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Psyclon
Profile Joined July 2010
Bulgaria2443 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-22 12:21:12
July 22 2012 12:20 GMT
#8841
Thanks, algue, i was just about to go on a rant, but you saved me some time

This topic is just silly. I will not devote any more mental energy to it.
Now I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds!
emis
Profile Joined November 2011
Estonia409 Posts
July 22 2012 12:21 GMT
#8842
On July 22 2012 19:30 Skyline026 wrote:
Please, he is not my saviour!

Keep racism out of esports, thank you.


On July 22 2012 20:05 Oroboros wrote:
i dont like stephano thinking in racial categories, as if the koreans are just a mass and not actual individuals he is playing against. stephano gotta be careful with what he says.


WAT DA ACTUAL FUCK are you guys talking about O_o
revel8
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom3022 Posts
July 22 2012 12:22 GMT
#8843
On July 22 2012 20:46 Oroboros wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2012 20:37 Psyclon wrote:
Koreans vs Foreigners has been one of the main topics in this community for as long as SC2 has existed.
Stephano has been the last foreigner amongst Koreans in a lot of tournaments so far.
Saying that "it's me vs them again" is racist makes as much sense as saying that vegetables are bad for you, i.e. NONE.


dude learn reading. no one here said that this is racist. stop shoving words in my mouth. i said its problematic and im gonna stick with it.

the slogan "koreans vs foreigners" does not bring the individual level in. stephano did and i questioned wheter he would have written "them" if the others were foreigners.

the koreans dont play as an anonymous mass. the play for themselves.



Not sure why your only posts in Stephano's fanclub is to bash the player for an innocuous tweet. Are you trolling or what?

It is accepted that one of the main narrative's in SC2 is Koreans vs Foreigners. And it seems most of the time it comes down to Stephano being the last Foreigner remaining in a tournament against just Korean players. Stephano made reference to that fact, as it is again the case for this MLG Summer Arena.

Are you new to SC2? Do you not understand that the term 'foreigners' is interchangeable with the term 'non-Koreans' when talking in SC2 terms? Do you object to the practice of this terminology in general? If so start a thread instead of complaining here about such a trite comment by Stephano.
Rhaegar_tar
Profile Joined February 2012
France847 Posts
July 22 2012 12:27 GMT
#8844
On July 22 2012 20:24 Oroboros wrote:
what would stephano have written, if only foreigners were left? would he have written the same? i dont think so. he would have written: only me, idra, sheth and naniwa now.

i dont wanna overstress this. just saying its problematic, when the individual players vanish behind their nationality.


You're pretty stupid, the moment you started saying that Idra, Sheth, Stephano, Naniwa are considered "foreigners", you were in the same mindset as Stephano's, which is Korea vs Rest of the world, as it has been the case for about 10 years in SC.
revel8
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom3022 Posts
July 22 2012 12:27 GMT
#8845
Anyway, good luck to Stephano in today's MLG games. It is almost like yesterday, awaiting his time to go and play Oz. Except a day later, he has already lost to Oz and then gone on to defeat Ryung and Hero. At least this time he gets a chance to get revenge on Oz. The protoss player played an impressive series against Stephano, especially game 3. We will see what Stephano can do this time and whether he can overturn the deficit.

Stephano Kombat!
nymfaw
Profile Joined November 2010
Norway430 Posts
July 22 2012 12:29 GMT
#8846
On July 22 2012 20:24 Oroboros wrote:
what would stephano have written, if only foreigners were left? would he have written the same? i dont think so. he would have written: only me, idra, sheth and naniwa now.

i dont wanna overstress this. just saying its problematic, when the individual players vanish behind their nationality.


No, it isnt problematic. the only racist here is you


GOGO STEPHANO
Everything will be ok in the end. if it's not ok, its not the end.
MBH
Profile Joined January 2011
Ireland796 Posts
July 22 2012 12:33 GMT
#8847
It's a cool storyline, whats not to like about it. Its not as if Steph actually dislikes every Korean.
Sardarius
Profile Joined May 2012
France2 Posts
July 22 2012 12:45 GMT
#8848
On July 22 2012 20:24 Oroboros wrote:
just saying its problematic, when the individual players vanish behind their nationality.


Made me laugh... It's exactly the case in every sports man, i do support the french team not because of players, but because i'm french, and it doesn't make me a ''racist'' for every other country.

