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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
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xAshCanaaNx
Philippines150 Posts
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SmoKim
Denmark10305 Posts
On May 24 2012 06:21 rysecake wrote: Being a bonjwa is not just being at the top consistently. It's being an absolute monster over a period of time to the point where other progamers cry if they have to play you. Jaedong is not a bonjwa, why? The guy was never dominant enough. He fought in an era where Bisu and Flash were just as good as he was. Now take a look at savior, the original bonjwa. In his era, particularly 2006, the guy had something like an 80% win rate. He had no equals, only victims. Imagine every single game he was in being a forgone conclusion for over a year. EVERY SINGLE GAME/SERIES you knew he was gonna win, why even bother watching right? Savior came before my time, but I've had a friend put it in perspective for me. Just imagine Nestea back when he was unstoppable zvz, when every zvz of his you knew was gonna be an auto win for him. Now multiply that aura by 3, and add it to his zvt and zvp as well, that's saviors dominance. While jaedong has surpassed savior in everyway possible, in every stat possible, he has not surpassed that aura of dominance. Mvp, while being the best in sc2 history so far, has not had that aura of "shit...well this games over" half a year before that game is even played. mvp is my favorite sc2 player by far, but he's not a bonjwa, he's simply the best player in sc2. Simple answer is...you will know when mvp is a bonjwa when you don't have to ask whether you can call him one or not. When he develops that aura you will know. This is easily the best description of "Bonjwa" i've read on TL so far. Hell it could be a "sticky" in itself. Now i know were to refer to when the subject comes up (let's be honest, it will always be a dicussion-issue) Thank you for the informative post rysecake ![]() | ||
Tauscond
United States181 Posts
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shadowy
Bulgaria305 Posts
I have always been kinda reserved towards Terrans, but MVP won me long time ago. His game understanding is match to no one. | ||
bittman
Australia8759 Posts
On May 25 2012 01:31 Tauscond wrote: Maybe we should "invent" a new word for SC2 players Meh. You can invent words, or we can just call MVP the best player in sc2 history thus far. Lots of words there unfortunately. Can also call him reigning Blizzcon champ, reigning WCG champ, 4 time GSL champ, highest money earner, best player of 2011, etc. Or, as people have said, he can just be his namesake. MVP: the MVP. | ||
Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
On May 25 2012 09:02 bittman wrote: Meh. You can invent words, or we can just call MVP the best player in sc2 history thus far. Lots of words there unfortunately. Can also call him reigning Blizzcon champ, reigning WCG champ, 4 time GSL champ, highest money earner, best player of 2011, etc. Or, as people have said, he can just be his namesake. MVP: the MVP. I prefer King Mvp, that's what he wants to be called. His team even made that banner " return of the king " for the finals. | ||
fer
Canada375 Posts
On May 24 2012 06:21 rysecake wrote: Being a bonjwa is not just being at the top consistently. It's being an absolute monster over a period of time to the point where other progamers cry if they have to play you. Jaedong is not a bonjwa, why? The guy was never dominant enough. He fought in an era where Bisu and Flash were just as good as he was. Now take a look at savior, the original bonjwa. In his era, particularly 2006, the guy had something like an 80% win rate. He had no equals, only victims. Imagine every single game he was in being a forgone conclusion for over a year. EVERY SINGLE GAME/SERIES you knew he was gonna win, why even bother watching right? Savior came before my time, but I've had a friend put it in perspective for me. Just imagine Nestea back when he was unstoppable zvz, when every zvz of his you knew was gonna be an auto win for him. Now multiply that aura by 3, and add it to his zvt and zvp as well, that's saviors dominance. While jaedong has surpassed savior in everyway possible, in every stat possible, he has not surpassed that aura of dominance. Mvp, while being the best in sc2 history so far, has not had that aura of "shit...well this games over" half a year before that game is even played. mvp is my favorite sc2 player by far, but he's not a bonjwa, he's simply the best player in sc2. Simple answer is...you will know when mvp is a bonjwa when you don't have to ask whether you can call him one or not. When he develops that aura you will know. I never ask before I call him bonjwa. | ||
rysecake
United States2632 Posts
Well then he can be a bonjwa for you =) | ||
S_SienZ
1878 Posts
First progamer ever to win a 1v2 on GSL OTR !!! | ||
Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
On May 25 2012 14:35 S_SienZ wrote: Such a badass. First progamer ever to win a 1v2 on GSL OTR !!! Mvp setting records in GSL trophies and GOM shows! For anyone who missed it, the VOD will be free to watch in 3 days. If you have a premium subscription to GOM you can watch it right away. | ||
S8on
United States11 Posts
sign me up btw I lol'd | ||
McFeser
United States2458 Posts
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ZeroSC2
Korea (South)668 Posts
5th Title incoming. What you gonna do, Flash? | ||
Popkiller
3415 Posts
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redviper
Pakistan2333 Posts
On May 26 2012 07:26 Popkiller wrote: damn. GSL Ro32 is the 11th... I wish MVP could come to Anaheim. Might not be good for him. He needs to really rest and practice on a schedule that lets him heal his wrists. edit: I am sad that MVP's blood type is A. Now I can never donate blood to him ![]() | ||
rysecake
United States2632 Posts
On May 26 2012 06:59 ZeroSC2 wrote: The Terran King in SC2~ 5th Title incoming. What you gonna do, Flash? From the unimpressed flash meme thread in bw section. I found it hilarious haha http://i.imgur.com/wj1oo.jpg | ||
zyzq
United States3123 Posts
On May 26 2012 07:28 redviper wrote: Might not be good for him. He needs to really rest and practice on a schedule that lets him heal his wrists. edit: I am sad that MVP's blood type is A. Now I can never donate blood to him ![]() He said he will go to any tournament that invites him. And take their money. ![]() | ||
Ace1123
Philippines1187 Posts
On May 25 2012 14:37 Dodgin wrote: Mvp setting records in GSL trophies and GOM shows! For anyone who missed it, the VOD will be free to watch in 3 days. If you have a premium subscription to GOM you can watch it right away. Mvp So Good! Also the one where He had no KB and at 90% Handicap. But I think if it was a masters player he could lose | ||
`dunedain
655 Posts
Mvp really is the Final Boss! Sooo so so good. Hopefully he takes some time to get his discs fixed. Gogogo Mvp, champion of Starcraft 2! | ||
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