Well, yes, but - who won GSL from their first try/ couple of tries? I mean it's supposed to be, like, insanely hard. It's supposed to take a lot of tries, which she goes through now.

I dunno. I don't see the GSL attempts as worthless. She's ambitious and aims high.

Meepman

Canada610 Posts

April 20 2017 19:08 GMT

#12642

Congrats... by questioning Scarlett's passion (lol?) you've invalidated everything you say.

Vutalisk

United States680 Posts

April 20 2017 20:35 GMT

#12643

No one questions Scarlett's passion but someone tried to point out that hunting for WCS points is not as important as "passion" or whatever that even means. Well, I guess you can tell that to Blizzard so they can get rid of WCS altogether because why bother with the points when passion is the only thing matters, right?

No one wins GSL first try but no one competes at GSL only and skipping everything else unless they are not allowed to. No one wants to be one hit wonder like Seed or JJAJKI either. Winning something is always better than winning nothing. Limiting yourself to one single event is rather tunnel vision. Opportunity to compete with many top players (Korean or not) is always helpful. It is not like competing in KR Ladder is the only way you can get better.

I'm gonna stop here because you guys seem to take my concerns as negative stuff. I may as well shut up and let see how things turn out.

blunderfulguy

United States1415 Posts

April 20 2017 20:49 GMT

#12644

"No one questions her passion but points are more important" "no one this no one that" etc. is pretty negative, so, yeah.

icemanadu

New Zealand293 Posts

April 20 2017 21:00 GMT

#12645

Vutalisk guy makes pretty solid points, i totally agree. stop being so defensive

feardragon

United States973 Posts

April 20 2017 21:08 GMT

#12646

I'm pretty sure beyond just practice env, she enjoys living in Korea. Saying, "if you aren't winning, there's no point in being a pro" is a bit silly. Of course you strive to win, but saying she's there's no point in her being a pro b/c she's not chasing wcs points is silly. If your job is the sole factor in your life then maybe but you have to remember they are people too. And nobody appreciates being told they're wasting their life just because they're not doing what you think is best for them.

Especially when you're talking about living in Korea being the bad thing. Or even not going to Austin. I'm sure she'd go if you want to pay for her flight and hotel but if not it's a calculated risk. Not to mention losing practice time during travel. This whole line of reasoning is really frustrating to read.

Blargh

United States2103 Posts

April 20 2017 23:11 GMT

#12647

Personally, I don't value tournament wins unless they either have an exciting storyline to them or they have the very best competition. Korea obviously has the best and most difficult tournament, and if you're truly competitive, you would ONLY aim for that.

I do think it can be bad to expect too much from yourself, but if you ever have the desire to be the best (which is a completely understandable goal for a pro-gamer), you've got to play with the best, and prove yourself against the best.

Plus, prize money isn't the ONLY thing that matters. Not everyone is like Stephano.

pvsnp

7676 Posts

April 20 2017 23:38 GMT

#12648

It's called the Royal Road. Life and Zest come to mind as two who have walked it, there's probably others.
^Winning GSL on your first qualification.

Oh, and Maru walked the royal road for SSL + OSL.

But yeah, it is extremely rare and requires an insane amount of skill + lots of luck. Royal Roaders are about as common as GSL Multichampions, which is to say you can count all the ones still playing on one hand.

Ectar

56 Posts

April 21 2017 02:25 GMT

#12649

@Xtorn: Fruitdealer, Life, Dear, and Zest.

Also, <3s for Scarlett. Always excited to see her play. Wish it happened more often, but that's okay. You do you.

Cascade

Australia5405 Posts

April 21 2017 02:58 GMT

#12650

I don't see how taking strategic decisions on which tournaments you go to conflicts with passion. I don't know which decision is the best one in this situation, Scarlett would know that better, but it's not really related to passion imo.

pvsnp

7676 Posts

April 21 2017 03:08 GMT

#12651

@Xtorn: Fruitdealer, Life, Dear, and Zest.

Also, <3s for Scarlett. Always excited to see her play. Wish it happened more often, but that's okay. You do you.

Fruitdealer doesn't really count even though he technically won on his first qualification, because whomever won would automatically become a Royal Roader and it just so happened to be him.

blunderfulguy

United States1415 Posts

April 21 2017 08:04 GMT

#12652

gasp

That thumbnail, the ferociously bloodthirsty game face of Cloudy's nemesis. Really glad they've gotten to film so much, these get me so amped for GSL. Less than three weeks away!

xtorn

4067 Posts

April 21 2017 09:11 GMT

#12653

On April 21 2017 06:08 feardragon wrote:
And nobody appreciates being told they're wasting their life just because they're not doing what you think is best for them.

This is why I love feardragon, he just MAKES SENSE and is lightyears much better at making a point than I am.

icemanadu

New Zealand293 Posts

April 21 2017 21:02 GMT

#12654

That clip is amazing, thanks guys

Soke

United States790 Posts

April 27 2017 22:25 GMT

#12655

Scarlett played in the filthy NA cup today and won it, going 7-1 overall. 2-1 Zhugeliang, 2-0 lillekanin, 3-0 semper.

Shellshock

United States97277 Posts

April 27 2017 23:31 GMT

#12656

On April 28 2017 07:25 Soke wrote:
Scarlett played in the filthy NA cup today and won it, going 7-1 overall. 2-1 Zhugeliang, 2-0 lillekanin, 3-0 semper.

she also won OSC Master's cup today playing protoss in all the games except the last map of the final