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On January 11 2012 14:13 TTneko wrote:
sorry it's what you get for mucking around on stream all the time for viewership/money. Devote yourself 100% next time if you don't want to be swept in the first round
yup losing against the best protoss in the world and last gsl runner up who has currently the best zvt in the world is really a shame!
sorry Im a MC Fanboy but reading that comment was seriously super stupid. Support all OGS!
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On January 11 2012 14:13 TTneko wrote:
sorry it's what you get for mucking around on stream all the time for viewership/money. Devote yourself 100% next time if you don't want to be swept in the first round
Hahah um. what? Are you butthurt that he gets a lot of viewers or something? lol.
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People tend to forget that IMMvp had lots of issues the first time he came to GSL. He got eliminated pretty easily in the early seasons of GSL, despite having a "strong" BW background. Now, Mvp is rated one of the best players at the moment.
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On January 12 2012 04:59 itsMAHVELbaybee wrote:
People tend to forget that IMMvp had lots of issues the first time he came to GSL. He got eliminated pretty easily in the early seasons of GSL, despite having a "strong" BW background. Now, Mvp is rated one of the best players at the moment.
Ye, he got kicked out by Zenio in his first GSL. He won the next one 
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On January 12 2012 05:06 Lann555 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2012 04:59 itsMAHVELbaybee wrote:
People tend to forget that IMMvp had lots of issues the first time he came to GSL. He got eliminated pretty easily in the early seasons of GSL, despite having a "strong" BW background. Now, Mvp is rated one of the best players at the moment. Ye, he got kicked out by Zenio in his first GSL. He won the next one
Yes ForGG going to win next one! Btw i dont know why people are so butthurt here even Forgg lost he still showed us so nice games! watch out forgg will someday make all the haters shut up
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ForGG you're awesome. Keep on fighting!
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In hindsight I'm actually glad the intense focus and attention is off him now. All the bandwagoners have jumped ship. I'd rather just enjoy his games without all the controversy and overhype. His style is strong and fun to watch, even if it didn't automatically win him Code S first time around.
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On January 12 2012 04:59 itsMAHVELbaybee wrote:
People tend to forget that IMMvp had lots of issues the first time he came to GSL. He got eliminated pretty easily in the early seasons of GSL, despite having a "strong" BW background. Now, Mvp is rated one of the best players at the moment.
You mean THE best.
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Do people not realize that he's not 'mucking' around on stream, he's practicing timings? I mean, he was known for his sick timings in BW and they don't just create themselves? He tries stuff on ladder and tweaks it to see if he can get more out of it. In my opinion this is better practice than how most pros do it (by doing the same thing a million times)
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He has a good shot at making it back into Code S. All he has to do is win 3 Code A Bo3s and he's certainly good enough to do it.
He lost to the best ZvT in the world and the best Protoss in the world, not the worst way to go out.
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On January 13 2012 04:04 Zzoram wrote:
He has a good shot at making it back into Code S. All he has to do is win 3 Code A Bo3s and he's certainly good enough to do it.
He lost to the best ZvT in the world and the best Protoss in the world, not the worst way to go out.
excuse me but since when Leenock has been confirmed for the best ZvT in world? Q_Q
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On January 13 2012 04:41 FiNTer wrote:Show nested quote +On January 13 2012 04:04 Zzoram wrote:
He has a good shot at making it back into Code S. All he has to do is win 3 Code A Bo3s and he's certainly good enough to do it.
He lost to the best ZvT in the world and the best Protoss in the world, not the worst way to go out. excuse me but since when Leenock has been confirmed for the best ZvT in world? Q_Q
Who has shown better ZvT in the last few months?
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On January 13 2012 04:45 Loki57 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 13 2012 04:41 FiNTer wrote:On January 13 2012 04:04 Zzoram wrote:
He has a good shot at making it back into Code S. All he has to do is win 3 Code A Bo3s and he's certainly good enough to do it.
