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Fizzy
Sweden388 Posts
On October 17 2013 21:29 LakseWim wrote: If it turns out revival is tied wiht naniwa I hope Blizzard doed the right thing and chooses naniwa over revival for the obvious reasons N comming before R in the alphabet? I think this would be a good reason. | ||
Darkhorse
United States23455 Posts
On October 17 2013 21:29 LakseWim wrote: If it turns out revival is tied wiht naniwa I hope Blizzard doed the right thing and chooses naniwa over revival for the obvious reasons I hope they do the actual right thing and have them play a bo5 or something. | ||
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Waterflow
Sweden1550 Posts
On October 17 2013 23:03 Darkhoarse wrote: I hope they do the actual right thing and have them play a bo5 or something. Yeah I agree with that. With NaNiwa hopefully winning ofcourse! | ||
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Facultyadjutant
Sweden1876 Posts
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Doublemint
Austria8633 Posts
On October 18 2013 00:56 Facultyadjutant wrote: How good is revival zvp? At IEM NY, Revival won 2:1 against HuK and lost to San and sOs. So definitely beatable for Nani in case something like a Bo5 for the Blizzcon spot would occur. | ||
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Fizzy
Sweden388 Posts
Players: Revival soO Vortix Dear Trap Genius And top 6 out of the following from WCS NA: Jaedong Hero Polt Oz MacSed Heart Hack Byul So first lets look at whom might advance from WCS NA: There are no brackets drawn yet so we dont know who faces who, so this will only be speculation of whom i think are the best 6 players. Namely: Jaedong, Hero, Polt, Macsed, Oz, Hack That brings our total list to: Revival (At 3175 points. Can only make it to being tied, dont know what happens at a tie) soO (At 2300 points) Vortix (At 2150 points) Dear (At 1750 points) Trap (At 1450 points) Genius (At 1300 points) Macsed (At 1200 points) Oz (At 1600 points) Hack (At 700 points) So what is required for these players to get more points than Naniwa? soO needs atleast 901 points, and can gain this by either winning the WCS Kr finals tomorrow and then placing top 8 at Season Finals OR by placing top 4 at the Season Finals. Vortix needs atleast 1051 points, and can gain this by placing top 4 at the Season Finals. Dear needs atleast 1451 points, and can gain this by either winning the WCS Kr finals tomorrow and then placing top 4 at Season Finals OR by placing top 2 at the Season Finals. Trap needs atleast 1751 points, and can gain this by winning the Season Finals. Genius needs atleast 1901 points and can gain this by winning the Season Finals. Macsed needs atleast 2001 points and can gain this by either winning WCS NA and then placing top 4 at Season Finals OR by placing 2nd-4th at WCS NA and then placing top top 2 at Season Finals OR by placing 5th-6th at WCS NA and winning the Season Finals. Oz needs atleast 1601 points and can gain this by either winning WCS NA and then placing top 4 at Season Finals OR by placing 2nd-4th at WCS NA and then placing 2nd at Season Finals OR by placing 5th-6th at WCS NA and then winning the Season Finals. Hack needs atleast 2501 points and can gain this by winning WCS NA and then winning the Season Finals. If revival doesnt place top 2 in his Challenger League group, then 2 of the above needs to happen. In case of a tiebreaker and Naniwa loses and is below Revival, then only 1 of the above needs to happen. So, which of these are remotely possible? Never count out the WCS Korea finalists.. both Dear and soO have a chanse to go far at the Season Finals since they both were good enough to reach the finals of the GSL. The rest of them would need huge upsets to gain more points than Naniwa. What should i pray for when i got to sleep at night? That Revival does not finish top 2 in his group and that Dear wins WCS Kr tomorrow. This would make Naniwas chances of staying in the top 16... very good  Edit: Words.. spelling... huh? | ||
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ffadicted
United States3545 Posts
