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On November 20 2011 10:38 Eshra wrote:
Wowowow, are you implying that protoss actually need to be nerfed ? Seriously ? MVP made 3 bunkers, that's what you call being " perfectly prepared " ?
You guys really can't admit anything else than " o god toss imba !!! " ?
i believe he had more than 3 bunkers, and for one bunkers take so long to build and bunkers are useless if they can't be repaired anyway so you might as well just gg since your defense is practically useless
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Anyway, this is not the place to go through a balance discussion. You obviously are blind to any mistakes MVP could do. Have fun.
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On November 20 2011 10:41 Eshra wrote:
Anyway, this is not the place to go through a balance discussion. You obviously are blind to any mistakes MVP could do. Have fun.
Regardless, It just seems to me like after the recent patches, Protoss has a leg up on Terran, past MLG was PvP finals, and it's likely that Providence will also follow suit. Whenever Protoss get an advantage, they say it's balanced, then when it's actually balanced, Protoss is "broken". But things will hopefully be fixed soon anyways, and MvP will persist regardless, overcoming any imbalances in his wake, so I'm still a happy chappy.
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I can't see Mvp winning this tournament, or even getting in the prize money with such a tough draw tomorrow and so many protoss players still remaining, which makes me sad  . Hopefully he can prove me wrong with a heroic run, but it doesn't look good.
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I honestly hope MVP practies his TvP, its the only thing keeping him from crushing everyone.
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On November 20 2011 16:37 hysterial wrote:
I honestly hope MVP practies his TvP, its the only thing keeping him from crushing everyone.
He doesn't usually have to since he never faces P in GSL, and the matchup evolves on a day to day basis making it a bit odd...... but I'm sure he can do it... he's just giving everyone a head start so that it's not too easy for him.
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Mvp seems to be the comeback king lately so I would not count him out. Making it past Hero may be tough though. I think the fact that there are pretty much no Ps in the GSL may have caused Mvp to get away with neglecting that match up more than he should have.
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On November 20 2011 15:21 Mental Union wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2011 10:41 Eshra wrote:
Anyway, this is not the place to go through a balance discussion. You obviously are blind to any mistakes MVP could do. Have fun. Regardless, It just seems to me like after the recent patches, Protoss has a leg up on Terran, past MLG was PvP finals, and it's likely that Providence will also follow suit. Whenever Protoss get an advantage, they say it's balanced, then when it's actually balanced, Protoss is "broken". But things will hopefully be fixed soon anyways, and MvP will persist regardless, overcoming any imbalances in his wake, so I'm still a happy chappy.
What about Terran whining about balance whenever they lose OR even win ? " Oh god, he won despite the balance issue, he's such a beast ".
" Oh, he lost, toss is so op right now "
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MVP is the best player in the world.But his TvP is suffering compared to his TvT and TvZ which both are on bonjwa level.
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It's not that his TvP is suffering lol.
ThorZain lost to Bling in UK, GanZi lost to Gatored a 36-35 PvT international TLPD protoss, Mvp who has the best mechanics out of any sc2 player and has won 3 GSL and finished first in a lot of smaller tournaments, lost to NaNiwa (who is a very good and hard working protoss but not as the same level of Mvp no matter what) and MC the guy carried by his all-ins. PuMa & Keen losing to HeRo (he is good but he was code B forever whereas Keen was on another level).
Do you really think that these players "didn't practice TvP"? They know they will have a lot of protoss to face, and since even Taeja who won like almost every ESV korean weekly says it's hard to TvP, they probably all know the issue.
I don't think that the TvT metagame evolved that much, except the new shiny marauder proxy build the TvT, thus even if they (code S terrans including Mvp) have/had a shitton of TvT they were not only practicing tvt.
When you see the best terran in the world losing against inferior players, hopes start going away.
Anyways I'm sure that he will find a way to win his future TvP, there are a lot of amazing terrans in MLG right now so they can brainstorm and maybe find a temporary solution
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Every player has to lose from time to time. Don't be ridiculous. That's amazing, you, terran players, have been crying since the very beginning of StarCraft 2. Is it so hard to admit that a really good terran can actually lose to a protoss/zerg who played well ?...
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On November 20 2011 22:13 Eshra wrote:
Every player has to lose from time to time. Don't be ridiculous. That's amazing, you, terran players, have been crying since the very beginning of StarCraft 2.
my god would you get the fuck out of this fanclub already.
It's a fanclub for the figurehead of the Terran race in sc2, what do you expect people to be saying.
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On November 20 2011 22:16 Asha` wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2011 22:13 Eshra wrote:
Every player has to lose from time to time. Don't be ridiculous. That's amazing, you, terran players, have been crying since the very beginning of StarCraft 2. my god would you get the fuck out of this fanclub already. It's a fanclub for the figurehead of the Terran race in sc2, what do you expect people to be saying.
Oh oh, it's a fanclub, so i have to expect everybody to be silly ? Damn, thanks for the tip. I expect people to be at least somewhat smart with a player they are supposed to know well since they joined his fanclub. 
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On November 20 2011 22:13 Eshra wrote:
Every player has to lose from time to time. Don't be ridiculous. That's amazing, you, terran players, have been crying since the very beginning of StarCraft 2. Is it so hard to admit that a really good terran can actually lose to a protoss/zerg who played well ?...
Yeah, totally man.
Remind me again which race has a fucking fanclub for whining about imbalance again?
Whatever, MVP still best player in the world, Shame he did not expect that he needed more then 4 bunkers(lol).
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On November 20 2011 22:13 Eshra wrote:
Every player has to lose from time to time. Don't be ridiculous. That's amazing, you, terran players, have been crying since the very beginning of StarCraft 2. Is it so hard to admit that a really good terran can actually lose to a protoss/zerg who played well ?...
Yeah, that's us terrans who have a "sad marine fanclub"! Oh wait...
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So what ? That doesn't change the fact that you've been crying. :/ You're just being childish there.
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On November 20 2011 22:20 Eshra wrote:
So what ? That doesn't change the fact that you've been crying. :/ You're just being childish there.
What has that to do with this thread again?
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Talking about MVP loss in an MVP fan club ?
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You are talking about Terran players whining in the MVP fanclub, speaks to your intelligence.
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That's how discussion goes pal. Bouncing from one topic to another.
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