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Mun_Su
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pvsnp
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The_Red_Viper
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pvsnp
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On June 12 2017 12:41 The_Red_Viper wrote: More importantly though, is Innovation on the edge to become the GOAT :O At the moment, I'd say it is arguable though Mvp and Life also still have strong cases as well. If INnoVation can win one more Starleague, he should be uncontested as GOAT. | ||
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Mun_Su
France2063 Posts
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AbouSV
Germany1278 Posts
As long as his opponent is a Zerg. | ||
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
On June 12 2017 15:44 pvsnp wrote: At the moment, I'd say it is arguable though Mvp and Life also still have strong cases as well. If INnoVation can win one more Starleague, he should be uncontested as GOAT. I mean i am not 100% sure how such a list would look atm. I think all results count and there are quite a few people with good results overall. But yeah another starleague title for inno should make it clear. On June 12 2017 16:58 Mun_Su wrote: I still think a GOAT need to have a strong TvT I mean Innos TvT in general isn't bad. His alltime TvT against koreans is at 65.11% (293/450), that's pretty good  | ||
The_Templar
your Country52797 Posts
On June 12 2017 11:59 pvsnp wrote: Ran across this helpful guide to interpreting INnoVation's many and varied emotional states: + Show Spoiler + It would be funnier if it was 9 different pictures of INnoVation with the same expression. | ||
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AzAlexZ
Australia3303 Posts
On June 13 2017 01:43 The_Templar wrote: It would be funnier if it was 9 different pictures of INnoVation with the same expression. LOL | ||
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FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
On June 12 2017 12:41 The_Red_Viper wrote: More importantly though, is Innovation on the edge to become the GOAT :O He's #3 in my books. Getting closer to overtaking Mvp. Life still holds a big lead over him at #1. Even with another starleague win, I think I'd still rank Life ahead. | ||
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pvsnp
7676 Posts
On June 13 2017 14:07 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: He's #3 in my books. Getting closer to overtaking Mvp. Life still holds a big lead over him at #1. Even with another starleague win, I think I'd still rank Life ahead. It all depends on how much you value Starleagues relative to weekend tournaments. Personally, I treat Starleague trophies as the gold standard and weekend tournaments as tiebreakers, but obviously other people weight each differently. Still, if Inno wins another Starleague he will have won more than anyone else and that's a very compelling argument for GOAT, at least to me. | ||
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`dunedain
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Inno on the other hand is steadily making his way up the charts. Yes, he may be #3, just under Life and Mvp. But that's the GOAT list right now. GOAT: 1. Mvp (Bonjwa) 2. Life (Forever behind Mvp. Not to mention the tarnished legacy he left behind.) 3. Innovation (Still currently playing and wrecking fools. One day could be the greatest.) | ||
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
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Charoisaur
Germany15981 Posts
On June 13 2017 16:33 `dunedain wrote: Lol no way is life higher ranked than Mvp, you must be losing your mind to consider him GOAT. Inno on the other hand is steadily making his way up the charts. Yes, he may be #3, just under Life and Mvp. But that's the GOAT list right now. GOAT: 1. Mvp (Bonjwa) 2. Life (Forever behind Mvp. Not to mention the tarnished legacy he left behind.) 3. Innovation (Still currently playing and wrecking fools. One day could be the greatest.) It's completely ridicolous saying Mvp is the Goat. The only reason people do that is because they don't want to realize a matchfixer is the greatest player to ever play the game. Mvp played when the scene was much less competitive in an extremely terran favored meta and still he has less premier tournament wins than Life. The ONLY thing that speaks in Mvps favor is that he has one more GSL title but how much does that really count when you just have to be good at 1 matchup to win a GSL. | ||
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ZertoN
Germany214 Posts
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Charoisaur
Germany15981 Posts
On June 13 2017 16:33 `dunedain wrote: Lol no way is life higher ranked than Mvp, you must be losing your mind to consider him GOAT. Inno on the other hand is steadily making his way up the charts. Yes, he may be #3, just under Life and Mvp. But that's the GOAT list right now. GOAT: 1. Mvp (Bonjwa) 2. Life (Forever behind Mvp. Not to mention the tarnished legacy he left behind.) 3. Innovation (Still currently playing and wrecking fools. One day could be the greatest.) It's completely ridicolous saying Mvp is the Goat. The only reason people do that is because they don't want to realize a matchfixer is the greatest player to ever play the game. Mvp played when the scene was much less competitive in an extremely terran favored meta and still he has less premier tournament wins than Life. The ONLY thing that speaks in Mvps favor is that he has one more GSL title but how much does that really count when you just have to be good at 1 matchup to win a GSL Inno is probably above Mvp already as well as Zest and sOs.. | ||
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FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
On June 13 2017 16:33 `dunedain wrote: Lol no way is life higher ranked than Mvp, you must be losing your mind to consider him GOAT. Inno on the other hand is steadily making his way up the charts. Yes, he may be #3, just under Life and Mvp. But that's the GOAT list right now. GOAT: 1. Mvp (Bonjwa) 2. Life (Forever behind Mvp. Not to mention the tarnished legacy he left behind.) 3. Innovation (Still currently playing and wrecking fools. One day could be the greatest.) Don't want to derail the fanclub too much but... Ignoring his shame as a matchfixer, Life has #1 locked up. I judge in descending order on the criteria of: Tournament Results (Slight edge to Life, even though Mvp has more starleague finalist appearances and wins) Consistency (Mvp wins) Longevity of Relevance (Life wins big) Innovation (Tough one, but I give Life the edge) Peak Performances (Life wins for his second peak) while also taking into account: balance, external factors (such as Mvp's wrists), and difficulty of each run with respect to the era (not taking into account general level of play of each era). Prior to 2015, I'd of went with Mvp. However, Life's second peak really was miraculous. The fact that he was so dominant in every matchup without being assisted by a Zerg-favored meta is pretty crazy. | ||
Inflicted
Australia18228 Posts
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DieuCure
France3713 Posts
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