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sneakyfox
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Gosu TY fighting! | ||
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seopthi
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DarkGamer
Germany332 Posts
 i feel like ty was playing the better games. he lost cuz of strategy choices. the proxy play didnt work out.especially the last game was sad. rogue's reaction (the camera showed his face) when he saw the scv's and marines coming, it proves that rogue thought he was dead. his 3 hatch bo was a reaction to thinking ty wouldnt proxy again. turns out that the 3. hatch did win him the game. so kinda lucky on rogues side and unlucky by ty. i ask myself if ty could have killed the 3. hatch as well or if its the counter to a 2rax proxy. if u interpret rogues reaction u may think ty could have killed it too. or rogue didnt know either if its good or bad to have this 3. hatch. would have loved to see serrals zvt tested as well. ty vs serral would have been an epic game. i hope rogue vs serral will be as well as dark vs serral. | ||
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Elentos
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uummpaa
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On November 03 2018 18:46 Elentos wrote: The rough game was game 2. TY kills the natural, sees Rogue is on 1 base and has roach/ling. TY has 2 marines left from his proxy. What does he do? Make a reactor in his wall. Really that probably cost him the series. proxying so many games when he won all the macro games cost him i'd say... | ||
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Elentos
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On November 03 2018 19:05 uummpaa wrote: proxying so many games when he won all the macro games cost him i'd say... The choice is fine. Rogue never expected TY to proxy again in game 5, could have worked out incredibly. It's the execution/follow-ups that don't hold up under scrutiny. | ||
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uummpaa
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On November 03 2018 19:25 Elentos wrote: The choice is fine. Rogue never expected TY to proxy again in game 5, could have worked out incredibly. It's the execution/follow-ups that don't hold up under scrutiny. yeah, sure after he lost two proxys i wouldn't expect that either, he still lost two games that way, while he won the more "standard" games, both rather convincingly i'd say a player with the wit of TY should have realised that during a series and play accordingly, instead of subbornly sticking to his plan (even if it was not a bad plan per se as you said, it still didn't work that day) | ||
Poopi
France13018 Posts
I think he could have checked the third base... checking the main was fine but it wasn't proof of ravager followup. | ||
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sneakyfox
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But yeah, TY definitely seemed like the better player. If only he improved his scouting. I just don't understand why it isn't a bigger priority for him. Rogue beat him in a game at IEM Katowice (iirc on Neon Violet Square) in almost the exact same fashion as game 5. TY did an okay proxy and should have been far ahead, but he never checked to see if Rogue took the third and thus misread the game and lost it in the end. And that's not even mentioning that insanse streak of dying to unscouted shitty ravager builds. TY is so good at reading a game and understanding how to handle it, but that is only possible if you have the good intel. If there is one thing he could learn from Serral that would be it. On November 03 2018 19:25 Elentos wrote: The choice is fine. Rogue never expected TY to proxy again in game 5, could have worked out incredibly. It's the execution/follow-ups that don't hold up under scrutiny. The one I don't understand is game 3. Why not go back to what worked since the proxy failed in game 2? He wasn't exactly lucky either... Rogue with the early pool on both of TY's proxy-builds. | ||
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sneakyfox
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He could have TvT'ed his way to the finals | ||
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Elentos
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 I think TY is already preparing for the new patch a lot. The builds he has been using in online cups on the new patch have looked well thought out (despite not all of them working), Special also asked him to play on the new patch on his stream before and TY agreed. So hopefully TY will do better in the 2nd qualifier in 2 weeks. | ||
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sneakyfox
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 I didn't know that the online cups already switched to the new patch. And really interesting that they play the second qualifier on that too. Looking forward to that. | ||
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Elentos
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Also the new patch goes live next week and the next Korean qualifier for WESG is in 2 weeks. All the online cups in Korea have switched to the new patch already. It's actually a tad bizarre WESG isn't played on the new patch considering that timing I think. | ||
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sneakyfox
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I really hope TY makes it through the second qualifier, even if the odds of becoming that single player are necessarily low. Think it would be very good for him to go there again. He should safely make the semi's at least (baring shitty luck in the draw) if he plays somewhere near his level. | ||
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sneakyfox
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sneakyfox
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Yesterday, he played a lot against Stats on stream and lost all but one game which was essentially decided early. It seems that macro games against P are still very hard. TY goes into Raven/ghost/liberator plus bio and even though he controls it very well it doesn't add up. Hard to be optimistic about his chances in WESG. | ||
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Elentos
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He also makes some mistakes that shouldn't be too hard to fix (some really bad engagements). | ||
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sneakyfox
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I guess we will also see what happens with balance changes in the coming months, but for WESG I think it's very unlikely that TY makes it. | ||
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Elentos
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sneakyfox
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On November 23 2018 02:06 Elentos wrote: If he can get another bracket like in the first qualifier where Protoss is dead before he has to play them he can totally make it The 1000 IQ strategy | ||
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