3 loss, it's not like Serral got swept; Serral needs to play a better version of his game to beat soO, I'm still convinced he takes if he plays at his best. SoO has been the best or a very top contender in ZvZ for very long while also being extremely dominant for a certain period of time. That's why he's probably the GOAT in the matchup over Serral and NesTea, who have been similarly dominant over a shorter period. Well that's another way to try to have better chance at succeeding at some task, do the same thing but try to do it better. But I think this sudden rise in level of Serral's game (from best foreigner to top korean level, from early to second semester of last year) was by mixing in more strategies, playing series map by map. I dont think he suddenly got faster or better at macro etc, or more cleanly executing his plans, just had better plans, becoming harder to prepare against. I believe something similar may have happened to soO when, while already having hit the top level as one of the monster of mechanics, he changed his game to finally succeed against zest (who was then on his literally "Is best" form) at gsl season 3 2014 semifinal. I actually agree that Serral is the best at ZvZ right now even if he lost to soO. because this is a field where these 2 aren't the only players, so its not only head to head that matters. How each performs against other zergs like Rogue and Dark also matters, but i think soO's game is very good against Serral, and if they face each other again, if its another clash of 2 players imposing their best standard, go-to, zvz like that epic series seemed to me, i give soO the slight edge. But i have a feeling Serral isn't on the Serral hype train like us fans tend to be, and knows its not that simple to just win against anyone, so after a series like that he will try more to avoid the same undesired result than just executing better Last post here as it is soO's fan page, let's discuss on Serral's where it is more appropriate. I'm sure Serral rose to prominence by varying his style, but what I saw today was a performance of very high level, just not as solid as BlizzCon's. soO is evidently a true master of Roach Ravager and played it extremely well today; however, Serral's in BlizzCon form(less blatant errors, better decision making) should have been able to go toe to toe with soO and triumph(3-2, I'd say) as he was not crushed by soO's superior control but by his impressive ability of striking exactly when he had the fatal advantage. Thus said, I now hope soO lifts this IEM trophy.
Im discussing Serral vs Soo since the OP was about comparing them. I think they will have or could have a great rivalry since their styles mesh into a very exciting standard zvz, and maybe that can evolve into more strategic play like stats vs serral or soO vs zest. So i wish soO gets back to the top to make this even better, so I also hope he wins IEM, for more obvious reasons as well ^^. I also agree that Serral wasn't crushed by soO's superior control, as i think Serral's control may be even better.
I hope soO faces dark in the finals who is also playing zvz at a high level, but i have a feeling soO knows what to expect from him and it would be much easier then vs stats ^^
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On March 03 2019 11:48 Uberfather wrote:
I hope soO faces dark in the finals who is also playing zvz at a high level, but i have a feeling soO knows what to expect from him and it would be much easier then vs stats ^^
That would be hilarious. His only Kespa Cup win came against Dark xD
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SOOOOOOOOO #1 PLAYER WOOOOOO
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Finally and what a tournament to win!
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I never stopped believing, soO.
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what a magnificent son of a gun. well deserved.
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He did it, he finally did it. I think it's sinking in for me now. God, who the hell started peeling onions?.
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Why the hell did I not sign up as a fan years ago?! please add me <3.
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Champion soO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Champion soO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Champion soO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Champion soO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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So happy right now! I bet there were a lot of teary eyed people all around the world, especially with all the emotions shown by soO himself in that interview <3
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I'm not crying you're crying
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