He lost to the best ZvT in the world and the best Protoss in the world, not the worst way to go out. excuse me but since when Leenock has been confirmed for the best ZvT in world? Q_Q Who has shown better ZvT in the last few months?
NesTea if i am correct
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Not bad considering it's only the first of many modern BW pros to follow.
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On January 13 2012 05:07 NexCa wrote:Show nested quote +On January 13 2012 04:45 Loki57 wrote:On January 13 2012 04:41 FiNTer wrote:On January 13 2012 04:04 Zzoram wrote:
He has a good shot at making it back into Code S. All he has to do is win 3 Code A Bo3s and he's certainly good enough to do it.
He lost to the best ZvT in the world and the best Protoss in the world, not the worst way to go out. excuse me but since when Leenock has been confirmed for the best ZvT in world? Q_Q Who has shown better ZvT in the last few months? NesTea if i am correct
Yes and DRG two very high lvl zergs who i would put top before leenock but still forgg losing to leenock is not shame but just dont like people saying without any backup story " well he is the best ZvT player in the world" cuz u really cant say that ^^
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On January 13 2012 05:07 NexCa wrote:Show nested quote +On January 13 2012 04:45 Loki57 wrote:On January 13 2012 04:41 FiNTer wrote:On January 13 2012 04:04 Zzoram wrote:
He has a good shot at making it back into Code S. All he has to do is win 3 Code A Bo3s and he's certainly good enough to do it.
He lost to the best ZvT in the world and the best Protoss in the world, not the worst way to go out. excuse me but since when Leenock has been confirmed for the best ZvT in world? Q_Q Who has shown better ZvT in the last few months? NesTea if i am correct
NesTea's ZvT has been kind of shaky(Well shaky for nesTea..) I honestly think right now Leenock has a touch better ZvT! Even if its not best in the world its easily top 3 ZvT. And ForGG played very, very well against him! He didn't win but he still impressed me a lot with his play in a very tough group!
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amazing games by ForGG, this guy has huge potential. im starting to become a fan
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waiit i got it now!!! he lost because his GSL name was OGS.Fin it should have been ogs.ForGG then he would have won!
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On January 11 2012 14:30 Suvorov wrote:
He lost because he didn't play like he normally does. He tried to go 'passive' which is the clear-cut opposite of his essence. Had he harassed hardcore like he does on his stream, or like he did in Code A...he would have done much better.
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This. I would have loved to see his all ins and various 1 base multifacted timming attacks I've grown fond of on his stream. In general I like players who show constant agression and timing attacks and he was great at it but seemed to wanna play macro terran
ForGG will be back.
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On January 13 2012 12:23 tdt wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2012 14:30 Suvorov wrote:
He lost because he didn't play like he normally does. He tried to go 'passive' which is the clear-cut opposite of his essence. Had he harassed hardcore like he does on his stream, or like he did in Code A...he would have done much better.
=/ This. I would have loved to see his all ins and various 1 base multifacted timming attacks I've grown fond of on his stream. In general I like players who show constant agression and timing attacks and he was great at it but seemed to wanna play macro terran ForGG will be back.
he always changes up from what he does on ladder to mindfuck his opponents, like vs polt when he went mech instead of bio when he had been bioing on ladder. micro/macro game no different. he can do both. the micro is just one aspect he has shown.
but it's obvious that at the moment, his macro game is not good enough to hang with the best. there i said it. but not because he can't macro. it's just because he doesn't know the game well enough to continuously make the right decisions in a long game. it's like chess (comparing starcraft to chess for the nth time) - openings are all preparation, midgames are all talent, endgames are all experience. he has all the talent but not the experience, as evidenced in the first game vs leenock, where he won out of the opening but couldn't capitalize on it, like mvp would if he was playing the same position.
it was sad to see him cry when he got knocked out but it's encouraging to see how much he expects out of himself. not many (at least 'logical') people expected him to royal road the gsl, but it appeared as if he was one of them.
and yes, he will be back
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