On October 18 2013 18:43 Fizzy wrote: Dear needs atleast 1451 points, and can gain this by either winning the WCS Kr finals tomorrow and then placing top 4 at Season Finals OR by placing top 2 at the Season Finals. Very Likely soO needs atleast 901 points, and can gain this by either winning the WCS Kr finals tomorrow and then placing top 8 at Season Finals OR by placing top 4 at the Season Finals. Very Likely Trap needs atleast 1751 points, and can gain this by winning the Season Finals. Unlikely Genius needs atleast 1901 points and can gain this by winning the Season Finals. Very Unlikely Oz needs atleast 1601 points and can gain this by either winning WCS NA and then placing top 4 at Season Finals OR by placing 2nd-4th at WCS NA and then placing 2nd at Season Finals OR by placing 5th-6th at WCS NA and then winning the Season Finals. Very Unlikely Hack needs atleast 2501 points and can gain this by winning WCS NA and then winning the Season Finals. Impossible Macsed needs atleast 2001 points and can gain this by either winning WCS NA and then placing top 4 at Season Finals OR by placing 2nd-4th at WCS NA and then placing top top 2 at Season Finals OR by placing 5th-6th at WCS NA and winning the Season Finals. Impossible Vortix needs atleast 1051 points, and can gain this by placing top 4 at the Season Finals. Impossible lol I'm really scared about soO and Dear tbh. I guess the best think to do is back one up entirely rather then hoping they both fail, so we should cheer for soO in the finals? The Revival tiebreaker also scares me, makes me so pissed that he won those IEM points essentially for free. Blizzard should look at that and let naniwa in honestly, but likely it'll be some sort of Bo5 or Revival will find some way to get in from dirty EG esports money (loljk). Plz nani plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz | ||
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dyhr
Sweden6 Posts
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Facultyadjutant
Sweden1876 Posts
It feels like what is unlikely might happen | ||
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ThePlagueJG
Sweden1010 Posts
On October 19 2013 04:56 Facultyadjutant wrote: I have this uncomfortable and egging feeling over VortiX It feels like what is unlikely might happen I have the same feeling, but about soO instead, I think he will go high and mighty in Season finals. VortiX probably wont pass the group stage considering these groups are hard and not like Ro16 Europe and if he do I think maximum top 8. | ||
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ffadicted
United States3545 Posts
On October 19 2013 06:01 ThePlagueJG wrote: I have the same feeling, but about soO instead, I think he will go high and mighty in Season finals. VortiX probably wont pass the group stage considering these groups are hard and not like Ro16 Europe and if he do I think maximum top 8. Like I mentioned before, I think we SHOULD cheer for soO. Let's bank on him passing naniwa for sure, that would make it quite difficult (but not impossible of course) for Dear to also pass him... If Dear wins GSL, it suddenly becomes likely that they both pass naniwa in the seasonal finals, and then we're pooped lol | ||
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Jstare
Sweden43 Posts
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AlgeriaT
Sweden2197 Posts
On October 19 2013 06:28 ffadicted wrote: Like I mentioned before, I think we SHOULD cheer for soO. Let's bank on him passing naniwa for sure, that would make it quite difficult (but not impossible of course) for Dear to also pass him... If Dear wins GSL, it suddenly becomes likely that they both pass naniwa in the seasonal finals, and then we're pooped lol Yup, this makes more sense. If soO loses the GSL finals, he only needs to get 4th place in the Season Finals to beat Nani. If Dear loses the GSL finals, he needs to get 2nd place in the Season Finals. So, better chances for Nani if soO wins. Or am I mistaken? If so, please let me know ASAP.....I gotta know who to root for in these damn GSL finals!!  | ||
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Jstare
Sweden43 Posts
BUT, if Dear wins the chance that one of them passes Naniwa is lower than the chance that SoO passes if SoO wins but the chance that both pass is greater...but remember that Naniwa is not safe if one of them passes (as he has to compete with revival) while he would be safe if none of them pass...so I really don't know if I prefer SoO winning...for some reason my guts tell me to cheer for Dear... | ||
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lookfirewood
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Philozovic
France1677 Posts
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AsaZZang
Germany30 Posts
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Chigge
129 Posts
On October 19 2013 21:39 AsaZZang wrote: sooo what does this mean now ? i think Soo and Dear must place atleast top 4 in the finals to kick Naniwa out. | ||
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Jstare
Sweden43 Posts
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hansonslee
United States2027 Posts
On October 19 2013 21:41 Jstare wrote: yep, they need to place top 4 There's still a good chance for Dear to get into top 4 because his play is very dynamic. Also, soO is pretty solid too. But we'll see what happens. | ||
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