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Mun_Su
Profile Joined December 2012
France2063 Posts
June 11 2017 11:05 GMT
#2501
Good JOB!
INno <3 - TY - Maru - Taeja - Rain <3 - Classic <3 - Stephano <3 - soO <3 - Soulkey - Dark - SERRAL =O / END REGION LOCK
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
June 12 2017 00:28 GMT
#2502
I updated INnoVation's wiki page with everything up to the present.
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pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
June 12 2017 02:59 GMT
#2503
Ran across this helpful guide to interpreting INnoVation's many and varied emotional states:

[image loading]
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
June 12 2017 03:41 GMT
#2504
More importantly though, is Innovation on the edge to become the GOAT :O
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-12 06:45:40
June 12 2017 06:44 GMT
#2505
On June 12 2017 12:41 The_Red_Viper wrote:
More importantly though, is Innovation on the edge to become the GOAT :O

At the moment, I'd say it is arguable though Mvp and Life also still have strong cases as well.

If INnoVation can win one more Starleague, he should be uncontested as GOAT.
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Mun_Su
Profile Joined December 2012
France2063 Posts
June 12 2017 07:58 GMT
#2506
I still think a GOAT need to have a strong TvT
INno <3 - TY - Maru - Taeja - Rain <3 - Classic <3 - Stephano <3 - soO <3 - Soulkey - Dark - SERRAL =O / END REGION LOCK
AbouSV
Profile Joined October 2014
Germany1278 Posts
June 12 2017 08:00 GMT
#2507
He has a strong TvT.
As long as his opponent is a Zerg.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
June 12 2017 14:36 GMT
#2508
On June 12 2017 15:44 pvsnp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2017 12:41 The_Red_Viper wrote:
More importantly though, is Innovation on the edge to become the GOAT :O

At the moment, I'd say it is arguable though Mvp and Life also still have strong cases as well.

If INnoVation can win one more Starleague, he should be uncontested as GOAT.

I mean i am not 100% sure how such a list would look atm. I think all results count and there are quite a few people with good results overall.
But yeah another starleague title for inno should make it clear.

On June 12 2017 16:58 Mun_Su wrote:
I still think a GOAT need to have a strong TvT


I mean Innos TvT in general isn't bad. His alltime TvT against koreans is at 65.11% (293/450), that's pretty good
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
June 12 2017 16:43 GMT
#2509
On June 12 2017 11:59 pvsnp wrote:
Ran across this helpful guide to interpreting INnoVation's many and varied emotional states:

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


It would be funnier if it was 9 different pictures of INnoVation with the same expression.
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AzAlexZ
Profile Joined September 2016
Australia3303 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-13 04:48:33
June 13 2017 03:57 GMT
#2510
On June 13 2017 01:43 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2017 11:59 pvsnp wrote:
Ran across this helpful guide to interpreting INnoVation's many and varied emotional states:

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


It would be funnier if it was 9 different pictures of INnoVation with the same expression.

LOL
Faker is the GOAT!
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
June 13 2017 05:07 GMT
#2511
On June 12 2017 12:41 The_Red_Viper wrote:
More importantly though, is Innovation on the edge to become the GOAT :O


He's #3 in my books. Getting closer to overtaking Mvp.

Life still holds a big lead over him at #1. Even with another starleague win, I think I'd still rank Life ahead.
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-13 05:14:42
June 13 2017 05:13 GMT
#2512
On June 13 2017 14:07 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2017 12:41 The_Red_Viper wrote:
More importantly though, is Innovation on the edge to become the GOAT :O


He's #3 in my books. Getting closer to overtaking Mvp.

Life still holds a big lead over him at #1. Even with another starleague win, I think I'd still rank Life ahead.

It all depends on how much you value Starleagues relative to weekend tournaments. Personally, I treat Starleague trophies as the gold standard and weekend tournaments as tiebreakers, but obviously other people weight each differently.

Still, if Inno wins another Starleague he will have won more than anyone else and that's a very compelling argument for GOAT, at least to me.
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`dunedain
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
657 Posts
June 13 2017 07:33 GMT
#2513
Lol no way is life higher ranked than Mvp, you must be losing your mind to consider him GOAT.

Inno on the other hand is steadily making his way up the charts. Yes, he may be #3, just under Life and Mvp.

But that's the GOAT list right now.