GOGO STEPHANO !
remodemo
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany120 Posts
July 22 2012 13:09 GMT
#8849
I myself am a very tolerant person. And I often get angry when I encounter racism - like the mosque controversy in Switzerland. Context: swiss government passed a law that forbids muslims to create new mosques with minarets (towers) in Switzerland. Known as the minerat ban.

But what you children are getting upset about is just ridiculous. Language barrier, server separation, cultural differences and especially years and years of korean dominance in competitions formed this way of thinking. There is Korean starcraft players and there is the rest.
it is absolutely normal of stephano to refer to them the way he did. in addition we should not forget that he is in a tournament mind set at the moment. they are basically all enemies at the moment.

so to sum it up; there was no racism here. and the fact that you get rattled even a little bit by that comment a) surprises me and b) makes me very happy for you. because you must have a hell of a nice and easy life if shit like that gets on your radar.
don't get your panties in a bunch.
MBH
Profile Joined January 2011
Ireland796 Posts
July 22 2012 13:31 GMT
#8850
Lets be objective though, it was like two people who came up with such interesting views.
Kuni
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Austria765 Posts
July 22 2012 13:39 GMT
#8851
There's always that one guy at a party who sits in a corner with his warm beer being angry because all the other people are all over the place having fun.
bonus vir semper tiro
Skyline026
Profile Joined September 2011
Netherlands1129 Posts
July 22 2012 14:06 GMT
#8852
I shouldnt have posted that in his fanclub.

Cant expect thought and reason when fanboyism is involved. My apologies.
Liquid'Ret - Mana - Liquid'Dota fighting!
a3den
Profile Joined April 2012
704 Posts
July 22 2012 14:20 GMT
#8853
On July 22 2012 23:06 Skyline026 wrote:
I shouldnt have posted that in his fanclub.

Cant expect thought and reason when fanboyism is involved. My apologies.


It has nothing to do with fanboyism, and everything with you having no decent or logical argument, as everyone just explained to you.
quirinus
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Croatia2489 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-22 14:24:26
July 22 2012 14:23 GMT
#8854
On July 22 2012 23:06 Skyline026 wrote:
I shouldnt have posted that in his fanclub.

Cant expect thought and reason when fanboyism is involved. My apologies.


...really classy. You make a somewhat valid point, but you're sidestepping everything else. It's just the storyline of Kor vs non-Kor and other things, as remodemo nicely explained. You gotta skate.
All candles lit within him, and there was purity. | First auto-promoted BW LP editor.
Skyline026
Profile Joined September 2011
Netherlands1129 Posts
July 22 2012 14:24 GMT
#8855
On July 22 2012 23:20 a3den wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2012 23:06 Skyline026 wrote:
I shouldnt have posted that in his fanclub.

Cant expect thought and reason when fanboyism is involved. My apologies.


It has nothing to do with fanboyism, and everything with you having no decent or logical argument, as everyone just explained to you.



Like i said, i shouldnt have brought it up.
For the sake of not getting banned again, ill stick to the above statement.
Liquid'Ret - Mana - Liquid'Dota fighting!
emis
Profile Joined November 2011
Estonia409 Posts
July 22 2012 14:24 GMT
#8856
On July 22 2012 23:06 Skyline026 wrote:
I shouldnt have posted that in his fanclub.

Cant expect thought and reason when fanboyism is involved. My apologies.


Don't push it even further. Everyone here genuinely thinks that the tweet was in no way racist.
Isualin
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1903 Posts
July 22 2012 14:26 GMT
#8857
thats absolutely normal. we call everyone except koreans "foreigners" that was the case for last 10 years i guess
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Psyclon
Profile Joined July 2010
Bulgaria2443 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-22 14:31:20
July 22 2012 14:30 GMT
#8858
@dApollo1337
Once again, Stephano vs the Koreans!! EVERY1 BRING THE FRENCH FLAGS

I guess this means that Apollo is a racist, too.
Now I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds!
LoPiLoP
Profile Joined October 2011
France39 Posts
July 22 2012 14:41 GMT
#8859
Korean dominance in starcraft looks like Russian hegemony in chess for last 50 years, now world chess champion is Indian and the number one Elo rank is a Norwegian.
Dandy_Moustachu
Profile Joined July 2010
France422 Posts
July 22 2012 14:42 GMT
#8860
On July 22 2012 23:30 Psyclon wrote:
@dApollo1337
Once again, Stephano vs the Koreans!! EVERY1 BRING THE FRENCH FLAGS

I guess this means that Apollo is a racist, too.


Every one refering to non-korean as foreigner is racist too ^^
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