GOAT:
1. Mvp (Bonjwa)
2. Life (Forever behind Mvp. Not to mention the tarnished legacy he left behind.)
3. Innovation (Still currently playing and wrecking fools. One day could be the greatest.)
"In order to be created, a work of art must first make use of the dark forces of the soul." ~Albert Camus
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
June 13 2017 07:47 GMT
#2514
Honest question, is Inno's lategame that good right now? I know he only plays whatever is good in the meta (which has never been lategame terran), but I can't remember a single map of his going late this year
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16090 Posts
June 13 2017 09:54 GMT
#2515
On June 13 2017 16:33 `dunedain wrote:
Lol no way is life higher ranked than Mvp, you must be losing your mind to consider him GOAT.

Inno on the other hand is steadily making his way up the charts. Yes, he may be #3, just under Life and Mvp.

But that's the GOAT list right now.

GOAT:
1. Mvp (Bonjwa)
2. Life (Forever behind Mvp. Not to mention the tarnished legacy he left behind.)
3. Innovation (Still currently playing and wrecking fools. One day could be the greatest.)

It's completely ridicolous saying Mvp is the Goat. The only reason people do that is because they don't want to realize a matchfixer is the greatest player to ever play the game.
Mvp played when the scene was much less competitive in an extremely terran favored meta and still he has less premier tournament wins than Life.
The ONLY thing that speaks in Mvps favor is that he has one more GSL title but how much does that really count when you just have to be good at 1 matchup to win a GSL.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
ZertoN
Profile Joined February 2014
Germany214 Posts
June 13 2017 09:59 GMT
#2516
there are still a lot of tournaments left this year for INno, i think he will at least win 1 of them and then become the uncontested GOAT.
"I don't like games that i need to think a lot, i am not interested in those games." - TaeJa, 2016
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16090 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-13 10:05:28
June 13 2017 10:03 GMT
#2517
On June 13 2017 16:33 `dunedain wrote:
Lol no way is life higher ranked than Mvp, you must be losing your mind to consider him GOAT.

Inno on the other hand is steadily making his way up the charts. Yes, he may be #3, just under Life and Mvp.

But that's the GOAT list right now.

GOAT:
1. Mvp (Bonjwa)
2. Life (Forever behind Mvp. Not to mention the tarnished legacy he left behind.)
3. Innovation (Still currently playing and wrecking fools. One day could be the greatest.)

It's completely ridicolous saying Mvp is the Goat. The only reason people do that is because they don't want to realize a matchfixer is the greatest player to ever play the game.
Mvp played when the scene was much less competitive in an extremely terran favored meta and still he has less premier tournament wins than Life.
The ONLY thing that speaks in Mvps favor is that he has one more GSL title but how much does that really count when you just have to be good at 1 matchup to win a GSL

Inno is probably above Mvp already as well as Zest and sOs..
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
June 13 2017 11:43 GMT
#2518
On June 13 2017 16:33 `dunedain wrote:
Lol no way is life higher ranked than Mvp, you must be losing your mind to consider him GOAT.

Inno on the other hand is steadily making his way up the charts. Yes, he may be #3, just under Life and Mvp.

But that's the GOAT list right now.

GOAT:
1. Mvp (Bonjwa)
2. Life (Forever behind Mvp. Not to mention the tarnished legacy he left behind.)
3. Innovation (Still currently playing and wrecking fools. One day could be the greatest.)


Don't want to derail the fanclub too much but...

Ignoring his shame as a matchfixer, Life has #1 locked up. I judge in descending order on the criteria of:

Tournament Results (Slight edge to Life, even though Mvp has more starleague finalist appearances and wins)
Consistency (Mvp wins)
Longevity of Relevance (Life wins big)
Innovation (Tough one, but I give Life the edge)
Peak Performances (Life wins for his second peak)

while also taking into account: balance, external factors (such as Mvp's wrists), and difficulty of each run with respect to the era (not taking into account general level of play of each era).

Prior to 2015, I'd of went with Mvp. However, Life's second peak really was miraculous. The fact that he was so dominant in every matchup without being assisted by a Zerg-favored meta is pretty crazy.
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
June 13 2017 12:13 GMT
#2519
A 0-2 loss to jjakj in Olimoleague, his TvT is just pathetic now
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DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
June 13 2017 12:45 GMT
#2520
He should give a shot to mech at this point
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